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The High Price of the N.F.L.’s Preseason Games
The New York Times ^ | Monday, August 23, 2010 | WILLIAM C. RHODEN

Posted on 08/23/2010 8:00:45 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Brett Favre was sacked in his first preseason game on Sunday. Experts say Favre can skip most of camp and still be ready for the regular season because he knows the system so well.

The National Football League perpetrates two annual frauds: one against the American public, the other against players who give body and blood to make the league a multibillion-dollar enterprise.

The first fraud is preseason football, those empty, glamorized scrimmages that teams force on season-ticket holders as parts of the regular-season package.

The second, more dangerous fraud is training camp, which exposes veteran players to unnecessary risk and perpetuates the myth that football is more complicated than it really is.

The situations of Brett Favre and Eli Manning, Exhibits 1 and 2, make for the most compelling arguments yet for eliminating these colossal wastes of time and resources.

Favre, the N.F.L.’s 40-year-old prince of drama, waltzes into Minnesota Vikings “training camp” three weeks after everyone else and participates in four plays Sunday. Experts say Favre can pull this off because he knows the system so well.

No. Favre can pull this off because a training camp lasting several weeks is not essential. After not practicing with the Vikings until Wednesday, he played one four-play series Sunday night, completing a pass and getting sacked, in a 15-10 loss to the San Francisco 49ers.

Eli Manning did show up for camp. In the Giants’ first preseason game, against the Jets, he took a blind-side shot and needed 12 stitches to close a three-inch gash on his forehead, causing him to miss several days of practice. All because of a meaningless game.

We talk a lot in sports about going for the glory. Where’s the glory in that?

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: favre; nfl
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1 posted on 08/23/2010 8:00:48 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

That photo of Favre getting sacked is a portent of things to come this season.


2 posted on 08/23/2010 8:03:34 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Trent Green went down in a pre-season game back in 1999 or 1998 and he was out for the rest of the season.
True, it did give the Rams Kurt Warner as the starting Quarterback, but Green was never the same after.


3 posted on 08/23/2010 8:05:17 PM PDT by chae (A wooden stake for Edward, a silver axe for Jacob, and then Buffy went home)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The exhibition season used to be 6 games, with a 14 game regular season.

Not everyone is a QB, and not everyone has the mental acumen of a Manning, Favre or Warner. LBs, corners, offensive tackles and receivers also need the time, and not everyone is a ten year veteran.

Most of all, the team starts out with 80 guys, and has to play the original version of Survivor to get down to 45 or so.


4 posted on 08/23/2010 8:05:58 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: rdl6989

“That photo of Favre getting sacked is a portent of things to come this season.”

I hope so too.


5 posted on 08/23/2010 8:07:13 PM PDT by MplsSteve (Don't Be Stupak!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

There is very little relationship between what happens during preseason games and the regular season. /s


6 posted on 08/23/2010 8:07:42 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: MinorityRepublican

This guy doesn’t know football. Camp and preseason aren’t for the Favre’s of the world, they are to gauge who makes the team and who gets cut. And to work out game plans and synchronize efforts. I don’t think you need four preseason games but a preseason is a necessity.


7 posted on 08/23/2010 8:08:11 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: MinorityRepublican

This guy is an idiot and doesn’t understand football at all. Training camps and pre-season games certainly have risks but they also have rewards.


8 posted on 08/23/2010 8:09:23 PM PDT by McBuff
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To: MinorityRepublican

wow. Brett Favre gets sacked one time and WILLIAM C. RHODEN
is ready to cancel preseason football forever.


9 posted on 08/23/2010 8:10:37 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: MinorityRepublican
The first fraud is preseason football, those empty, glamorized scrimmages that teams force on season-ticket holders as parts of the regular-season package.

Even if I was a season ticket holder, I would not care. The NFL season is to short and MLB, NHL, and NBA to long. THEY should have training camps/preseason and only play one game a week!

10 posted on 08/23/2010 8:11:40 PM PDT by OCC
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To: MinorityRepublican
Totally agree! Preseason games should be completely abolished EXCEPT for one game where the two worst teams in each conference of the previous season play a touch-football Hall of Fame game.

Keep the regular season at 16 games, give all teams a bye right after the 8th game so all teams will be on the same level, institute a playoff bye for ALL playoff teams and get rid of the extra week before the Super Bowl.

And, abolish the stupid Pro Bowl game and just post the Pro Bowl players in the media.

11 posted on 08/23/2010 8:11:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What utter tripe.
He’s saying that a team can play as a team without ever having been a team?

HUH?

Beam me up to baseball Spring Training!


12 posted on 08/23/2010 8:12:14 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: MplsSteve

“That photo of Favre getting sacked is a portent of things to come this season

not a chance!!the best quarterback in NFL history and he will continue to be so


13 posted on 08/23/2010 8:12:26 PM PDT by terycarl (sstrations)
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To: circlecity
Camp and preseason aren’t for the Favre’s of the world, they are to gauge who makes the team and who gets cut. And to work out game plans and synchronize efforts.

You can gauge the players and rookies in scrimmages and in camp. This means that they will play extra hard to make the squad.

14 posted on 08/23/2010 8:13:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: McBuff

The NFL LOVES Obama. The NFL refused to sell a team to Rush and his investor group but sold it to a shady Muslim.


15 posted on 08/23/2010 8:13:49 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: TaxPayer2000

I heard that Frank Rich thinks that football players are dreamy!


16 posted on 08/23/2010 8:19:20 PM PDT by Batman11 (Sarah Palin: "Illegal immigrants are called illegal for a reason!")
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To: MinorityRepublican

Pre-season’s are nothing but showcases for the rookies on the squad who are fighting for a permanent spot on the starting lineup. The writer should stick to basket weaving, or whatever it is metrosexuals waste time doing.


17 posted on 08/23/2010 8:24:24 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I think Brett Favre has earned the right to show up at training camp when he damn well pleases.


18 posted on 08/23/2010 8:25:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’ve been boycotting the NFL for several years now

And enjoying my autumnal Sundays alot more as a result I don’t miss it a bit


19 posted on 08/23/2010 8:26:04 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que AP: It's the "GROUND ZERO MOSQUE")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Keep the regular season at 16 games,”

Plans are in the works for an 18 game season, probably next year, plus the pre-season games.


20 posted on 08/23/2010 8:29:57 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (They shall not pass!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think the NFL should play 52-week seasons. Damn wimps!


21 posted on 08/23/2010 8:38:14 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 103 days away from outliving Curly Howard)
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To: Rennes Templar

Sorry but 18 games, that’s way too many. NFL players are already suffering enough from the current schedule.


22 posted on 08/23/2010 8:38:20 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Watching pro sports just isn't fun any more, at least for me. Used to love it.
23 posted on 08/23/2010 8:38:36 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: A_Former_Democrat
I’ve been boycotting the NFL for several years now And enjoying my autumnal Sundays alot more as a result I don’t miss it a bit

Man, that's twisted.

24 posted on 08/23/2010 8:39:04 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: SamAdams76

Soccer is pretty much a year-round sport in World Cup/Euro years. The English Premier League and UEFA Champions League started right back up less than a month after the end of the World Cup, and will go all the way until May.


25 posted on 08/23/2010 8:40:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rdl6989
That photo of Favre getting sacked is a portent of things to come this season.

Unless Peterson realizes Chester isn't around anymore and put's a little effort into blocking it will be.

On the other hand, if teams decide sending everybody after the QB every play is the way to beat Favre, there's going to be a lot of 60 yard slant plays to Berrian, and 80 yard runs from draw plays for Peterson.

26 posted on 08/23/2010 8:43:45 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Dr. Sivana

“and not everyone is a ten year veteran.”

I think the average NFL career is 3 years.


27 posted on 08/23/2010 8:55:33 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Our studies have shown that Bret thinks he's this big. In fact, that doesn't seem to be the case...

28 posted on 08/23/2010 8:57:14 PM PDT by stormer
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’m for a 2 game pre-season. By the time 2 games pass, coaches really know who they want and don’t. The rest is scrimmage. Lengthen the season and make the 2 extra games mean something!


29 posted on 08/23/2010 9:00:22 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: dfwgator

Soccer players cry when they get the slightest bump. By the end of the season many NFL players are having trouble walking the day after a game.


30 posted on 08/23/2010 9:02:36 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Minn

The Steelers certainly need the preseason games to test replacements for Ben Rothlisberger, for when he serves that four game suspension.


31 posted on 08/23/2010 9:06:47 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: MinorityRepublican

I”m soo F’in sick of the NFL treating QBs as primadonna ballet dancers who need all these “Brady” rules to protect them. All because a few of the leagues franchise qbs may get hurt each season and the NFL advertisers overwhelmingly put qbs in their campaigns. That’s what all this crap is about. $$$.

The NO Fun League officially needs to Man Up, but I’m sure up next will be that nobody is allowed to tackle qbs, ever.
You know its coming.


32 posted on 08/23/2010 9:12:43 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Dr. Sivana

I agree Dr. and the more games the more money they make to pay the high salaries.


33 posted on 08/23/2010 9:12:59 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: terycarl

Brett is fun to watch.


34 posted on 08/23/2010 9:14:41 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

I seem to recall a team that once went unbeaten without their starting QB for most of the year.


35 posted on 08/23/2010 9:17:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: circlecity

You’re right, preseason is about the new guys trying to make the cut. Of course, the veterans have to show up and prove why the new guys don’t get their spot... ;-)


36 posted on 08/23/2010 9:18:38 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yo, William, this Wiki’s for you...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_C._Rhoden


37 posted on 08/23/2010 9:24:49 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: Noob1999

What utter tripe.
He’s saying that a team can play as a team without ever having been a team?
............Why no “preseason”’in college?


38 posted on 08/23/2010 9:48:05 PM PDT by erman (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Seems like every couple of years the NFL adopts another CFL rule. Safety touch, 2-point conversion, next an 18-game season. Now if they can make a missed field goal a live ball it would really get interesting ;-)


39 posted on 08/23/2010 10:07:23 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: MplsSteve

I hope so too.
*******
Why?


40 posted on 08/23/2010 10:24:54 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Obama will sink as fast as he rose. (False) Idolatry will not succeed. Be patient, folks...)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

same here.....since, well a long time ago. after the greatest backfield EVER, Bart Starr, Jimmy Taylor and Paul Hornung hung ‘em up, or soon after was when I left. the entire thing is a damn thug outfit and has been for 40 years, just like the once great NBA. hard to believe the occ. video news clips I happen to see now are the NFL, they are not the NFL I remember when. great athletes now sure but their actions are just sad. oh well, times change I guess. the kids like this sort of thuggish behavior from their sports guys now I suppose.


41 posted on 08/23/2010 10:27:50 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: BigSkyFreeper

And why does the NFL insist on calling them “pre-season” games? Back in the old days, they were called “exhibition” games. And that’s what they still are. They are meaningless exhibition games.


42 posted on 08/23/2010 10:34:06 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: dfwgator

The only team to go unbeaten was the 72 Dolphins with the no name defense and Shula as coach, who are you referring to?


43 posted on 08/23/2010 10:34:12 PM PDT by claymax ("Man is not free unless Government is limited" Ronald Reagan)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Nah, move the regular season back to 14 games and have the Super bowl by the middle of January - in a cold weather location.


44 posted on 08/23/2010 10:35:48 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: dfwgator

Oh wait, I think Bob did get knocked out for about half the year, my apologies. My bad


45 posted on 08/23/2010 10:38:26 PM PDT by claymax ("Man is not free unless Government is limited" Ronald Reagan)
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To: claymax

Earl M. filled in that ‘72 season for Shula and Griese as he healed up iirc. Earl also subbed for Johnny U. at Balt. in ‘68 and was the NFL MVP that season. then the underrated Jet defense, and the choke Colt offense who went AWOL, had a wonderful Superbowl 3 game. I LOVED it!


46 posted on 08/23/2010 10:58:20 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: driftdiver

By the end of their careers some may not walk at all. Check out Earl Campbell, only recently successful back surgery had him out of his wheelchair and walking again.


47 posted on 08/23/2010 11:01:45 PM PDT by 38special (Remember in November!)
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To: Ciexyz

What i want to see is what happens when the fans sue the tramp he fooled around with since she cost the fans seeing him play in four games. There were never even any charges pressed and the guy got suspended so why was he suspended? I don’t want to hear about he is a role model since that’s all bullshit. He is a football player in a business. Role models went out the door when Jack “The Assassin” Tatum joined the league. All Ben did was try to get a piece of ass with a willing participant and when she changed her mind she decided to go for the money. Somebody should sue the tramp along with the other pig in Vegas. AllBen is guilty of is being a dumb hick from a small hick town in Ohio.


48 posted on 08/24/2010 1:11:04 AM PDT by Plumberman27
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To: MinorityRepublican
He's gonna take a flop dive to save his image.

Gotta end a hero, not a loser.

49 posted on 08/24/2010 1:34:14 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
The first fraud is preseason football, those empty, glamorized scrimmages that teams force on season-ticket holders as parts of the regular-season package.

NFL teams have been doing that for over forty years now, so I don't think it's going to change.

50 posted on 08/24/2010 1:56:58 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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