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US To Sell Israel Massive Military Fuel Stocks Worth $2 Billion
Debkafile ^ | August 28, 2010, 12:53 PM (GMT+02:00)

Posted on 08/28/2010 2:55:29 PM PDT by dselig

On Aug. 6, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency, DSCA, informed Congress of the sale to Israel of 60 million gallons of unleaded gasoline, 284 million gallons of JP-8 aviation jet fuel and 100 million gallons of diesel fuel at an estimated cost of two billion dollars.

The date is significant, intelligence sources find. Ten days earlier, the Japanese tanker M.Star was attacked in Omani waters of the Strait of Hormuz with 200,000 tons of oil.

Although American experts who examined the vessel, they never attributed the damage to sabotage by Iran or al Qaeda, despite the latter's claim of responsibility on Aug. 4 While Washington did its best to sweep the incident under the rug, Saudi intelligence were worried enough about the threat inching dangerously close to the Gulf's oil exporting lifeline to launch an independent investigation of the incident.

Their investigators discovered it was staged by a Saudi terrorist who operates out of Iran under the orders of the Revolutionary Guards.

To Riyadh, the episode looked like a blunt warning from Tehran to Washington and its allies about the consequences - not just of a direct strike against Iran's nuclear facilities, but the possibility of sanctions upsetting the equilibrium of the Islamic regime.

Blockage of the Strait of Hormuz would cut off Israel's primary source of fuel.

Therefore, our sources report, a series of accords, some of them secret, have been transacted to back up America's standing commitment to keep Israel supplied with its energy needs in the event of armed conflict or crisis on world fuel markets.

In its request to Congress to approve the sale, the DSCA noted: "The proposed sale of the JP-B aviation fuel will enable Israel to maintain the operational capability of its aircraft inventory. The unleaded gasoline and diesel fuel will be used for ground forces' vehicles and other equipment used in keeping peace and security in the region. Israel will have no difficulty absorbing this additional fuel into its armed forces."

Israel is therefore ready and able to absorb this huge injection of military-purpose fuels.

Tehran published its response through an item on the Tabanak Website on Saturday, Aug. 28.

It was headlined in large capitals: ISRAEL ORDERS MASSIVE MLITARY FUEL STOCKS FAR IN EXCESS OF THAT REQUIRED FOR NORMAL OPERATIONS. Our Iranian sources report that this site belongs to Mohsen Rezaei, ex-commander of the Revolutionary Guards and much respected in the highest Iranian military and intelligence circles.

The Iranian site goes on to cite bloggers' comments, the most quoted of which comes from an anonymous ex-US Air Force officer, who wrote on Aug. 27:

"I explained, as I have in the past, how it would be necessary for the US to supply the massive amounts of fuel need for such a [-n Israeli] strike. If Israel were to strike Iran, Israel would only require the massive amounts of jet fuel and over a billion litres of jet fuel would be more that enough to do the job in practical terms."

According to military experts, the shelf life of JP-8 jet fuel is not long - no more than six to eight months.


TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: debka; iran; israel; japan; oman; straitofhormuz; waronterror

1 posted on 08/28/2010 2:55:31 PM PDT by dselig
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To: dselig

Good News!


2 posted on 08/28/2010 3:00:45 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Barbour 2012)
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To: Artemis Webb

Get the logistical support ready before attacking.


3 posted on 08/28/2010 3:04:24 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: dselig

I wonder if JP-8 can be recycled as diesel?

I worked for a company once that had two small refineries and produced most of the military jet fuel used in Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and New Mexico. We used the stock in our rigs, trucks and my car... it made GREAT diesel!


4 posted on 08/28/2010 3:05:14 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: dselig; SLB
On top of this, I saw an article on Drudge a few days ago where a UN inspector stated that Iran now had enough nuclear material for one, possibly two, nuclear bombs.

If they can assemble them, I think their most probable course of action would be to hand these weapons over to one of their sponsored terrorist groups (most likely Hezbullah) with orders to sneak them into Israel and detonate them. These weapons would not have to be sleak and compact like most other nations' nukes, as they will likely be carried to their targets in the backs of trucks or vans.

Likely targets would be Tel Aviv and Haifa, although they risk damaging Jerusalem due to the fact that it is the most populous city in Israel. Even if they don't hit Jerusalem, the death toll could easily top one million. (it makes my stomach churn just thinking about it)

I wonder how the rest of the muslim world would react to a nuclear conflict between Israel and Iran? I know that a lot of them would love to see Israel wiped off the face of the Earth, but would they risk nuclear attack by backing Iran if they do succeed in hitting Israel with nukes?

5 posted on 08/28/2010 3:08:33 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Put your trust in God; but mind to keep your powder dry. - Oliver Cromwell)
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To: dselig
The clock starts after Israel has taken full delivery.
6 posted on 08/28/2010 3:11:02 PM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Hand out pocket Constitutions to everyone you can")
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To: dselig; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie
I'm no math whiz... but that is 384 million gallons for 2 billion bucks comes out to nearly $5.21 a gallon. If true, sounds like Øbama is screwing the Jews again--!
7 posted on 08/28/2010 3:19:45 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: dselig
What the heck??!!

As our sole true supporter in the War on Terror ans being the frontline in this war, Israel should NOT be sold this fuel at all!!

It should have been given to them freely with no strings attached!!

8 posted on 08/28/2010 3:24:42 PM PDT by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: dselig
This will cause a raise in fuel prices her because we are not allowed to process enough fuel with our Enviornutzies. We need more refineries and Israel has oil now so they need refineries also.
9 posted on 08/28/2010 3:28:22 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Stonewall, aren’t you getting a little ahead of yourself. Wouldn’t you want to test the devices first to make sure that they worked? Even North Korea does that.


10 posted on 08/28/2010 3:45:00 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Sequoyah101

Maybe my fuel knowledge is old hat but IIRC, JP-4 and JP-5 are aviation fuels (what we put in our UH-1H aircraft).

I’m long since off flight status but in my ground unit we fuel our HUMMVs, trucks, HEMMTs and field stoves with nothing but JP-8 for years now. It initially caused problems as the solvent additives in JP-8 were flushing all the fuel tank rust particles into the fuel filters and clogging them.

Anyway, this massive fuel transfer to the IDF says things vis-a-vis Iran are ready to smoke, sooner rather than later JMHO.


11 posted on 08/28/2010 4:10:51 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I didn’t say these guys were the brightest in the world. Besides, if they have some of Pakistan’s nuclear scientists (which the CIA claims they do) they might think that such tests are not necessary.


12 posted on 08/28/2010 5:06:31 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Put your trust in God; but mind to keep your powder dry. - Oliver Cromwell)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Using it IS the test... good enough for the 12th Imam


13 posted on 08/28/2010 5:43:34 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
“I wonder how the rest of the muslim world would react to a nuclear conflict between Israel and Iran?”

Except for Iran's allies Syria, Hezbollah, & Hamas, I would expect the local muslim reactions to be a mix of glee & fear.

Glee because 2 Sunni enemies, Shia Iran & Israel are destroying each other. Fear of a widening of the war to engulf them & fallout that might be a nightmare.

I would expect no Sunni muslim nation to side with Iran. They could not assist in a nuclear war, & only add themselves to an Israeli target list. Pakistan would not expend its nuclear arsenal with arch enemy India next door. Saudi Arabia is forever neutered for fear Mecca & Medina will become huge glass parking lots with a gigantic hole in the middle. Turkey would be limited by NATO.

As for Iran's allies mentioned above, this is an especially crazy lot. I expect many of these fools to rush into Israel to “reclaim Palestine”, only to die of radiation poisoning. A particularly fitting end for them, I think, & another Middle East problem solved. Beyond that fantasy, a mortally wounded Israel might opt to nuke all its enemies, & I wouldn't blame them.

14 posted on 08/28/2010 5:47:30 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da
a mortally wounded Israel might opt to nuke all its enemies

I've considered this and think that there is a real possibility that it might happen. If (Heaven forbid) Iran succeeds in nuking Israel and kills upwards of one million people, Israel will be sorely wounded, but not killed. They might therefore fear that some of the other muslim nations, primarily Syria, Egypt, Libya, and Saudi Arabia (who all have chemical weapons and some have biological weapon stockpiles) would take the opportunity to finish them off while they are crippled.

15 posted on 08/28/2010 6:03:52 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Put your trust in God; but mind to keep your powder dry. - Oliver Cromwell)
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To: Stonewall Jackson
If they can assemble them, I think their most probable course of action would be to hand these weapons over to one of their sponsored terrorist groups (most likely Hezbullah) with orders to sneak them into Israel and detonate them. These weapons would not have to be sleak and compact like most other nations' nukes, as they will likely be carried to their targets in the backs of trucks or vans.

If that happens then I pray that Israel nukes Mecca/Medina/Qom to wipe out the Islamic curse forever. Any other Iranian and Muslim targets they want to nuke are fine by me. Israel will repay Iran and other Muslims 20 times over what an Iranian nuke does to Israel.

16 posted on 08/28/2010 6:36:44 PM PDT by dennisw (2012)
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To: dennisw
How about the Aswan High Dam? Can you imagine 132 cubic kilometers of water rushing down the Nile? Even though Cairo is several hundred miles downriver, that wall of water would still be devastating.
17 posted on 08/28/2010 7:21:27 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Put your trust in God; but mind to keep your powder dry. - Oliver Cromwell)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Egypt won’t be nuking Israel but I would at least consider the Aswan dam just to make it a real Samson option and ruin the Muslim world to the fullest extent. In retaliation of course. The Muzzies get in the first blow then Israel destroys the Islamic religion by nuking every Muslim holy city and holy shrine. Population centers too. Military installations. Nuke South Lebanon and Hezbollah.

Leave the oil intact for the rest of the world to scoop up and intelligently exploit. The world will appreciate all this from the Jews and Israel can be rebuilt after the radiation dies down

The key to rebuilding Israel is that Jerusalem is left intact and I think it will be because the Muzzzies consider it holy in their own dementoid way


18 posted on 08/28/2010 7:38:51 PM PDT by dennisw (2012)
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To: dennisw

muslims won’t care about nuking Jerusalem. dome of the rock and al aqsa will be wiped clean, revealing the foundations of the temple and maybe . . .

“Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm.” Rev 11:19


19 posted on 08/28/2010 8:13:02 PM PDT by naturalized
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To: Bender2

JP-8 ain’t cheap.


20 posted on 08/28/2010 8:26:07 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

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21 posted on 08/28/2010 8:44:58 PM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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"I explained, as I have in the past, how it would be necessary for the US to supply the massive amounts of fuel need for such a [-n Israeli] strike. If Israel were to strike Iran, Israel would only require the massive amounts of jet fuel and over a billion litres of jet fuel would be more that enough to do the job in practical terms."
A billion litres would be more than enough -- that's an understatement. Thanks dselig.
22 posted on 08/28/2010 9:02:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: DownInFlames

Get the logistics in order before being cut off by the Obama administration after the attack. They need enough to help survive the next 2 years.


23 posted on 08/28/2010 11:41:52 PM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: elcid1970

IIRC they are currently using JP-8 for all aircraft and diesel. A special additive is used for diesel engines.

Using only one fuel simplifies supply.

DG


24 posted on 08/29/2010 1:36:11 AM PDT by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: dselig

>>”According to military experts, the shelf life of JP-8 jet fuel is not long - no more than six to eight months.”

If this limitation is true, that would narrow the time of Israels attack on Iran to between the delivery date of the fuel, and maybe 3 months before the expiration date.

To calculate the expiration date, one must know WHEN it was produced. That would be some range of dates.

DG


25 posted on 08/29/2010 1:47:13 AM PDT by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: gogogodzilla; big'ol_freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie
RE: JP-8 ain’t cheap.

Ain't JP-8 just... kerosene on steroids?

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JP-8:

JP-8, or JP8 (for “Jet Propellant 8”) is a jet fuel, specified in 1990 by the U.S. government. It is kerosene-based. It is a replacement for the JP-4 fuel; the U.S. Air Force replaced JP-4 with JP-8 completely by the fall of 1996, to use a less flammable, less hazardous fuel for better safety and combat survivability. The U.S. Navy uses a similar formula, JP-5. JP-8 is projected to remain in use at least until 2025. It was first introduced at NATO bases in 1978. Its NATO code is F-34. It is specified by MIL-DTL-83133 and British Defence Standard 91-87.

JP-8 has a flash point of 38 °C (100 °F),[1] compared to -18 °C (0 °F) for JP-4. JP-5 has an even higher flash point of > 60 °C (140 °F), but also a higher cost, limiting its use to aircraft carriers and other situations where the danger of fire is greatest.

Outside of powering aircraft, JP-8 (or JP-5) is used as a fuel for heaters, stoves,[2] tanks,[3] by the U.S. military as a replacement for diesel fuel in the engines of nearly all tactical ground vehicles and electrical generators, and as a coolant in engines and some other aircraft components. The use of a single fuel greatly simplifies logistics.

When used in highly supercharged diesel engines with the corresponding low compression ratio of about only 14:1 or below, JP-8 causes troubles during cold start and idling due to low compression temperatures and following ignition delay because cetane index is not specified in MIL-DTL-83133G to 40 or higher. Because lubricity to the BOCLE method is not specified in MIL-DTL-83133G, modern common rail diesel engines can experience wear problems in high pressure fuel pumps and injectors because of undefined lubricity conditions of this fuel. Another problem in diesel engines can be the increased wear in outlet valve seats in the cylinder heads, because a minimum content of sulfur is not specified in MIL-DTL-83133G. Sulfur in fuels contributes normally to build up damping soot layers in these valve seats. According to the notes in this standard it is intended to install a value for the cetane index in one of the next releases.

Because it does not gel at low temperatures, JP-8 is used at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station,[citation needed] for heating, electrical generation, and melting ice for water.

Commercial aviation uses a similar mixture under the name Jet-A.

JP-8 is formulated with icing inhibitor, corrosion inhibitors, lubricants, and antistatic agents, and less benzene (a carcinogen) and less n-hexane (a neurotoxin) than JP-4. However, it also smells stronger than JP-4. JP-8 has an oily feel to the touch, while JP-4 feels more like a solvent. Workers have complained of smelling and tasting JP-8 for hours after exposure. As JP-8 is less volatile, it remains on the contaminated surfaces for longer time, increasing the risk of exposure.[4]

JP-8+100 is a version of JP-8 with an additive that increases its thermal stability by 56°C (100°F). The additive is a combination of a surfactant, metal deactivator, and an antioxidant, and was introduced in 1994 to reduce coking and fouling in engine fuel systems. Commercially, this additive is used in Boeing aircraft operated by KLM, and in police helicopters in Tampa, Florida.[citation needed] JP-8+100 is also used for Canadian CF-18 Hornets.

Whoa! Who... would have thought?

But over 5 bucks a gallon... is still too friggin' high!

26 posted on 08/29/2010 3:09:49 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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