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FR Zots Gay Rights RINO Trolls - David Frum Deeply Saddened
Frum Forum ^ | 8/24/10 | RD

Posted on 08/24/2010 10:06:19 AM PDT by TrueRightWing

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To: TrueRightWing

Spocial issues are hardly unimportant. What this shows is that the left controls the media and education and can change the opsotion of the populace. The GOP sees this and follows.


21 posted on 08/24/2010 10:31:00 AM PDT by rmlew ("To put an end to amnesty once and for all...it is time to 'regularize' the status of John McCain.)
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To: little jeremiah

HomoPac ping ...


22 posted on 08/24/2010 10:33:21 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free ...)
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To: TrueRightWing

I think you’re right—that the GOP is and should be focused on the economic message.

I also don’t think the GOP cares about this issue much. I suspect they look at the way the people are already voting against gay marriage, and then how the judges rule, and they don’t see a place for themselves in this fight. What are they going to do about it? Anything they say will allow the Dems to call them haters, which makes the middle uncomfortable and might lose GOP momentum.

I think they’re looking at the prevailing winds in terms of voting and know they’ve already got the support they’re going to get from folks on this issue, in this cycle. I suspect many people who vote against the issue do so without telling people; the defeats have been rather lopsided.

And the RNC certainly doesn’t seem to care about this issue, probably because they suspect how many gays are part of their country club set. Very Rockefeller Republican—moderate to liberal on social issues, caring only for tax cuts for themselves and their pals, and low-cost labor.


23 posted on 08/24/2010 10:34:54 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: Darkwolf377

They may also be looking at the generational split in the vote, and positioning themselves accordingly. Getting in front of an oncoming parade and waving a baton is about the level of “leadership” they’re capable of.


24 posted on 08/24/2010 10:37:22 AM PDT by TrueRightWing
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To: TrueRightWing

That’s a good point. I think many folks here would be surprised at how to most young people gay marriage is no big deal, and strong opposition to it by the party could brand them the way opposition to abortion did. I am NOT saying I approve of this, merely observing what appears to be an inevitable truth—that gay marriage may be stopped for now, but I think its day is coming, and the gay rights bunch will move on to the next thing they’ll be bitching about.


25 posted on 08/24/2010 10:41:07 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: roses of sharon

Frum is all excited about our children being taught that anal sex is normal and natural.

From what I hear, the anus collapses after a while from sexual overuse and one has to use a bag (I don’t know the medical term for it) attached to them to go to the bathroom.

This is normal and natural?


26 posted on 08/24/2010 10:42:02 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Darkwolf377
the GOP is and should be focused on the economic message.

I don't disagree. However, WE CAN DO BOTH! This is not an either/or. IMHO, this is a Trojan Horse for conservatives. A true conservative does not need to identify themselves separately (GOProud?) by what they perceive to be their sexual orientation. The mission of GOProud is decidedly non-conservative.

27 posted on 08/24/2010 10:43:13 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free ...)
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To: jagusafr
In the words of my graddad, “If all your friends jumped off a cliff, would you?”

Bad analogy.

The issue here is getting voters to vote for you, or for your guy.

With both immigration AND gay "rights", these are the facts:

When presented with a choice on a ballot, and the right to vote "yes" or "no", the voters are on our side.

When presented with a candidate who makes immigration or gay "rights" an issue, they usually vote for the other guy.

Does it make sense? Not really. Is it accurate? You betcha.

The GOP is right not to allow gay "rights", specifically opposition to it, to be identified with them.

In that form, it's a loser.

28 posted on 08/24/2010 10:43:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If the answer is "Republican", it must be a stupid question.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
I don't disagree. However, WE CAN DO BOTH! This is not an either/or.

In this election cycle it is.

29 posted on 08/24/2010 10:45:23 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: roses of sharon
How will Frum feel when his son is in a hospital at age 35 or 40, unable to hold his own feces in anymore?

Let's not forget the painful hemorrhoids requiring painful surgery leading up to the rectal prolapse, the genital warts, and the genital, oral or anal cancers.

30 posted on 08/24/2010 10:46:06 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Rest in peace, Congressman BillyBob.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Do both? I'm waiting to see any indication that these jokers can do either....
31 posted on 08/24/2010 10:51:07 AM PDT by TrueRightWing
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To: TrueRightWing

What’s conservative anymore. Ann Coulter is hanging with the poofters. She’s a conservative, but I don’t get it just the same.

It would be so much simpler if we just called homosexuality what it is - a psychosexual syndrome or disorder.

At least we could try to study what causes it, have a telethon, and come up with a vaccine.


32 posted on 08/24/2010 10:51:57 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: TrueRightWing

There isn’t a more important issue than fixing the judiciary. Republicans winning elections is meaningless of liberty is being stripped from the people by judges like Vaughn Walker.


33 posted on 08/24/2010 10:53:31 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: edge10
“Public opinion is changing rapidly in favor of gay marriage rights.... “
Funny, that is not what the voters of the majority of the states have said at the ballot box.

Spot on. But you should know by now that 65% in favor of a conservative idea is "barely half", whereas 51% in favor of a liberal idea is "an overwhelming groundswell in favor of (fill in the atrocious perversion here)."

Moreover, public opinion thought Obama would be an acceptable president, too; but now that the public has more accurate information? Not so much.

If the public knew the truth about the gay life instead of these treacly "two daddies" propaganda pieces, the public would be 90% against the entire gay agenda.

34 posted on 08/24/2010 10:54:51 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Rest in peace, Congressman BillyBob.)
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To: TrueRightWing; Servant of the Cross; trisham; little jeremiah; xzins; Albion Wilde; P-Marlowe; ...

TrueRightWing were you confused when you joined FR?

This is a CONSERVATIVE forum and from what I can tell all you’ve done in the few days you’ve been a member is push libertarianism especially militant homosexualism.


35 posted on 08/24/2010 10:56:03 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

A conservative forum in the natural place for people who agree with Ann Coulter and Grover Norquist and Dick Cheney and David Frum and Ted Olson and....


36 posted on 08/24/2010 10:57:40 AM PDT by TrueRightWing
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To: TrueRightWing

Free Republic does not support or promote the homosexual agenda.


37 posted on 08/24/2010 10:58:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TrueRightWing
Sometimes, when your "opponent" is pushing very hard against you, the best move is to step aside and let him fall under his own weight.

The gays are like adolescent teens...mired in rebellion and the more you protest, the harder they are going to push.

In raising four kids, I learned the best way to get them to see the light is to move out of the way and let them run into that wall. (all safely supervised, of course). Their own, failed experiences will teach them better than all the parental nagging on earth.
38 posted on 08/24/2010 10:58:58 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: massgopguy

I’m writing Davis in.


39 posted on 08/24/2010 11:00:01 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: verity
Good. Neither the political parties can count on your vote.

(sigh) Ok, please explain your leap of logic to take my comment - "This is why I am no longer a Republican, but a conservative. Republicans and conservatives aren’t the same thing, anymore!!" - and arrive at "Good. Neither the political parties can count on your vote"?

40 posted on 08/24/2010 11:00:08 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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