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Consumers Dropping Pay TV Services
IBD's Click ^ | 8/23/2010 | Patrick Seitz

Posted on 08/24/2010 6:18:17 AM PDT by Slyscribe

The number of subscribers to cable, satellite and telecom TV services in the U.S. fell for the first time ever in the second quarter, according to research firm SNL Kagan.

The U.S. multichannel TV market lost 216,000 customers last quarter, vs. a gain of 378,000 a year ago. The total number of subscribers to cable, satellite and telecom video fell to 100.1 million in the second quarter, SNL Kagan says.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; cable; economy; internet; satellite; satellitetv; telecom
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1 posted on 08/24/2010 6:18:19 AM PDT by Slyscribe
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To: Slyscribe

If it weren’t for Fox News, FX, and the Comedy Channel, I would drop it too. Netflix takes care of all movie needs very nicely.


2 posted on 08/24/2010 6:19:59 AM PDT by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: Slyscribe
Note to State-run media:

You can only be out of touch with your customers for so long.

If you misread and insult them daily, they may stop watching.

3 posted on 08/24/2010 6:20:21 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: Slyscribe

Not surprising.
Folks in a financial pinch cut out the non essentials.


4 posted on 08/24/2010 6:20:37 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Slyscribe

The ONLY reason I still have cable is because of the Food Network and Breaking Bad/Mad Men. Even my trusty favorite, Turner Classic Movies, has sucked lately. I’ve almost completely stopped watching FOX News too, except for when I can catch Glenn Beck or Red Eye on.


5 posted on 08/24/2010 6:23:59 AM PDT by alicewonders (Supporters of John McCain are supporters of amnesty. Amnesty by any other name is still amnesty.)
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To: rbg81
I recently cut my sat package down to from the most deluxe to the most basic, for that very reason. Netflix watch instantly completely eliminates the need for the premium packages. My bill went from $130 to $30.

Fox News and HGTV are the only reasons I didn't drop it altogether.

6 posted on 08/24/2010 6:24:35 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Slyscribe

This doesn’t surprise me. I have way more than I use in terms of a cable package and am about to cut way back. And my cable company—like pretty much every cable company—finds ways to up my bill by about $20 or $30 per month to rent equipment that is necessary for the service I am buying! Cable companies have been really tone deaf in this economy if they think they can keep screwing people like that and keep them as customers.


7 posted on 08/24/2010 6:25:23 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

People are getting sick and tired of the bait-and-switch from cable TV.

The original promise of cable was that in exchange for a monthly fee, you woould get programs without commercial interruption.

Now, you get more commercials per episode than with broadscast TV (which is controlled by the FCC). It is beginning to seem that there are more commercials than program. They also pump up the volume


8 posted on 08/24/2010 6:26:58 AM PDT by catman67
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To: Slyscribe

...we got the dish because I liked the Sopranos...now that they’re long gone, I’m wondering why I’m paying so much every month.


9 posted on 08/24/2010 6:27:23 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

We got rid of HBO and Showtime a couple months ago.
Haven’t missed either one.


10 posted on 08/24/2010 6:28:07 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Slyscribe

I’m inches away from dumping my dish, after 15 years of service. Over a hundred channels and hardly anything I care to watch. I wish there was a channel that ran exclusively old shows, like “The Fugitive,” “Rawhide,” “Sea Hunt,” and whatnot.


11 posted on 08/24/2010 6:28:17 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Slyscribe

Gee. I don’t know. Maybe it’s because of the absolute JUNK I get charged for that I don’t watch because it’s so bad or maybe it’s the COST of the JUNK or maybe it’s BOTH!


12 posted on 08/24/2010 6:30:05 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

We dropped all the movie channels - HBO, Showtime, etc - Just kept basic service for sports channels, A&E, HGTV & home improvement channels.


13 posted on 08/24/2010 6:31:02 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: Slyscribe
SNL Kagan.

Saturday Night Live is doing market research now?

14 posted on 08/24/2010 6:31:07 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Slyscribe

If it weren’t for live sports I’d drop cable completely. I find most of the channels not just useless but offensive. I can rent TV shows and movies. If they ever go to sports over the internet, the cable is history.


15 posted on 08/24/2010 6:32:22 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Slyscribe

People are starting to take Franzie seriously now.


16 posted on 08/24/2010 6:35:25 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
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To: Slyscribe

I dropped cable over a year ago and went to off-air TV. With the new digital subchannels, I have over 20 channels available, including a retro channel and a couple of movie channels.

I don’t miss cable (or the $70/mo charge) one tiny little bit.


17 posted on 08/24/2010 6:36:11 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (YouTube My Space and I'll Google your Yahoo.)
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To: Slyscribe

If it wasn’t for my wife and son I would have dropped cable tv service a LONG time ago.


18 posted on 08/24/2010 6:36:35 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: PATRIOT1876

Yeah, but it’s the state-run media only that those who drop cable will be getting. They are dropping cable/satellite because of the cost and in economic times, that becomes a luxury rather than a necessity.

I subscribe only to tv online. Lots cheaper for as much as I watch tv, which is rarely. But I can work/FReep on my computer and turn on the FNS shows I want.


19 posted on 08/24/2010 6:40:04 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Varda
I agree, sports is about the only reason I have it now. The movie channels show the same films over and over, the thousands of infomercials that pass as "programming", and the trend of having to rehash what was in the last ten minutes when a show comes back from commercial is way past annoying.

I recall AMC was showing Tora Tora Tora and every 10 minutes there were commercials, so I looked at the run time and it was around 3 1/2 hours! I just turned it off and popped in my DVD of it and watched the rest in about half the time!

20 posted on 08/24/2010 6:40:21 AM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: Slyscribe

If it were not tied to my broadband, I would drop cable TV.

When I watch TV, I’m mostly watching a DVD from Netflix or instantly through the computer. We’re about halfway through the first season (1966) of Dark Shadows.


21 posted on 08/24/2010 6:41:22 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (You can force me to recycle, but I will NOT sing the song!)
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To: rbg81

Hard to believe it’s coming up on one year since I cancelled tv service.


22 posted on 08/24/2010 6:42:58 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the minority? A: They're complaining about the deficit.)
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To: greene66

Do it. You won’t miss it at all. It’s worthless.


23 posted on 08/24/2010 6:44:03 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the minority? A: They're complaining about the deficit.)
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To: Slyscribe

I wonder how many of these are foreclosed homes? Banks aren’t going to be paying for cable.


24 posted on 08/24/2010 6:44:28 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

You can get a pretty good indoor antenna from Walmart for $30, to watch free digital HD channels. The weather channel on DirecTV sucks, and whenever we have a storm DirecTV doesn’t even work, but the antenna doesn’t have that problem most of the time, and the local free weather station is great.

I keep calling DirecTV to cancel, but they keep giving me 3 more months for free. That has happened twice now.


25 posted on 08/24/2010 6:44:33 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Lt. Col. Ralph Peters: Obama is the dog who caught the fire truck!)
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To: Slyscribe

You mean we’re not the only family on the planet that doesn’t have cable? I’ll have to let my kids know they are sadly misinformed when they tell me this.


26 posted on 08/24/2010 6:45:00 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (He is not one of US.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
I keep calling DirecTV to cancel, but they keep giving me 3 more months for free.

They tried that on me too. I said no thanks. No television is free too, and it's better for you.

27 posted on 08/24/2010 6:48:02 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the minority? A: They're complaining about the deficit.)
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To: Slyscribe

People are tired of paying to be lied to and corrupted.


28 posted on 08/24/2010 6:51:42 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: smokingfrog
People are starting to take Franzie seriously now.

Yeah, but for different reasons. LOL

29 posted on 08/24/2010 6:52:01 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: catman67
They also pump up the volume

Why exactly do the do that? That's my #2 pet peeve. Right behind drivers who drive through the parking stall rows in parking lots.

30 posted on 08/24/2010 6:53:14 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Slyscribe
I dropped cable and now record broadcast HDTV on my SageTV and subscribe to Netflix for $18 a month.

Lot cheaper than cable, and broadcast HDTV is better than cable.

31 posted on 08/24/2010 6:58:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: smokingfrog; Frantzie
People are starting to take Franzie seriously now.

Frantzie gets it.

I do a lot of work for a "BIG" media company. I know first hand that almost all of your monthly cable and satellite payments goes directly to your idealogical enemies.

Pay attention to Frantzie.

32 posted on 08/24/2010 6:59:08 AM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Slyscribe
I'd drop too. However, since I get basic cable in my bundle package. It would cost me more per month to drop it.
33 posted on 08/24/2010 7:00:33 AM PDT by kara37
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To: Slyscribe
The real story here is the entertainment/cable providers moguls who must be sitting in their mansions and penthouses shaking their heads at the decrease in customers.

They're virtually all liberals, most of them voting, no doubt, for hope and change.

Now they have to be hoping the drop-off in business will leave at least some change in their pockets for the public corner laundromats looming in their wives' futures.

Leni

34 posted on 08/24/2010 7:01:02 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I recently cut my sat package down to from the most deluxe to the most basic, for that very reason. Netflix watch instantly completely eliminates the need for the premium packages. My bill went from $130 to $30.

Fox News and HGTV are the only reasons I didn't drop it altogether.

I just did exactly the same thing and for exactly the same reason. I bought an LG Blu-ray player for $250 or so, signed up with Netflix for $8.99 a month and just stream movies. Goodby HBO, Showtime and all the rest. Hello Netflix. A $50/month reduction in my DirecTV bill will cover the Netflix cost, pay for the Blu-ray player in short order and leave me with a few more bucks in my pocket every month that the wifey can waste at Starbucks.

And just FYI - the quality of the Netflix stream over a fast Internet connection is every bit as good if not better than DirectTV. And if you have access to Vudu you can get 1080p streamed at 4.5 mb/s or so that is simply pristine. Great for watching trailers in HD. That's free on Vudu.

I think Netflix is going to continue to take major chunks out of the DirecTV and cable revenue streams. They have a great model for delivering movies that, at this point, nobody can match (although many will try including Google/YouTube.)

35 posted on 08/24/2010 7:04:24 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Slyscribe

I dropped Cable over 6 years ago. I get a lot more done now.

My family owned a small local cable company and I can say that 2/3 of your bill is pretty much just ESPN/Sports (whether you watch it or not).

We considered dropping ESPN completely or making it a pay-to-see, but it meant that 45% of subscribers would be paying something like $100/month for just 1 channel and no one would go for it.

It’s about “sharing the burden” so they spread that ESPN cost to everyone. lol Suckas. :)


36 posted on 08/24/2010 7:04:46 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Slyscribe

The technology is in place to allow people to pay for only those channels they want. But the cable companies won’t do this because they know much of what is on cable would not withstand a fair and free market.


37 posted on 08/24/2010 7:08:38 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: catman67

We originally got satellite because my husband is an insomniac and it had all night programing, there are very few channels that don’t go to infomercials at 2:00 AM.


38 posted on 08/24/2010 7:10:50 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Slyscribe

We have basic basic cable. It costs $12 a month and nets us a 20% discount on our broadband. Getting EWTN is worth the two bucks it ends up costing us.


39 posted on 08/24/2010 7:15:06 AM PDT by Eepsy (www.pioacademy.org)
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To: greene66

I don’t have cable or satellite, but I do have a TV and vcr/dvd player. Last year I bought the first three seasons of Rawhide.

It’s been absolutely great to watch those again.


40 posted on 08/24/2010 7:17:51 AM PDT by Ammo Republic 15
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To: bankwalker
"Pay attention to Frantzie."

When hell freezes over!

41 posted on 08/24/2010 7:20:09 AM PDT by verity
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To: greene66

You can rent TONS of claasic TV shows from Netflix...nearly everything offered on cable nowadays is crap. I really have no use for it...too many books to read, and I’ll NEVER be able to catch up before my time is up. I’ll keep trying, though... :-)


42 posted on 08/24/2010 7:20:37 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Slyscribe

Mad Men is, by it self, worth the monthly subscription price.


43 posted on 08/24/2010 7:20:40 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (What Would Don Draper Do?)
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To: smokingfrog

The fact that people are dropping their cable and satellite services thrills me.

I agree with Frantzie that this is how we are funding the left.


44 posted on 08/24/2010 7:21:36 AM PDT by Ammo Republic 15
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To: Ammo Republic 15

The basic problem is that there is very little on TV worth watching anymore. In addition when you do watch, you are insulted.


45 posted on 08/24/2010 7:22:20 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Varda
If it weren’t for live sports I’d drop cable completely.

I keep DTV just for the NFL ticket. I'm in 3 Fantasy Football leagues and I'm the Commish in one of them. I did drop the movie channels since my wife uses Netflix and loves it. So I get my sports fix and she gets her movies :-)

46 posted on 08/24/2010 7:23:31 AM PDT by pegleg (Lies will seek you out, but the truth must be sought.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
I had Direct TV until recently. Their equipment was so prone to failure that you had to get the "protection package" to cover the tuners. What I didn't realize was that every time you execute that plan they added a year onto your contract. There was no way to get out without breaking the contract.

The only reason I got dish in the first place was that I hated the cable company.

47 posted on 08/24/2010 7:26:33 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: bankwalker

Thanks. I don’t know the answer. TV is not America or mom or apple pie. It is a tool to send out propaganda now and control the population. When I fly; I have to avoid CNN at the airports and bury my head in a book with an iPod to avoid Alec Baldwin on 30 Rock or some other pro Democrat pro obam crap. CNN on Delta is even more disgusting.

I do know that the 5 networks own the majority of the cable stations.

The monthly cable and sat TV fees are divided up by $1.00 or less than a dollar per channel or a few more than a dollar. So Viacom/CBS/VH1/Nickelodeon/MTV/other probably makes $5 to 6 a month. You never turn it on but they get paid. Disney/ABC is the same. Each network have at least five channels and some a dozen or more. I would gues 90% of the channels are owned by the 5 networks or HBO which is even worse.

So every network gets probably $5 to 6 a month. Then most of them have Saudi/Mid East investors including Fox/News Corp. and Time Warner/CNN.

NBC/MSNBC/CNBC/GE and I think Comcast owns 50/50 has endless deals in the middle east for jet engines, water desalinization, turbines for power gen etc.

GE may eventually go bankrupt. It is all based on flaoting short term commercial paper and GE Finance has tons of bad loans on their books. Imam/Uncle Sam had to backstop all the debt. Wonder why MSNBC forths at the mouth for Obama?

Then you have sports where they make a lot of money. The NFL went on insane fawning over Obam that looked like Cuba or the old USSR for Stalin. This was inbetween the “dumb white guy” commercials.

The last straw was ALL the networks and ALL TV support the Imam, the 911 Victory Mosque, ObamaCare aka the first Islamic tax on Americans and Islam. They are the enemy.

Propping up McCain is another thing.

They can do anything and say anything because they know people will not cancel sat or cable TV.


48 posted on 08/24/2010 7:28:47 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Slyscribe
Very interesting turn of events. I heard a report on Bloomberg Radio on this very subject a few weeks back, and this was exactly what they were saying.

In addition to cancellations from people facing financial difficulties, I believe cable and satellite television have now reached a point where they can no longer generate the "critical mass" they need to support their extensive offerings. What I mean by this is that they now offer so many channels to their customers that so few of those channels attract enough viewers to make it worthwhile for the cable/satellite companies to pay (and pass on) the cost of carrying them.

49 posted on 08/24/2010 7:30:17 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: Slyscribe

No wonder Comcast just increased rates again.

Just saw a DIsh Direct ad for 5 months free.


50 posted on 08/24/2010 7:30:19 AM PDT by moehoward
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