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ABC News: 'Hundreds of Thousands' At Restoring Honor Rally; Palin Chides AP's 'Tens of Thousands'
Saturday, August 28, 2010 | Kristinn

Posted on 08/28/2010 3:12:16 PM PDT by kristinn

ABC News has thrown in the towel on the liberal media's efforts to downplay the huge numbers of Americans who came to the Restoring Honor rally held today at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C. by radio and TV host Glenn Beck.

The subheadline of an online report at ABCNews.com reads: Restoring Honor Rally at Sight of MLK's 'I Have a Dream' Speech Draws Hundreds of Thousands of People

Sarah Palin, speaking to Politico during an impromptu interview at Reagan National Airport after her speech at the rally chided the Associated Press for lowballing the monster crowd:

Holding her BlackBerry up with one hand, she lamented that the Associated Press had only pegged attendance as "tens of thousands."

Asked if there were more than 100,000 people there, Palin said: "Oh yeah."

Photo facing West from the top of the Washington Monument.

Photo facing East toward the Washington Monument from 17th, NW, six blocks from the Lincoln Memorial.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ap4alqaeda; ap4dnc; ap4whitehouse; beck; dncflak; dncprrep; fauxapnews; glennbeck; lds; mormon; restoringhonor; sarahpalin; whitehouseflak; whitehouseprrep
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1 posted on 08/28/2010 3:12:19 PM PDT by kristinn
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2 posted on 08/28/2010 3:13:07 PM PDT by jimbo123
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Glenn will have an accurate (ballpark) figure from National Park Service Monday morning. That’s about as close as they can really get.


3 posted on 08/28/2010 3:16:33 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Tucker39

IIRC, from the Tea Party rally last year, the NPS doesn’t normally provide figures. They might give some (as you state) ballpark figure based on non-statistical observation, but that’s all. I doubt there’s any way one can closely estimate the number attending.

But the photos speak for themselves.


4 posted on 08/28/2010 3:19:02 PM PDT by bcsco (From Recovery Summer to The Winter of our Discontent...)
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To: Tucker39

You can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the National Park Service got out of the mall attendance game after the 6-mill man march.


5 posted on 08/28/2010 3:20:13 PM PDT by ratzoe (damn, I miss Barbara Olson)
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To: bcsco

As Glenn said on his Friday morning radio show, they count the number of buses and extrapolate from there. It ain’t what a CPA would do, but it’s close enough for our purposes.


6 posted on 08/28/2010 3:21:01 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Tucker39
I don't think the National Park Service gives estimates anymore, but this chart will help. I was there and based on my observations and the pictures I've seen, 500k is a safe bet.
7 posted on 08/28/2010 3:22:04 PM PDT by KevinB
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To: kristinn

THANK YOU! Amazing!


8 posted on 08/28/2010 3:23:39 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: Tucker39
they count the number of buses and extrapolate from there

Doesn't work if Ray Nagin is in charge of busses.

9 posted on 08/28/2010 3:23:53 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: kristinn

closer to a million...


10 posted on 08/28/2010 3:24:07 PM PDT by dalebert (true hillbilly)
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To: kristinn

Awesome rally! The LSM can’t spin everything anymore.

One sore spot is still the top-of-the-hour ABC news radio update. They mentioned the huge crowd, and played a clip of Dr. King’s niece speaking out against racism, then they mentioned Sarah praising our military heroes.

But right after that they said “Conservative commentator Glenn Beck also spoke to a crowd of right-wingers at the same location”, trying to imply that it was a separate event.

The dinosaur media are desperate. Keep up the good fight!


11 posted on 08/28/2010 3:24:20 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: kristinn
AP tipped their hat today and proved they are biased. This is from its report on the Obama pre-inaug concert at the Lincoln Memorial: (bold added for emphasis)

WASHINGTON — Under the gaze of Abraham Lincoln's imposing statue, Bruce Springsteen belted out "Come on up for the rising," a martial band right below him, a gospel choir right behind him. Flags were everywhere.

It was a signature snapshot of rock, race and tradition intermingled, just one piece of Americana on Sunday as some of the biggest names in show business commanded the marbled sweep of the Lincoln Memorial in front of a vast sea of people — and four dancing Obamas.

U2, Beyonce, James Taylor, Garth Brooks and Usher were among the A-list performers who served as opening acts for a president-elect ascending to the White House in two days.

Several hundred thousand people flanked the reflecting pool, filling the Mall past the World War II Memorial and back to the Washington Monument. They transformed a historical staging ground of protest into a roaring celebration....

They cheered for Obama when he asserted, "The dream of our founders will live on in our time." U.S. Park Police Chief Sal Lauro said the crowd appeared to be similar in size to the one that rang in the millennium on New Year's Eve nine years ago. An estimated 300,000 people attended that event.

Full article here: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/28721619

12 posted on 08/28/2010 3:24:36 PM PDT by The Hound Passer
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To: Tucker39

That’s about all they can do. Not all arrive by bus, and not all buses will be filled, but it’ll give some round figure. Better than what we’ll get from the media. Even the ABC figure of 100,000 is way low.


13 posted on 08/28/2010 3:24:59 PM PDT by bcsco (From Recovery Summer to The Winter of our Discontent...)
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To: kristinn

The ACORN- Standing Ovation for Calderon groups are not going to like this.

They will have to make them out to be racists.


14 posted on 08/28/2010 3:26:25 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Communities regularly fight the construction projects, Walmarts Starbucks and even tree removal.)
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To: ratzoe
You can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the National Park Service got out of the mall attendance game after the 6-mill man march.

The NPS estimated 400,000 for the MMM, and got sued to either change or retract their estimate.

So, they quit doing it, except for Obama's inauguration.

15 posted on 08/28/2010 3:26:34 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: kristinn
Great Pics! Another AP Photo (cleaned up the contrast a bit)
16 posted on 08/28/2010 3:27:49 PM PDT by Kaosinla
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To: Tucker39

What about Metro riders? Can those numbers be obtained?


17 posted on 08/28/2010 3:27:57 PM PDT by don-o
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To: kristinn

They only had a permit for 300,000. Perhaps they could offer to “pay a fine” if the Parks Service would only let them know how much they exceeded their permit?! :)


18 posted on 08/28/2010 3:29:48 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: The Hound Passer

Thanks!


19 posted on 08/28/2010 3:31:14 PM PDT by kristinn (Since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: don-o

Metro releases daily ridership numbers. But today’s will not be accurate as they opened the faregates at some stations to relieve crowding.


20 posted on 08/28/2010 3:32:35 PM PDT by kristinn (Since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: Tucker39

Park Service is NOT to be trusted.


21 posted on 08/28/2010 3:32:43 PM PDT by devane617 (November!)
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To: don-o
What about Metro riders? Can those numbers be obtained?

I don't know. I was one of them, though, and it was packed. The line to buy tickets at the Vienna metro station at 9:30 was over a mile long. Eventually, they just let everyone ride for free because they couldn't keep up. The metro was over capacity for hours after that. I did the same routine at the 09/12 rally last year and as crowded as the metro was then, it was far worse today. FWIW.

22 posted on 08/28/2010 3:33:41 PM PDT by KevinB
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To: kristinn

Headline at Huffington Toast:

BECK HAS A DREAM: Tens Of Thousands Attend Beck’s Rally, Civil Rights Leaders Protest


23 posted on 08/28/2010 3:35:32 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (They shall not pass!)
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To: kristinn

The MSM will report as follows:

“Glenn Beck’s and the Rev Al Sharpton’s rallies combined for about a million people in Washington today”.

The MSM will fail to mention Sharpton’s rally drew about 5K max and Beck had the remaining 999,500.

Sort of like the NBA player who once proudly announced he and Michael J combined for 81 points in a game. He got 4 and Michael got the other 77 or so. LOL


24 posted on 08/28/2010 3:36:27 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Dollar-A-Day Freeper (on fixed income). Join the club please.)
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To: kristinn

Maybe AP would like to multiply that tens of thousands by some 100s.


25 posted on 08/28/2010 3:38:25 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: kristinn

NBC just said “Tens, if not hundreds of thousands...”

LOL


26 posted on 08/28/2010 3:39:52 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: kristinn
Molly Henneberg on Fox News Channel just said "It's hard to estimate..." but she did, nevertheless, saying there were "tens of thousands".

Is she afraid of overestimating? Or is she just ignorant? Either way, she can't very well be called a "reporter" then. I know what my own eyes saw when I watched it online and on C-SPAN. (Plus, there were an additional 130,000+ people watching online at ustream toward the end of the rally.)

27 posted on 08/28/2010 3:40:00 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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"I doubt there is any way one can estimate....."

The other day on Glenn Becks TV show he held up a picture of the Mall. He said they have calculated that the Mall can hold 200,000 thousand people and that grassy area on the left next to it can hold another 100,000. We can also see there are people in areas to the far right.

28 posted on 08/28/2010 3:40:34 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: kristinn

They also said that participants had Anti-Obama t-shirts and signs. (even though Beck said no signs)


29 posted on 08/28/2010 3:42:26 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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WOW!......thanks for the report.....and I'm jealous!

Very cool.

30 posted on 08/28/2010 3:43:34 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: kristinn

King: “I have a dream”
Sharpton: “I want a check”


31 posted on 08/28/2010 3:44:28 PM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: arasina

you are mountainrnizing. Tens of thousands are hundreds of thousands.


32 posted on 08/28/2010 3:47:56 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: Spunky

Looks like a few more than tens of thousands. :)


33 posted on 08/28/2010 3:50:29 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: kristinn

The conversation in every MSM news outlet today has been over what the lowest number estimate they can give without looking like complete jacka$$es.


34 posted on 08/28/2010 3:52:38 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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Today was hubby’s birthday. Wish we could have gone to DC. But, we watched it on television this morning while he opened his presents. He said this was the best birthday he’s ever had. We are so proud of Glenn, Sarah Palin, and the hundreds of thousands of patriots. They represented a lot of patriots who couldn’t be there.


35 posted on 08/28/2010 3:53:50 PM PDT by dfc1
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To: Tucker39
Glenn will have an accurate (ballpark) figure from National Park Service Monday morning. That’s about as close as they can really get.

The National Park Service stopped taking crowd counts in 1995 after disputes over the count following the "Million Man March".

36 posted on 08/28/2010 3:54:29 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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I caught tail ends of NBC’s and CBS’ reports on their respective nightly news. Missed any references to crowd estimates, but NBC said Republicans won’t want to be identified with today’s event, and CBS’ Jeff Greenberg (is that his name?) said the event will have a huge impact on the November elections.

“Huge impact” is an understatement. But perhaps the MSM is finally getting the picture — they can’t downplay what is now a major and still growing movement in this country.


37 posted on 08/28/2010 3:54:46 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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I don't know. I was one of them, though, and it was packed. The line to buy tickets at the Vienna metro station at 9:30 was over a mile long.

A Freeper who was at Vienna (and left after two hours) is sending me pics. I will post them on the live thread.

38 posted on 08/28/2010 3:56:13 PM PDT by don-o
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To: bert
you are mountainrnizing. Tens of thousands are hundreds of thousands.

You could also say, "Dozens of thousands" and be "accurate". It is still downplaying and attempting to diminish the impact.
39 posted on 08/28/2010 3:56:42 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Fresh Wind

Word!


40 posted on 08/28/2010 3:57:24 PM PDT by don-o
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To: ratzoe

Yes, they did stop giving numbers after the million man march. Some people were in such a fit that apparently fewer than 1,000,000 men were there, that they wanted recounts and upgraded means of counting, etc. So they decided not to give crowd numbers at all for future events.


41 posted on 08/28/2010 3:59:05 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: netmilsmom
They also said that participants had Anti-Obama t-shirts and signs.

I didn't see a single Anti-Obama t-shirt or sign. Actually I saw very few printed t-shirts and zero signs. Lots of flags, however. There may have been a few fringe types giving out literature on the edges of the crowd.

There were a few hecklers with whistles who started up when Sarah Palin started to speak. We saw several police officers running through the aisle between barricades. The noise stopped soon. I wonder if lots of patriots took pictures of the creeps and that stopped them.

42 posted on 08/28/2010 4:03:25 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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I didn’t know obuma had 300,000 dregs of society at his inauguration.

Thanks for posting that.

I was in my basement sharpening knives.


43 posted on 08/28/2010 4:06:47 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: bert

Is 500,000 expressed as “500’s of thousands?” Or a million expressed as “thousands of thousands.”


44 posted on 08/28/2010 4:09:02 PM PDT by healy61
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To: kristinn

The only way a race whore like al sharpton or any dim politician can draw a crowd like that is to give away cars and rolexes and by the end of it you would probably have to call it a riot.


45 posted on 08/28/2010 4:09:15 PM PDT by mapmaker77
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To: healy61

Molly is a good conservative......to the bone.


46 posted on 08/28/2010 4:11:54 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: Freee-dame
Here's one of the libs


47 posted on 08/28/2010 4:18:50 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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Guess what the idiots at cBS estimate the crowd at?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20014993-503544.html


48 posted on 08/28/2010 4:24:53 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: bert
you are mountainrnizing. Tens of thousands are hundreds of thousands.

mountainrnizing HUH? Is that a word? =o)

I realize we use the ten base numerical system. You wouldn't describe 100K people as being "ten ten thousand" or 500K people as being "fifty ten thousand", would you? There is an implication by using the term "tens of thousands" that the number is less than 100K.

49 posted on 08/28/2010 4:28:43 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: netmilsmom

Retard
-ed!!


50 posted on 08/28/2010 4:30:17 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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