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Bad blood lingers among Arizona Republicans
The Hill, Washington, DC ^ | 2010-08-25 | Sean J. Miller

Posted on 08/26/2010 5:36:21 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Edited on 08/26/2010 6:52:20 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Sen. John McCain acknowledged his primary rivals during his victory speech after winning Tuesday's Arizona Republican primary, but not warmly.

It took until the sixth paragraph of his acceptance speech, and his remarks notably mentioned his closest rival, J.D. Hayworth, last.

"This was a tough, hard-fought primary, and my opponents, Jim Deakin and Congressman Hayworth, and their families and supporters, deserve credit for having the courage to enter the arena, and give so much of themselves to the candidate they believed in," McCain said. "I wish them well in the future."

Deakin was taking a wild stab at public office, whereas Hayworth was a six-term congressman before losing to Rep. Harry Mitchell (D-Ariz.) in 2006.

Hayworth finished Tuesday with more than 30 percent of the vote — a bloc unlikely to warm to McCain. Hayworth was just as cold toward the senator in his concession speech.

"Elections are clarifying moments," he said after conceding to McCain.

Hayworth said voters determined McCain was a "better custodian of their goals and desires."

Jeers broke out among the crowd. "Let's understand we have to move forward," he said. "[O]ur campaign comes to an end." He added, "The cause endures. It is a fight worth having."

Hayworth has said he'll support the Arizona Republican ticket but not McCain personally.


TOPICS: US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: jd; jdhayworth; mcnasty; mcrino
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To: Hildy

McCain is known to have a mean streak and hold grudges. My prayer is that that meanness extends to Obama. Obama has treated John like crap to his face on national TV. I did not vote for McCain but I hope he never forgets nor forgives Obama and puts his energies toward making HIM look like a fool and a loser. That really shouldn’t be hard to do.


51 posted on 08/26/2010 6:26:23 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (TheSurvivalMom.com)
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To: calex59
I do live in Arizona an McCain has driven me crazy for years, but his conservative rating is 80%. (not less than %50 as you suggest). The Senate looks to be evenly balanced after Nov. Anyone who concedes a seat to a Dem. who will be 0% conservative and is certain to vote the Dem party line is loony.

There will be some votes upcoming that literally determine the future of this country as we've known it and loved it. I hope McCain won't continue to associate himself with Obie's failed policies, since the landscape has changed since '08-'09. I admit, McCain unleashed, facing no re-election is scary but we're watching him closely. This is damn serious and I'm not putting my vote in the hands of a democrat, whom I consider lower than pond scum. Real POS.

52 posted on 08/26/2010 6:29:01 PM PDT by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: chiller

We have actually.

It is just that we value freedom over prosperity and are willing to take the long view.

I don’t need peace more than I need freedom. My posessions are less important than freedom.

My political decisions are not based on what is less painfull right now.

Obama winning over McCain, painfull as it may be short term, has moved the public to the right. Eliminating the bipartisan pretentions that Obama has been to project accelerates this effect.


53 posted on 08/26/2010 6:30:45 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: presently no screen name

I don’t know Arizona law specifically but I know in a lot of cases people who don’t win their primary, that still want to run, run as an independent.


54 posted on 08/26/2010 6:32:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: calex59

And....the poster added the headline that “JD wouldn’t support McCain”, which you have shown to be untrue.


55 posted on 08/26/2010 6:33:15 PM PDT by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: rabscuttle385

The people have spoken. They said that they wanted Mc Cain. For my part, they can have him. And they can have the amnsty for illegals that is coming now. He is part of the reason we have obama now.

Stupid me, I empathized with the people of Arizona in their plight, or, as evidenced by the renomination of Mc Cain for Senator feigned plight,with illegal immigration. Was I ever fooled.


56 posted on 08/26/2010 6:34:10 PM PDT by sport
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To: Para-Ord.45

A brand new Rat couldn’t possibly have the influence McNuts has and in the political climate of today couldn’t grow very strong. In a western state like AZ the Rat might even be fairly conservative and actually stick to their positions. In six years maybe the AZ Pubbies can put up a decent conservative to take the seat back.


57 posted on 08/26/2010 6:34:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: chiller
McCain has driven me crazy for years, but his conservative rating is 80%

Any rating scheme which posits conservatism in an author of McCain/Feingold, and the Amnesty bills, and the bailouts is outright communist.

Take your Orwellian doublespeak to DU where it is appreciated.

58 posted on 08/26/2010 6:35:27 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Hildy
"You’re insane. It’s his last hurrah...I predict he will stay to the right..."

What has mcCain done to make you think that? If it is his last shot he will come with both guns. Don't be so stupid. He is still pissed at us because he didn't get his amnesty bill passed.

59 posted on 08/26/2010 6:36:40 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Right. I wanted to find out if it’s possible - deadline to file, etc, to run as an Independent. For Alaska, it was June 1st.

IMO, that’s the way to go.


60 posted on 08/26/2010 6:38:09 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: chiller

“I do live in Arizona an McCain has driven me crazy for years, but his conservative rating is 80%”

True. But JD’s rating is 98%! As for the 80%, he only has that because he votes with the Republicans on issues that DON’T MATTER. On all important issues, he votes with the Left. He has ZERO credibility. Zero.


61 posted on 08/26/2010 6:39:09 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Don't make me use uppercase.)
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To: sport

Not necessarily, sport. There is a large number of Independents in Az and many are on the left. They get to vote for either side in the primary. THEY helped elect Juan McLiberal.

In a closed primary situation, JD would prolly be the nominee. The Republicans have tried to get rid of the crossovers, but so far have failed.


62 posted on 08/26/2010 6:42:31 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Don't make me use uppercase.)
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To: stilloftyhenight
"He has ZERO credibility. Zero."

McCain is another old political hack that needs to retire. What sucks is too many of the voting populace can't see it. If McCain retains his senate seat Obama has another supporter. Bank on it.

63 posted on 08/26/2010 6:49:06 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: sport
The people have spoken. They said that they wanted Mc Cain.

Yes they have. McCain trounced Hayworth by more than 20 percentage points.

Governor Palin supports John McCain and he will be our representative for the Republican Party in the upcoming election.

Do you want the Liberal Democrats to win? Remember that Ronald Reagan said, "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican".

64 posted on 08/26/2010 6:49:45 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: rabscuttle385; BufordP
McCain needs donations to ensure a win in November. Let's send him some.


65 posted on 08/26/2010 6:52:22 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Michelle Obama: the woman who ended "Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.")
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To: Crawdad

Anyone who wants McCain to win is a traitor.


66 posted on 08/26/2010 6:55:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: chiller
#66
67 posted on 08/26/2010 6:56:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I am so sick and tired of reading the BS sob stories of Freepers complaining about John McCain and his victory over JD Hayworth this week in the Arizona primary election. Look, fools, I do not like John McCain. I think he ran a very weak campaign against America hating POTUS Obama. He had the opportunity to nail him when the Rev. Jeremiah Wright story broke. But, he whimped out like a weakling at best. However, NY has a great two word saying (S__t Happens). And....John McCain is the Republican candidate for the US Senate from Arizona. So.....you folks better cut out the carping and vote for him!!! Why? For two reasons!!! One, JD Hayworth had his chance and lost fair & square. Number two, more importantly, this upcoming election is most likely the most important election many of us will ever participate in. For goodness sakes, our country hangs in the balance of destruction by an American hating, POTUS, Barack Hussein Obama. You better think about yourselves, your children and your grandchildren. JA Hayworth should act like a man with dignity and grace, and support John McCain. Most Arizona voters will be voting for John McCain. He won fair & square. He must be elected to the US Senate this November, 2010 so that the Republican Party can win Senate control and begin the destruction of POTUS Obama, his America hating ilk and the anti-American Democrat Party!!! Stop the BS ranting....and...save our great and maginifcent country!!! End of story!!!


68 posted on 08/26/2010 6:57:45 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: sport

The liberal democrats seemed to have voted for Juan McCain.

I did not know they can crossover in the primaries.


69 posted on 08/26/2010 7:08:35 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: chiller

And this is why Free Republic has jumped the shark. They hate McCain more than they love their country.


70 posted on 08/26/2010 7:16:41 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Shooter 2.5
And this is why Free Republic has jumped the shark. They hate McCain more than they love their country.

To be entirely fair, to hate McCain IS to love your country.

71 posted on 08/26/2010 7:22:57 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Jim Noble
"so long as RINO's keep getting elected simply because there is an "R" next to their name

But your premise is false.

That's not why RINOs get elected."

Okay, WHY do RINO's keep getting re-elected? (Other than the RNC funds their campaigns and outspends any non-establishment candidates in the Primaries)????

72 posted on 08/26/2010 7:26:16 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Hildy

Please explain. McBane has lots of personal wealth, can meander as he pleases, and will do as he has always done—severely shaft America.

His is a false hope.


73 posted on 08/26/2010 7:29:40 PM PDT by petertare (--.)
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To: chiller; FlingWingFlyer; All
that we can afford to lose the seat to a Dem.

Earth to chiller: McCain is a Dem.


74 posted on 08/26/2010 7:33:27 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Mr. Lucky
They hold the majority with him on some key issues now. Him losing, us dealing with a D there for 6 yrs may be the only way to get him out.

I fear that he will help usher in amnesty as his legacy...

75 posted on 08/26/2010 7:33:56 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: petertare

Listen, McCain is worried about his legacy. Right now, he doesn’t have a good one...He is not stupid. He will stay mostly to the right.


76 posted on 08/26/2010 7:42:31 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

J.D. nasty? Not at all. You would have had to follow the primary from the beginning to understand just how low down and desperate the McCain campaign was from the start.


77 posted on 08/26/2010 7:44:33 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Thank you. From someone who worked very hard to defeat McCain for all the reasons you state...I agree that this nonstop negativity has got to end. However, it doesn’t matter what non-Arizonans say about McCain. He’ll win. His Democrat opponent is a political neophyte with no money. It’s a done deal...But this carping has got to stop. WE MUST PULL TOGETHER FOR NOVEMBER...WE HAVE NO CHOICE. The time to make a statement is over.


78 posted on 08/26/2010 7:45:25 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: traditional1

No, what you get is the D voting 99 - 100% with their party and NEVER reaching across the aisle to acknowledge or even attempt to work with Republicans.

Yes, we have some horrible RINOs in the Senate, but, at least every once in a while, they do vote with their party.

This reasoning is so flawed, IMO. Funny thing is, up until the healthcare vote, there were those deemed bluedog Democrats, who may have voted NO, but, Pelosi threatened them. So, they towed the party line.

That’s what you get with a D. Total party goosestep. I think this must be the kind of thinking that allowed the Hitlers and Mussolinis to come to power. No politician is 100% truthful, regardless of whether there is an R or D beside the name.


79 posted on 08/26/2010 7:50:56 PM PDT by Catsrus (Have)
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To: Catsrus
So you think a couple seat Majority of Republicans, with a sprinkling of RINO's, is a GOOD thing?

I'd rather have NO RINO's, and at least we can be sure we won't be fooled by some Democrat that runs as a Republican, and votes like Specter or Snowe or Collins, etc.

80 posted on 08/26/2010 8:03:04 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Melchior

I just saw McShame on Greta sneering about JD not calling to congratulate him. Normally I would call that bad form but I think I’ll withold judgement this time. JD may be a little shady but he would be a good solid conservative vote in the Senate. At least you would never hear the following quote coming out of Hayworth. “You have nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency”


81 posted on 08/26/2010 8:24:03 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2
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To: Hildy
I think you are the insane one here!

McCain is a very large part of the problem that exists in our current government.

You can continue to hold your own nose and vote for the bastard(s) untill you sufficate. Frankly, I hope you do.

The rest of us are sick to death of this “game” that affects every aspect of our lives.

82 posted on 08/26/2010 8:31:21 PM PDT by sarasmom (No incumbent re-elected, at any level of government office.(Period))
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To: traditional1
Okay, WHY do RINO's keep getting re-elected? (Other than the RNC funds their campaigns and outspends any non-establishment candidates in the Primaries)????

Because they represent the most people.

83 posted on 08/26/2010 8:31:58 PM PDT by Jim Noble (If the answer is "Republican", it must be a stupid question.)
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To: sarasmom

You don’t live in Arizona, so I don’t really care much what you have to say about Arizona. Go make sure Rubio gets in, ok?


84 posted on 08/26/2010 8:35:49 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Pull your head out of your arse.

I am sick to death of naive people like you, who continue to support “the lessor of two evils” RINO candidates, as if you are cheering on a local High School sports “team” to victory.

You don't like the POS, but you voted for him anyway?
Frankly, I doubt you even bothered to vote for anyone.

Did you even vote in this primary?

85 posted on 08/26/2010 8:48:23 PM PDT by sarasmom (No incumbent re-elected, at any level of government office.(Period))
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain hopes his tombstone will someday read, “He was almost as good as Ted Kennedy”!

No, I won’t vote for McCain, but I will be volunteering for our other candidates.


86 posted on 08/26/2010 8:52:20 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX; sarasmom; stephenjohnbanker; Bokababe; DoughtyOne; AuntB; mkjessup; All
our country hangs in the balance of destruction

News flash: the U.S. was already in deep trouble long before Obama showed up on the scene.

Debts were mounting, Social Security and other entitlements were already long gone before Obama showed up.

Obama is merely the straw that is breaking the camel's back, so to speak. But that's not to say that McCain couldn't have played the exact same role as Obama, that conservatives would have subsequently taken the brunt of the blame, and that an evil Marxist like Obama would have been elected after McCain anyways.

87 posted on 08/26/2010 8:59:15 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Hildy
Oh I will.
And guess what? We also managed to get Scott in the running, and ousted the resident professional politician who tried to ride his “R”, to the unemployment line.

Funny thing, forcing the RINOs to out themselves really works!

Arizona should try that.

88 posted on 08/26/2010 9:02:23 PM PDT by sarasmom (No incumbent re-elected, at any level of government office.(Period))
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To: rabscuttle385
You didn't answer my question.

Did you even vote in this primary?

89 posted on 08/26/2010 9:05:30 PM PDT by sarasmom (No incumbent re-elected, at any level of government office.(Period))
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To: sarasmom
Did you even vote in this primary?

I didn't, because I am not domiciled in Arizona.

90 posted on 08/26/2010 9:07:15 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Sadly, it seems too many FReepers have jumped, you are correct.

I didn’t want to believe it, but now I do

Adios


91 posted on 08/26/2010 9:44:38 PM PDT by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: ChocChipCookie
McCain is known to have a mean streak and hold grudges. My prayer is that that meanness extends to Obama. Obama has treated John like crap to his face on national TV. I did not vote for McCain but I hope he never forgets nor forgives Obama and puts his energies toward making HIM look like a fool and a loser. That really shouldn’t be hard to do.

You don't know McCain very well. Even in his campaign of trashing and spreadling lies about JD he still wouldn't say anything bad about Obama. McCain was at a town hall and was asked what he thought about the job Obama is doing and McCains answered by saying "I will not say anything bad about the man who is the President"

And that was just last month!!! He is a liberal through and through.

92 posted on 08/26/2010 9:52:01 PM PDT by AZMike2010
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To: Hildy
Listen, McCain is worried about his legacy. Right now, he doesn’t have a good one...He is not stupid. He will stay mostly to the right.

He's not stupid? What does him being stupid have anything to do with it? The only time McCain goes to the right is when he has to win elections. Did you see him on Greta tonight? He said close the borders first here in Arizona and then work on comprehensive immigration reform. In other words AMNESTY. McCain is a disaster for the conservative movement and is a huge part of the reason why we are in this mess.

93 posted on 08/26/2010 9:55:52 PM PDT by AZMike2010
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To: traditional1

These RINOS are deal makers, they are not even motivated by genuine beliefs. McCain has been making deals with the Dems for all of these years so that they will give him payback when he wants it. They horse trade. McCain votes with the Dems to act as a “beard” to give them cover on controversial bills so that the Dems can clain that it was “bipartisan”. In exchange they will throw some pork to McCain who will hand the pork over to his crony supporters. The crony supporters will thank him by continuing to give money to McCain’s campaign chest. The law allows politicians to keep any money that is left over in their campaign chest when they retire. It is all a merry-go-round of cronyism with the taxpayers money.


94 posted on 08/26/2010 10:06:20 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: MrEdd

I wonder what Snow, Graham and the other RINOS are going to do now that the Democrats are so fallen in disfavor? The Dems aren’t the A list anymore.


95 posted on 08/26/2010 10:19:44 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

I suspect they will hang on.

The foreign money and the dream of being players in international politics will keep them on the liberal plantation.

I believe they were moles from their inception.

You’ll have to ask Putin to know for sure.


96 posted on 08/26/2010 10:30:20 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: traditional1

You totally misunderstood my post. No, I’d rather not have any RINO,s, but, I prefer them to DEMS. I’ve grown to loathe what they stand for. We are NEVER going to have 100% pure conservatism,especially from some of the deep blue states. So, we have to take a part-timer (RINO) over a DEM.

And, I’d rather NOT have any DEMS in office. NONE! They’re all marxists and socialists and dragging this country down a road we don’t want to go. I have no use for that party.

I guess it’s futile to try to explain to some that a RINO is better than a DEM. Some like to point fingers at how intolerant the left is - well, some on the right are the same way.


97 posted on 08/27/2010 1:08:04 AM PDT by Catsrus (Have)
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To: sarasmom

Just for your information, my dear, I have voted in my state of residence in every primary and every election since I was eighteen years old and.....that is mucho election and primaries. And....also foryou info, I have also been a Barry Goldwater/Ronald Reagan conservative my entire life!!! And....believe me, your ranting is not going to stop me. I want the Democrat Party destroyed and with it POTUS Barack Hussein Obama and all who support this America destroyer. Yes....I would rather have McCain then a John Kerry, a Harry Reid, an Al Franken!!! Kindly get real, we are in a war to save our country!!! Have a great day, closed mind!!!!


98 posted on 08/27/2010 4:28:20 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Hildy
That’s why we never get ahead..because of people like you. Listen to me, I worked my ass off to defeat John McCain. But he won. DEAL WITH IT...you’d rather lose the Senate out of spite? You’re insane. It’s his last hurrah...I predict he will stay to the right...there might be nobody to reach across the aisle to...STAY POSITIVE.

LOL, you obviously haven't checked my posting history - usually, I'm the guy who is slapping around the holier-than-thou types who want to dump somebody because he only scored a 95% on the ACU lifetime voting record survey.

However, I understand that the GOP has to draw a line somewhere. It's one thing to support imperfect candidates who are still, nevertheless, reasonably conservative - especially when these less than ideal candidates hail from states like in the northeast or the northwest where we cannot reasonably expect a real red-meat conservative candidate to do any good at all. It's quite another thing, however, to simply support the Party's candidate because he has an "R" after his name.

And in the case of McCain, that's what we'd be doing. Let's face it - McCain is terrible, from just about any point of view you want to look at it. He is pro-amnesty, pro-illegal, questionable on social issues, his fiscal conservatism has a definite country-clubbish ring of expediency to it, and he seems to make it his business to fight harder against his own Party than he does against the other guys. We don't need McCain in the Party.

And what's worse - Arizona could do a lot better. It's not like AZ is some left-wing New Englander state or anything, after all.

Frankly, McCain can't exit from the political scene fast enough for my taste. He really needs to just retire, take up golf, and enjoy the rest of his silver days out at Sun City West or somewhere. In the meantime, he won't get a lick of support from me.

99 posted on 08/27/2010 5:43:01 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: MrEdd

Don’t you think they will be less enthusiatic about their smooching with the Dems —at least for a while?


100 posted on 08/27/2010 9:50:16 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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