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EPA Surrenders to NRA on Gun Control Issue
US News & World Report ^ | 27 August 2010 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 08/27/2010 6:26:49 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi

In a swift and unexpected decision, the Environmental Protection Agency today rejected a petition from environmental groups to ban the use of lead in bullets and shotgun shells, claiming it doesn't have jurisdiction to weigh on the controversial Second Amendment issue. The decision came just hours after the Drudge Report posted stories from Washington Whispers and the Weekly Standard about how gun groups were fighting the lead bullet ban.

The EPA had planned to solicit public responses to the petition for two months, but this afternoon issued a statement rejecting a 100-page request from the Center for Biological Diversity, the American Bird Conservancy, and three other groups for a ban on lead bullets, shot, and fishing sinkers. The agency is still considering what to do about sinkers.

(Excerpt) Read more at politics.usnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ammo; banglist; bullets; donttreadonme; epa; lead; leadbulletban; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed
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They were unable to incite violence, so they cancelled the ban.
1 posted on 08/27/2010 6:26:53 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

Ban the EPA!


2 posted on 08/27/2010 6:28:59 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (We are our founding fathers keepers)
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To: Erik Latranyi

AMEN


3 posted on 08/27/2010 6:29:10 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: Erik Latranyi
WoW this is rare.

Government with an endless money supply gives in. I don't get it.

4 posted on 08/27/2010 6:29:49 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Government with an endless money supply gives in. I don't get it.

Check six.

5 posted on 08/27/2010 6:31:17 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

How biased is this? Ammo is controversial now? did the EPA Cite the influence of the NRA or did they cite the Hazardous materials act which exempts Ammo?


6 posted on 08/27/2010 6:32:07 PM PDT by omega4179 (Thank you for a good run JD!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
This issue had nothing to do with the environment, it has more to do with the left trying to undermine our 2nd amendment rights.
These envirowackos forget, there is plenty of natural lead in the ground that is there naturally, and is in far more quantity than that of bullets.
7 posted on 08/27/2010 6:32:33 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Pure politics. This issue was going to hurt Comrade Barky very badly and odds are good he told Lisa Jackson and the EPA dolts to pull the plug on this, pronto.
8 posted on 08/27/2010 6:33:52 PM PDT by JPG (How much taxpayer $ did Mookie blow today?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

What the heck is the center for biological diversity??? Ensure minority microbes get equal time?


9 posted on 08/27/2010 6:34:12 PM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lurker
Right!

Sniff...sniff...

Not sure what that smell is........

10 posted on 08/27/2010 6:34:33 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: Lurker

Next stop SCOTUS, just like CO2.


11 posted on 08/27/2010 6:35:50 PM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Nice of US News to admit that banning lead projectiles is about gun control.


12 posted on 08/27/2010 6:36:14 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Newton
What the heck is the center for biological diversity???

Ya know, gay penguins and all that...

13 posted on 08/27/2010 6:36:15 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles
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To: ronnie raygun

The EPA knows they are on our target list of useless government agencies to eliminate.


14 posted on 08/27/2010 6:38:09 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: ronnie raygun
Ban the EPA!

No kidding, their ability to make law usurps Congressional authority and they should be eliminated as Unconstitutional.

15 posted on 08/27/2010 6:40:17 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I think they backed down because of the strongly worded comment I left at their web site today!


16 posted on 08/27/2010 6:41:41 PM PDT by RingerSIX
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To: Erik Latranyi

I believe Zero saw that he was going to be in deep crap over this one. I discussed this with our state NRA Field Representstive today. He told me the NRA was planning a massive P-R campaign on this issue. The GOP can learn a lot from the NRA.


17 posted on 08/27/2010 6:42:58 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I think you’re on to something


18 posted on 08/27/2010 6:43:06 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Good thing many of us stocked up on new firearms, ammunition, and related gear (or, were already well-equipped).

THEY are afraid of us, and RIGHTLY so.

Though the anti-American left (progressives, liberals, socialists, communists, etc.) have raped and pillaged our freedoms and treasure, it would be infinitely worse IF we were not armed and had our 2nd Amendment rights (our founders were very wise men).

They, the far-left scum now running our country, KNOW that it was when the Brits tried to seize our weapons and ammunition, THAT is what sparked full-fledged armed resistance.

MILLIONS of us a ready and willing to stand up for freedom against a tyrannical government if need be.

Hopefully, this will not be necessary, but let it be known that we citizens are keeping our powder dry.

19 posted on 08/27/2010 6:46:13 PM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Ah.... those alternative life style penguins! I suppose they support gay penguin marriage too.


20 posted on 08/27/2010 6:46:59 PM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Erik Latranyi

1. The NRA did not do this.

2. The EPA would still be pushing for such a ban, except the Dems are afraid for their political life now.

3. If you think they will abandon this type of legislation, you are mistaken. It is on temporary hold.

4. The only cure for this crap is to vote the Dems out of office and hunt the subversive individuals down and punish them.

It is TIME to DownSize DC!

Eliminate entire departments (Education, EPA, etc)

Force Congress and the Senate to telecommute most of the year from their home district. Under the thumb of the electorate and away from the lobbyists. Imagine the cost savings and it would totally change the center-of-gravity of the Federal Government.

IT IS TIME!


21 posted on 08/27/2010 6:48:16 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

They got CAUGHT so they Cancelling the BAN til they can HIDE IT BETTER


22 posted on 08/27/2010 6:50:42 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Enough of Obama's Recovery ... Can I have my Bush Recession Back??)
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To: Erik Latranyi

It also was a politically savvy move to take gun control off the table as the Democrats ready for a very difficult midterm election.”

I read the NRA’s letter to the EPA at their website and I’m convinced what the petitioners were requesting would not hold up in court. Having said that, there’s no doubt that wasn’t the reason the public comment period was closed and the entire idea dropped. This is very strange as the EPA had to think this was a legitimate request when they moved forward with a public comment period just weeks ago. The WH panicked as they knew this was going to blow up in their face in the weeks leading up to an election where they’re going to get rolled as it is.

Look for something similar to this down the road with this administration. I think they’re going to continue to pursue the ammunition angle.


23 posted on 08/27/2010 6:56:11 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: gwilhelm56

It’s a wonder it’s not in the ObamaCare boondoggle.


24 posted on 08/27/2010 6:56:48 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Government with an endless money supply gives in. I don't get it.

The "gun" issue got the Dems thrown out last time ... it's a third rail issue for them and they know it. All we did today was bring it to people's attention. A moment to be proud of vigilance and action.

25 posted on 08/27/2010 7:06:04 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (If you aren't at Obama's Table, you are probably on the MENU! - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Thank goodness.

But you can bet the issue isn't dead.

If there is one thing the Devil doesn't do it's quit.

26 posted on 08/27/2010 7:06:12 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: RingerSIX

I think they backed down because of the strongly worded comment I left at their web site today!

*************

In part.

The finale in “V” comes to mind.


27 posted on 08/27/2010 7:06:35 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (If you must reach across the aisle, make sure you are holding a cutlass.)
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To: Texas Fossil

It is TIME to DownSize DC!

*************

Agreed. It has become adversarial to liberty and prosperity, principally due to bad policy, but partly due to sheer scale.


28 posted on 08/27/2010 7:08:45 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (If you must reach across the aisle, make sure you are holding a cutlass.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
"This issue had nothing to do with the environment, it has more to do with the left trying to undermine our 2nd amendment rights."

Control.

That's what every bit of the environmental hysteria is about.

This is simply their angle on using that excuse as the backdoor way of going after personal gun ownership:

"Have all the guns you want. Oh, but it's illegal to have ammo."

29 posted on 08/27/2010 7:10:05 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Erik Latranyi

Wave that white flag you bunch of &^%&*)($#


30 posted on 08/27/2010 7:10:59 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I personally think they heard the faint shaking of a rattle on the end of a tail, and due to Obamacare, there wouldn’t be enough anti-venom to survive pressing further.


31 posted on 08/27/2010 7:11:35 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Erik Latranyi

I can see the fishing sinkers, and maybe there is a better alternative to lead.

As far as projectiles, lead is the proper metal such purposes.


32 posted on 08/27/2010 7:15:08 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: neverdem

ping


33 posted on 08/27/2010 7:16:24 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Psalm 144

>>The finale in “V” comes to mind.

I was watching those, but I missed some, and didn’t see the finale. (The new version) They were pretty good. Better than the original I thought.


34 posted on 08/27/2010 7:17:18 PM PDT by RingerSIX
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To: Texas Fossil

>> 3. If you think they will abandon this type of legislation, you are mistaken. It is on temporary hold.

Exactly. And as the article describes, it’s about gun control, not ‘the environment’.


35 posted on 08/27/2010 7:18:16 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Gene Eric

Thanks for the ping. I enjoy reading all the paranoid comments when it’s the rats who are paranoid. The rats know gun control is a loser. They gave up on it in 2006. They took back the Congress in 2006.


36 posted on 08/27/2010 8:01:35 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

If these enviros ever come close to getting something
like this, we need to make them include wheel weighs
too. Try and drive now greenies, yep you’ll like
having to stay under 30 mph.


37 posted on 08/27/2010 8:08:07 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

This was simply a trial balloon. They didn’t expect the rise it got. It will be back.


38 posted on 08/27/2010 8:09:43 PM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: eyedigress

IIRC I read something quite awhile ago that vaguely pops up in the ol’ brain cells that Congress at the time of the establishment of the EPA I believe during the Nixon Administration actually created language that allows the EPA to make laws on Congress’s behalf (IOW to speak for Congress), so they (Congress) wouldn’t be bothered with the daily activities of a bureau they don’t even understand to begin with.

Going by memory here. NOT the most reliable one at that ;)


39 posted on 08/27/2010 8:22:23 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Gun Control Issue”

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Correctly identified.

US News is, in the galaxy of liberal media, better than some.


40 posted on 08/27/2010 8:24:19 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (posting handle made more sense, back before CNN became a shoe-shine stand...)
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To: ronnie raygun

Defund the EPA


41 posted on 08/27/2010 8:49:06 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Psalm 144

They can have all my lead. I will gladly give it to them one shot at a time.


42 posted on 08/27/2010 8:51:07 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The agency is still considering what to do about sinkers.

Those will work just fine outta my smokepole. Not very accurate, so those boys need to step a bit closer.

43 posted on 08/27/2010 9:00:57 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Quite simple, really. Think November 2 and getting Democrats re-elected.


44 posted on 08/27/2010 9:11:02 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: omega4179

It’s election season.

Don’t piss off the gun nut / eager voters anymore than they have to.

Us gun nuts are easy to rile and vote.


45 posted on 08/27/2010 9:18:46 PM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Something isn't right. The EPA website does NOT say it denied the petition.

http://www.epa.gov/oppt/chemtest/pubs/petitions.html

Something is fishy...

46 posted on 08/27/2010 9:48:02 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: Erik Latranyi

As my wife would say, the White House Marxists want to incite civil unrest in order to use force to put it down as a warning!


47 posted on 08/27/2010 9:50:07 PM PDT by Stayfree (god help u)
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To: Erik Latranyi

As my wife would say, the White House Marxists want to incite civil unrest in order to use force to put it down as a warning!


48 posted on 08/27/2010 9:50:18 PM PDT by Stayfree (god help u)
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To: screaminsunshine

The EPA is definitely on our hit parade for government elimination!


49 posted on 08/27/2010 9:52:14 PM PDT by Stayfree (god help u)
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To: ronnie raygun

Ban the EPA , join the NRA !

I’m sure the local NRA naysayers aren’t too pleased with this .We will hear how it was the GOA that did this ...in 3..2..1


50 posted on 08/27/2010 10:32:03 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Please support Michelle Bachmann, we need her ! Donate directly and to the NRCC)
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