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Teen who saved drowning boy faces large medical bills, family says
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 8/24/10 | Vernon Clement Jones

Posted on 08/25/2010 8:16:29 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Say family does not have insurance to pay cost of precautionary check-up

The family of a 17-year-old Zion teen credited with saving a drowning boy on Monday in Kenosha, Wis., say the good deed has unfairly saddled them with more than $2,000 in medical bills.

“He did what the lifeguard should have done — Trevor saved the boy,” Nicole Bollinger said Tuesday of her cousin, Trevor Hall.

“Now the hospital phones me this morning to say that they’re sending off the bill for Trevor being taken to hospital as a precaution afterwards.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bills; drowning; hospital; saved; teen

1 posted on 08/25/2010 8:16:32 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Ummmm....exactly who should pay the bill? The hospital? From the sound of the story, the hospital is probably going to eat the bill anyway...but that doesn’t make it their obligation to do so.

People expect ER’s and hospitals to ‘be there’ when needed, then publish crap like this when the dare to ‘send a bill’.

Not directing this at you, just commenting about the title of the article.


2 posted on 08/25/2010 8:24:50 PM PDT by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: LibWhacker
Teachable moment.

Rule 1) Never sign anything.
Rule 2) Never allow them to take your clothes.

3 posted on 08/25/2010 8:24:55 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: LibWhacker

These medical tests are bullshit. I was a lifeguard and though I never had to save anyone in danger, I did pull a few out to prevent something from happening.

Blood test? for what - chlorine? Yep, it’s in the water, stupids.
EKG - why? The kid’s heart is find. He rescued someone without having a heart attack.

Ridiculous. The ambulance crew could check his pulse and breathing, and then thank him for his efforts.

WTF?


4 posted on 08/25/2010 8:27:54 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: LibWhacker
Sheesh...

Hall was taken just for precautionary measures,” Benn said. Hall had swallowed some water in the incident. The hospital later released them, but not before Hall had undergone a battery of tests, including chest X-rays, an electrocardiogram and blood work.

The hospital was covering its behind with such a huge battery of tests. In the good ole days, he would never have been transported to the hospital in an ambulance and certainly not given all those tests. Somebody pool-side would've said "You're wet, but you'll be fine" and that would have been the end of it. This is the handiwork of too many lawyers and the pussification of the US.

5 posted on 08/25/2010 8:33:25 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: LibWhacker

I was billed close to this by a Wi Hospital for my kid getting 7 stitches.

They were most persistent.

BTW my insurance conveniently dropped him at 19.

Quite a racket. 7 stitches?


6 posted on 08/25/2010 8:35:49 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: LibWhacker
"Hall had swallowed some water in the incident. The hospital later released them, but not before Hall had undergone a battery of tests, including chest X-rays, an electrocardiogram and blood work, said Bollinger."

Good thing he didn't have a nose bleed. They could have used every piece of equipment they owned for that.

7 posted on 08/25/2010 8:36:06 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: Ethrane

He wasn’t in need of medical care and his mom didn’t order the battery of tests. Who do you think should pay the bill?


8 posted on 08/25/2010 8:36:25 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: LibWhacker

Heck...In today’s society, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the hero get sued by the “almost” drownee as well...


9 posted on 08/25/2010 8:41:16 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“This is the handiwork of too many lawyers and the pussification of the US.”

I agree 100%...it’s just cover-your-behind, thoroughly unnecessary testing. Patients have the right to refuse treatment and in this case the kid should have done so.


10 posted on 08/25/2010 8:41:31 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“These medical tests are bullshit.”

“The ambulance crew could check his pulse and breathing, and then thank him for his efforts.”

Maybe this is an example of how everybody (not just MDs) but everybody is following orders to protect themselves from potential lawsuits.

The “officials” (ambulance crew, police, potential responsible parties of property, business — whatever — )urge kid to go to the hospital so they won’t be sued by the lawyers advertising on day-time TV.


11 posted on 08/25/2010 8:42:39 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: LibWhacker
Well *somebody* has to pay the lawyers and AMA membership dues.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

12 posted on 08/25/2010 8:44:02 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: LibWhacker

$2000 for a quick ER check-up means 10 illegal immigrants can get free medical!!!


13 posted on 08/25/2010 8:45:00 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

too many lawyers and chickenshit litigation


14 posted on 08/25/2010 8:47:20 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Yep. There is a lot of churning by “emergency services” nowadays. I’ve seen fire, police and ems called on the report of fender benders where no one was hurt, then the people are billed.

Government as squeegee guys.


15 posted on 08/25/2010 8:52:19 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

If he shows up in a hospital, for whatever reason, they are obligated to make sure he is OK. There is nothing else the hospital can do. Who sent him there? Ever aspirate lake water? Ever have negative pressure pulmonary edema?

If the hospital did nothing, sent him home and the kid died from something he aspirated, are they not going to be sued?

Did the hospital direct that the kid be taken to their ER?

Things always look clear through the 180 degree retrospectoscope after the event, to people that have no freaking idea what legal liabilities are faced by those actually involved in patient care. If his Mom didn’t order the ‘battery of tests’ and the kid died or suffered injury, legally it doesn’t matter...they are still potentially liable in a court of law.

Who do I think should pay the bill? Not the hospital who was doing their LEGALLY mandated diligence, and protecting themselves as appropriate. Unless the hospital coerced whomever to bring the kid to the hospital so they could rip him off, they were only doing their job.

Why don’t you re-write the expected article headline if they had done nothing, sent to local hero home, and the kid then died. Go ahead...I’d like to see it. Also, try to estimate for me what the likely lawsuit would have been settled for.


16 posted on 08/25/2010 8:57:34 PM PDT by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: 2banana

Bump!


17 posted on 08/25/2010 9:01:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: LibWhacker

Screw this hospital... this is complete bullcrap... They basically kidnap the boy and force him to undergo their “evaluation” ... Why? Because the hospital staff figured him AN EASY MARK, to soak his insurance company for the cost. This exemplifies the reason to have walked away and let the dummy in the pool drown... I would have said too bad for him, and walked away. Maybe he should learn to swim before entering a pool.


18 posted on 08/25/2010 9:02:48 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

I got an even better one for ‘ya....

Rewrite the expected headline if the hospital sent the local kid hero home without tests, and the mother complained.

Was it because the evil hospital knew he had no insurance?


19 posted on 08/25/2010 9:03:34 PM PDT by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: TCH

Please explain how the hospital ‘kidnapped the boy’.

This will be good.


20 posted on 08/25/2010 9:04:28 PM PDT by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: Ethrane
Things always look clear through the 180 degree retrospectoscope after the event, to people that have no freaking idea what legal liabilities are faced by those actually involved in patient care. If his Mom didn’t order the ‘battery of tests’ and the kid died or suffered injury, legally it doesn’t matter...they are still potentially liable in a court of law.

You know how many bad germs are floating around you? If you don't go to the hospital now, you might die next week.

21 posted on 08/25/2010 9:08:31 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Ethrane

There was no need to send the kid to the hospital. He could have been checked out at the scene by the EMT. The article didn’t say he aspirated lake water. It said he swallowed lake water.


22 posted on 08/25/2010 9:09:46 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: Ethrane

Since when can a hospital order an outsider (not an emergency patient) to come in and get a series of tests?

They can’t. Not even the EMTs or police can order or take the young hero in if he were not in any kind of imminent danger (i.e, bleeding, dazed, feeling sick, etc). They can suggest it but if they took him, it is against his will (he was too young to resist them) and this could be the basis for a lawsuit. Basically, only his parents/guardians can authorize his admission to the hospital and if they weren’t notified about it, then they have grounds to sue.

Looks like the hospital is going to eat the bill in order to avoid a much larger lawsuit.

PS: I’m a paralegal and work in liability law. My son is a police officer and has had to handle emergency medical situations including my own. He’s trained to do that but he can’t order someone to go to the hospital (unless that person is in imminent danger of harm).


23 posted on 08/25/2010 9:15:42 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Ethrane

I believe I stated “PRACTICALLY kidnapped”... Let’s review the story:

“Both teens were rushed to the Aurora Medical Center in Kenosha, said Sgt. Gil Benn.”

AT WHO’s REQUEST? The Boy’s, His parents? The Police? Just who decided to compel that this boy should go? Was he the one who nearly drowned? No. He swallowed a little water... BIG EFFING DEAL... I probably swallowed a gallon when I was a kid. I don’t suppose those EMTs had a thing to do with coercing the boy to the hospital, right? And who or what entity directs the EMT to take this action? Oh, I don’t suppose it’s the doctors who train them... Nah, couldn’t be!

But let’s return to the story:

“Hall was taken just for precautionary measures,” Benn said. Hall had swallowed some water in the incident.

And WHO coerced this “precautionary treatment”? Wouldn’t be Hospital staff... Naw, They’d NEVER do that! Never happen. “Oh, Mrs. so-and-so... we really think your son should have these tests, just in case...” I am sure they played up the possible horror scenarios really well... regular drama.

Ah, but now the story line offers us the clincher:

“The hospital later released them, but not before Hall had undergone a battery of tests, including chest X-rays, an electrocardiogram and blood work, said Bollinger.”

So the HOSPITAL RELEASED HIM ONLY AFTER HE WENT THROUGH THEIR BATTERY OF TEST... Hmmm

I maintain my position... practically kidnapped... and then coerced to the hospital staff’s way of thinking... CA-CHING CA-CHING!


24 posted on 08/25/2010 9:18:55 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: LibWhacker
The family of a 17-year-old Zion teen credited with saving a drowning boy on Monday in Kenosha, Wis., say the good deed has unfairly saddled them with more than $2,000 in medical bills...damn inconsiderate - should have let the kid drown.....
25 posted on 08/25/2010 9:24:40 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/101526453.html

Little different version...


26 posted on 08/25/2010 9:32:58 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Intolerant in NJ

It’s okay, the bill is on us...

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The hospital says it will wait until Bollinger, who is insured, enrolls Hall, who is currently uninsured, in Illinois’ children health care program before sending its bill. Bollinger said she is working to get Hall enrolled now.

Tunkieicz encouraged Bollinger to fill out the proper paperwork with the county if she feels the county should pay her medical bills.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/kid-kenosha-county-hospital-bill-lifeguard-swimming-hero-101462674.html#ixzz0xgPHZcBq


27 posted on 08/25/2010 9:35:38 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: LibWhacker

well if he was an illegal he would get helath care for free.....


28 posted on 08/25/2010 9:46:02 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: LibWhacker

The bill is not rightfully owed by Trevor, but by the boy he saved.


29 posted on 08/25/2010 9:51:18 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama is so conceited, he probably thinks that the 'Zero' in 'Ground Zero' refers to him!)
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To: sourcery

Check the link at 27. The mom of the rescued boy offered to pay the medical bill. I think that is what should happen.


30 posted on 08/25/2010 9:56:41 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: ltc8k6

The comment that the lifeguard is not supposed to rescue people outside the designated area is more offical bullshit.

The criteria for a lifeguard ( as I was), was that you don’t endanger anyone’s life (including your own) to make a rescue. You do what you can “safely” but you don’t risk your own life when it is more than a dangerous situation. Two dead people don’t make things any better. It’s a hard choice, but reason has to be exercised or there will be more tragedy than was necessary.

Any lifeguard who can’t throw a life-ring over 25-50 ft to someone doesn’t deserve to be a lifeguard. You are supposed to be trained to do that, as well as to recover a drowning victim down to 15-20 feet. Paying attention to what is going on in the water is paramount.


31 posted on 08/25/2010 10:25:35 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I agree. This was stupid. But I bet the family who now does not want to pay wanted him “checked out”. Then the ER physician knew this was a high profile case thought
I family is demanding him be checked out so I have to do something”. See it all the time.


32 posted on 08/26/2010 7:33:40 AM PDT by therut
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