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Evangelicals and the Coulter affair
World Net Daily ^ | August 23, 2010 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 08/23/2010 4:54:09 PM PDT by Sola Veritas

.................I believe that's what Jesus meant when He told us to love our enemies. The ultimate demonstration of love for a Christian should be to evangelize the lost.

There is no indication Ann Coulter has ever used one of her paid speaking engagements to do this. In fact, I'm not even sure a paid speaking engagement is an appropriate forum for evangelizing.

Nevertheless, I have heard from a few Christians who compare Coulter's paid speaking gig to Homocon with Jesus sitting down with tax collectors and sinners.

That is not good discernment.

Coulter is a political activist, a pundit, a satirist. She is not Jesus. And she is not an evangelist. No one is likely to get saved at Homocon because Ann Coulter gives a conservative stump speech.

What will happen as a result of her appearance is that a compromise will be made with sin. Sin will be condoned or appeased. A conservative icon will find accommodation with a sin that would undermine the foundations of Western civilization, the Judeo-Christian ethic and the most basic biblical standards of sexual morality.

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To: muir_redwoods
All depends on what she says to them.

They're stated mission is all "gay" issues, all the time. Not conservative issues, "gay" issues.

Chairman of the Board, Christopher Barron:

"We are a gay organization, we only work on gay issues, we have never claimed otherwise. My God people."

Twitter Aug 4, 2010 http://twitter.com/

41 posted on 08/23/2010 5:58:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. C. S. L)
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To: Ol' Sparky
I doubt it because she was likely speaking to conservative groups within those universities.

Not true. Her speeches at universities are attended by general audiences who aren't part of the school. The school itself is just the setting, until the leftist disruptors show up.

42 posted on 08/23/2010 5:58:35 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Sola Veritas

I’ll be interested to see the text of her speech.

Remember what happened when National Review showed her the door for her piece (written after the death of her friend Barbara Olsen on 911) where she calls for converting our enemies to Christianity. No one really cares what Rich Lowry thinks about anything but everyone remembers what Ann had to say.

Farah runs the same risk. I like Ann and I occasionally read Farah. I don’t have to choose between them fortunately and I won’t. But he didn’t have to make a public deal out of all this, he could have handled it like a friend, with a phone call. And if she didn’t see it his way, it could have been left out of the public eye.


43 posted on 08/23/2010 5:59:03 PM PDT by marron
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To: joelt

No, we shouldn’t shun all sinners, but, to deliver a speech for money at this type of event does undermine the fact that Jesus asked, “what fellowship does light have with darkness?” When Jesus sat down with sinners, he sure didn’t condone their actions nor lend credence to their sinful behavior. He didn’t compromise on his Father’s righteousness, which I believe is what Ann is doing for the sake of money. IMO, her giving this speech is compromising or appeasing our foundational values system. She is saying what they are promoting is ok because, she a conservative agrees to speak at their gathering.


44 posted on 08/23/2010 6:00:53 PM PDT by Catsrus (Have)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Of course it's the same.

No. It's not. Universities are not a group that is insisting on special rights based on a deviant behavior.

I disagree with how he communicated said opinion, not the opinion itself.

I disagree with Coulter calling him a fake Christian. Who is recognizing a deviant group by giving a keynote speech?

Farah has the right to denounce a speech Ann hasn't given yet

Farrah has the right to disagree with a "conservative" that has accepted to appear as the keynote speaker at a homosexual convention and referred to herself as the "Judy Garland of the right".

In case you don't get the reference, homosexuals love Judy Garland.

45 posted on 08/23/2010 6:02:06 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Sola Veritas

I don’t care about Farah and Ann is all about Ann. Always was and always will be. As long as she is being discussed, it’s a happy day for her.

I do consider her a poor example of Christinaity but I suppose we all are who profess belief. I just wish she wouldn’t climb on her high horse and claim people as “false” Christians when her own personal life has been far from godly. And Ann...homosexuality is a sin. Pretty major one. I don’t hate gay people by any means but you can be friends without rationalizing it’s really not so bad...


46 posted on 08/23/2010 6:02:55 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So will the liberals at Homocon denounce her when she slams the unconstitutional “gay” agenda that they promote?

Or will she not denounce their agenda?


47 posted on 08/23/2010 6:03:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. C. S. L)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So what if she took on Liz Cheney and Billy Kristol? That doesn’t maker her decision to speak at this group right. We are to love the sinner, but, not the sin. There has been enough compromise in this country which has served to undermine our belief and values system.

Blow Farah away? Apparently, you don’t know the scriptures very well. While she may resort to some snarky comments, Farrah stands on the scriptures, and therefore, Ann is in a p***ing match with God’s word. We’ll see who wins in that debate.


48 posted on 08/23/2010 6:03:53 PM PDT by Catsrus (Have)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Coulter wields no official power. How is she legitimizing this group?

She is held up a conservative icon. Her appearance gives them legitimacy.

49 posted on 08/23/2010 6:04:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: CitizenUSA

I seriously doubt she is going there to speak to them about the error of their ways. Otherwise, she wouldn’t be invited. They don’t want to hear that. They want to infiltrate the conservative movement in this country. Remember, it was Eve who was first deceived by the serpent, not Adam. He only went along with her.


50 posted on 08/23/2010 6:05:26 PM PDT by Catsrus (Have)
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To: cothrige

What I heard as I read your post was “Yeah. It’s ok to compromise values and morality. Everyone does.”


51 posted on 08/23/2010 6:05:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: cothrige
As for Romney, well I don’t much worry about that. Lots of people picked losers, and there were worse out there than Romney.

I briefly supported Romney myself. After Hunter fell, after Thompson shuffled off, Romney looked like our last chance to stop McCain.

Then he did his little cost-benefit analysis and decided not to fight, which is when I realized that he didn't have the grit to really fight for anything. He wants a coronation.

I figure Ann was making a similar calculation. If she were to come out in favor of Romney now, I'd be very surprised (and disappointed).

52 posted on 08/23/2010 6:06:07 PM PDT by marron
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To: Melas; All

“Homosexuality is in truth a safe sin to pick on because honestly, they’re few in number. We got plenty of fatties though.”

I am quite willing to take on “adultery” and/or “pre-marital or extra marital” heterosexual conduct. It is just as immoral as homosexuality. Read my “Profile” page.

BTW - You should know that while all “sin” has the same “eternal” consequences....not all “sins” in the Bible have the same “temporal” consequences. For instance, not all are considered bad enough to be capital offenses....at least in the Mosaic Law....which shows God’s aborrence of certain practices. Gluttony was NEVER a capital offense...adultery, homosexual acts, other sexual immoralities were.

I am not advocating killing adulterers or homosexuals. However, one that cares about God prespective needs to know that some sins, in this life, are much worse than others.


53 posted on 08/23/2010 6:06:32 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Nosterrex

“I think that Ann is a Roman Catholic”

Her father was. I believe she claims to be Presbyterian.


54 posted on 08/23/2010 6:07:32 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Our freedoms are hanging by a thread and Farah wants to get into a pissing match with another fellow conservative.”

Why not? It is a lot of free publicity and attention.

It does nothing for the cause of conservative governance; but when was that ever the real objective?


55 posted on 08/23/2010 6:09:13 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Nosterrex
I think that Ann is a Roman Catholic, but I am not certain if that is correct.

Ann Coulter is a Presbyterian...don't know which particular denomination. i believe you have her confused with another conservative blond*, Laura Ingraham, who converted to Catholicism.

*For the record, Ingraham is probably not a blond any more. While she was recovering from chemo from her breast cancer, her hair grew in gray. Coulter was more of a "dishwater" blond or possibly 'strawberry blond' when she was teenaged.

56 posted on 08/23/2010 6:09:52 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Catsrus
Remember, it was Eve who was first deceived by the serpent, not Adam. He only went along with her.

Nothing happened until Adam ate the fruit. Eve wasn't given dominion over animals etc. Adam was. Everyone blames Eve but it was Adam who changed everything. People need to read that story carefully. Where does it say Adam wasn't standing there when Eve talked to the serpent?

57 posted on 08/23/2010 6:12:06 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Our freedoms are hanging by a thread and Farah wants to get into a pissing match with another fellow conservative.”

No, Farah sees, as do many of us, that moral issues count. Homosexual behavior is NOT a freedom to protect or side with. That is unacceptable compromise. If Coulter, you, are anyone think that homosexual behavior is OK enough that you will consider them “conservative” as long as they are for lower taxes and free enterprise, etc. is just plain over the top. In the process of making a very few friends in the homosexual ranks for what you call “conservatism”....you are going to lose a great number of persons like myself that won’t tolerate that kind of compromise. A significant part of the base of the GOP.


58 posted on 08/23/2010 6:13:55 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: cothrige

I have to admit, you have a point there. I think Ann will survive this though. She’s a great writer and once she refocuses on what’s important most people will read what she writes and enjoy... unless they’re leftist scum, then they’ll either ignore what she writes or they’ll squirm.

I was a little bit angry at her through this but I’m already getting over it. It’s been kind of cathartic posting here on the subject.

I hope they both kiss and make up.

On the other hand, I absolutely refuse to believe what some people have been saying, that this is somehow going to reflect bad on conservatives or Republicans going into the election.

The is not going to affect the election.


59 posted on 08/23/2010 6:14:36 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Melas

The homosexual movement is challenged because they are a anti-Christian, anti-America, political movement, embracing evil and sin, and promoting it in a movement.


60 posted on 08/23/2010 6:14:53 PM PDT by ansel12
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