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Report: Victims of Massacre in Mexico Were Illegal Immigrants on Way to US (Video)
breitbart.tv ^ | 8-27-10

Posted on 08/27/2010 2:19:28 PM PDT by Justaham

The over 70 victims dumped in a mass grave in Mexico were all migrant workers heading to the US, according to the sole survivor.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.tv ...


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: aliens; drugcartels; failedstate; mexico; organizedcrime; theykilltheirown; zetas

1 posted on 08/27/2010 2:19:30 PM PDT by Justaham
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To: Justaham

Pretty sad when messican drug lords do a better job of keeping our border secure than our own president.


2 posted on 08/27/2010 2:20:35 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Justaham

Has our buddy Presidente Calderon, who lectured us on our immigration policy, expessed an opinion on this incident?


3 posted on 08/27/2010 2:21:27 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Justaham
"The over 70 victims dumped in a mass grave in Mexico were all migrant workers heading to the US, according to the sole survivor."

Mexicans as usual, doing the work Americans refuse to do--i.e. stopping illegals from crossing our borders.

vaudine

4 posted on 08/27/2010 2:22:27 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: pnh102

Cute. So you admire folks who go and shoot a bunch of poor people who were fleeing leftist dictatorships in South America?

When you have to flee the US, I hope you’ll remember this.


5 posted on 08/27/2010 2:23:05 PM PDT by livius
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To: Justaham

what kind of outrage would there have been if they were murdered in the US?


6 posted on 08/27/2010 2:23:30 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: SharpRightTurn

Agree. Maybe Presidente Calderon should focus more on his own country rather than meddling with immigration issues in the US.


7 posted on 08/27/2010 2:25:28 PM PDT by Justaham
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To: martinidon

The MSMs will have a field day and proclaim World War III.


8 posted on 08/27/2010 2:26:15 PM PDT by Justaham
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To: livius

Livius, there are legal ways to leave leftist dictatorships.

What you don’t appear to understand, is that those people who come over the border are the very people that can’t even qualify for jobs in their own countries. They are usually the dregs of their societies.

I have that confirmed by friends and family living in that region.

These same illegals were illegal in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, etc. as they illegally came up toward us.

We can only hope news gets out about this to prevent problems throughout the entire area south of our border.

Get real.


9 posted on 08/27/2010 2:31:22 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: livius
When you have to flee the US, I hope you’ll remember this.

It may be a while before we have to flee the US but I know many who are leaving voluntarily now.

I'm considering buying a place in Boquete, Panama. Yes, it's Panama but it's better than Obama's USA.

10 posted on 08/27/2010 2:31:34 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: Justaham

My theory is that both governments are allowing the situation to fester until mexicans can be given refugee status. That will produce a new flood and also make it easier to legalize the ones here, adding to the dem voter base and speeding the U.S. to 3rd world status, the goal of Imam Hussein’s Agenda.


11 posted on 08/27/2010 2:41:06 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (islam is as islam does: http://blockthemosque.com/)
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To: ConservativeMind

There are 70 some odd dead people.

And you want to call it “border protection” and some sort of warning to others attempting to come here.

You get real.

Livius is right.

Those people tried to come here because WE don’t secure our borders. If our borders were secure it never would have happened - and what happened was terribly wrong and not to be celebrated. The only warning is in time it may apply to all of us if we don’t get our house in order.


12 posted on 08/27/2010 2:42:31 PM PDT by DB
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To: ConservativeMind

A story yesterday stated that the Mexican Drug Lords demanded that the migrants work as Assassins in the US. They refused. That was reported from the only survivor. If true it just demonstrates is that the War with Mexican Drug Lords is escalating in a big way. They are now trying to turn migrants into killers. Definitely not good news for the border.


13 posted on 08/27/2010 2:44:37 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: DB

And none of the other countries secured their borders either, all along the way?

All except the Mexicans among them were illegal even in Mexico.

I don’t cry over people paying drug gangs thousands of dollars so that they, too, can commit further crimes.

Livius and you are both WRONG. Live with it and get some ‘nads.


14 posted on 08/27/2010 2:45:56 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: South40

I have a second home in Colombia. Enjoy it greatly here. Other home is in Broward county Florida which is almost in the USA.


15 posted on 08/27/2010 2:46:52 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: DB; ConservativeMind
Neither the US government nor the Mexican government advertise how dangerous the border regions are, so people try to cross and get killed.

This is not new, but it is the fault of both Calderon and Obama.

16 posted on 08/27/2010 2:48:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: justa-hairyape
“They are now trying to turn migrants into killers.”

Who do you think has been kidnapping hundreds of people a year in Phoenix? US citizens?

You need to get real, too.

17 posted on 08/27/2010 2:50:29 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: livius

Flee? Flee? They’ll bury me where i stand.


18 posted on 08/27/2010 2:51:13 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: muawiyah

Again, that might just be the silver lining from the massacre.


19 posted on 08/27/2010 2:51:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: justa-hairyape

I recall not too long ago reading stories about drug lords taking over a ranch in Texas and the cops not knowing what to do about it.
Assassins? By spreading disease maybe? Not everything we read is true.


20 posted on 08/27/2010 2:53:29 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: ConservativeMind

It was members of the Drug Cartels doing the kidnapping. IE - Gang members. Why are you defending the actions of Mexican Drug Cartels ?


21 posted on 08/27/2010 2:54:05 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

I’m for any entity that puts a stop to criminal actions.

And you?


22 posted on 08/27/2010 2:57:07 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: pnh102

What you said bump.


23 posted on 08/27/2010 2:58:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: wiggen
Not everything we read is true.

That part of the story got dropped real fast. It was not on the Arab news report that Breibart linked. It should be obvious that these poor migrants did not have the money the Drug Lords demanded. Just look at the image of them blindfolded, hands behind their backs and dead piled across the ground. They were poor. They probably were given the choice to pay for their trip through the Zeta controlled area by mulling drugs or killing Mexican Drug Cartel targets. There have already been reports of young illiterate Mexican kids from Juarez being brought into America for killing. Another report stated that one Drug Gang in Mexico was using attractive women as assassins within Mexico.

24 posted on 08/27/2010 3:00:47 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Justaham

70 jobs “saved or created” for AMERICANS.


25 posted on 08/27/2010 3:01:21 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: ConservativeMind

Not for mass executions. Would rather have a secure border.


26 posted on 08/27/2010 3:01:54 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: SharpRightTurn
Has our buddy Presidente Calderon, who lectured us on our immigration policy, expessed an opinion on this incident?

Let's predict: he'll accuse U.S. gunmakers.

27 posted on 08/27/2010 3:03:19 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB, June 9, 2010)
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To: Justaham

WHY were these people killed?

Don’t the gangsters get paid AFTER they bring the II’s across the border?


28 posted on 08/27/2010 3:11:48 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Justaham

Hey if they were coming here legally they would still be alive,I guess they missed the part of NOT being wanted here.


29 posted on 08/27/2010 3:13:05 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: ConservativeMind

You don’t know they paid anyone to end up murdered.

You’ve lost your humanity.

I’ll guess you’ll have to live with that.

As far as “nads” go, you’re welcome to come say that to my face.


30 posted on 08/27/2010 3:43:47 PM PDT by DB
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To: DB

So, you trust that illegals who paid coyotes (who pay either the Zetas or the Gulf Cartel for passage rights) to ferry them into the US were coming here to not commit crimes (of course, aside from the crime of entering a country illegally)?

Interesting. And do you consider yourself to be “politically conservative” and not an “open border” supporter?


31 posted on 08/27/2010 4:02:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Justaham

As much as I loathe, detest, and despise illegal aliens of ANY ethnicity, I would not wish this outcome on any human being.

Mexico is rapidly devolving into a narco-state, reminiscent of Columbia in the late 80’s. Not a good thing when they’re sitting on our southern border, actively encouraging Mexicans to violate our immigration law by crossing illegally into the US. It’s going to get a whole lot worse before it gets even marinally better.


32 posted on 08/27/2010 4:04:14 PM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: South40

When my wife and I got married (she is originally Panamanian, but now a proud US citizen, with two step children in the US military (one of them to be soon back in Afghanistan)), we spent our honeymoon in Chiriqui province in the area that includes Boquete.

That part of Panama is great (just don’t head for Darien in the south). Some people call it the “Switzerland” of Panama. Don’t miss the flower festival.

My father-in-law (he is now 85) was in Panama (the city) when the US invaded in 1989. He was educated in the US (Missouri). In fact, his father, who was a not-rich farmer in Santiago, sent all 11 of his children to be educated in the US.

Noriega had a “Dignity Battalion” headquarters down the street. The US military set up a guard post near it, so they did not try to cause trouble and infiltrate back.

On New Year’s day, Raul (my father-in-law) spent much of his time going back and forth to their post to keep the US soldiers updated on the most recent scores in the bowl games.

As a result of that invasion, that country is heading to being the Central American version of the “Asian powerhouses”. Mr Bush has done some things I did not agree with, but the events in Panama are not among them.

When my stepdaughter was married in Panama (to a Canadian), we were driving to the reception. My wife made the comment that the invasion was one of the best things that had ever happened to Panama. (She knew Noriega personally, and said he was one of the most detestable individuals she had ever known.)

The total silence from our Canadian friends in the back seat was remarkable.


33 posted on 08/27/2010 4:06:50 PM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: ConservativeMind

Defending the murder of unarmed men, women and children is not the high moral ground no matter how hard you try.

Conservatives don’t justify murder because it inadvertently gets the results they seek - a stop to illegal immigration. I take it you’ve heard of that thing called “the ends don’t justify the means” thing? And when people start justifying immoral means to get the ends they seek they become inhuman - and become capable of great evil.

Ring a bell. I hope so.

Now bugger off.


34 posted on 08/27/2010 4:38:35 PM PDT by DB
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To: DB

So, when the collective monies from the coyotes are given to the drug cartels doing the murdering, coupled with the additional monies the illegals may give to save their own lives once they realize they are in jeopardy, do you not think these same murdered illegals helped kill others?

Bugger off yourself. I have no compassion for criminals seeking to commit more crimes. When a criminal takes out another criminal, I don’t cry.


35 posted on 08/27/2010 4:42:13 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

I rest my case.


36 posted on 08/27/2010 5:05:59 PM PDT by DB
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To: livius
So you admire folks who go and shoot a bunch of poor people who were fleeing leftist dictatorships in South America?

Yes. And had these people made it to our border and attempted to cross it illegally, I would have had no problems with them being gunned down by the Border Patrol or by other means. We have enough illegals infesting this country. We do not need any more.

37 posted on 08/27/2010 5:35:02 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
“Pretty sad when messican drug lords do a better job of keeping our border secure than our own president.”

Make that plural, “PRESIDENTS”, this has been going on for YEARS. We have the laws.. we just need someone who will enforce the existing laws.
[No one deserves to be gunned down like that and who knows what these people were told.] If someone had the balls to enforce the laws and the hell with the voter backlash, these might not have taken place, if we had secure borders.

38 posted on 08/29/2010 9:18:21 AM PDT by Gimme
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