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Alleged teen robber shot by Wal-Mart shopper(PA)
poconorecord.com ^ | 26 August, 2010 | NA

Posted on 08/29/2010 7:02:55 AM PDT by marktwain

EAST STROUDSBURG - It's a night time shopper's nightmare. You buy groceries, go to your car, and someone tries to rob you at gunpoint.

Police say Joshua Eastman, 28, of East Stroudsburg was unloading groceries at his car shortly before 12:45 a.m. today when Reneau Jean Jacques, 17, of 77 Symphony Circle, East Stroudsburg, pointed a handgun at him and demanded that he hand over his money.

Eastman looked around for help or someone to yell to. The alleged robber continued to demand money. Eastman replied that he did not have any money - that he used a debit card to pay for his purchases.

Jacques became more threatening, pointing the gun and using a more menacing tone of voice.

Eastman then took out his wallet and pushed the door of his truck more open to put it between himself and the suspect. Jacques pointed his gun at Eastman's face.

Eastman dropped his wallet and started ducking down. Jacques fired a shot that went through the window of the door almost striking Eastman and causing flying glass from the car window to cut his face.

Eastman pulled out a handgun he was carrying and fell to the ground. He returned fire under the truck's door with his pistol while the teen continued to fire his weapon.

Eastman shot Jacques in the lower leg and foot. Then Eastman ran back toward the store as the teen fled towards Friendly's restaurant.

Jacques fled into a landscaped island of bushes and trees in the parking lot. Stroud Area Regional Police were on the scene almost immediately and found him hiding and trying to bury a handgun in the mulch. He originally claimed to be a victim before police determined he was likely the one who started the trouble.

"It appears to be an armed robbery that went badly for the suspect because he picked an armed customer," said Sgt. James Wielgus.

On Thursday afternoon, Jacques, using crutches and wearing a long hospital gown over hospital pants, sat with a numb look on his face during his preliminary arraignment in East Stroudsburg Magisterial District Judge Michael Muth’s courtroom. Jacques, a Shawnee Academy student with a prior juvenile record, spoke in a subdued tone when addressed by the judge.

Jacques is charged as an adult with attempted murder, robbery, aggravated assault, crimes committed with guns and illegal possession of a gun, all felonies, and reckless endangerment, a misdemeanor. He hung his head and sighed after the judge told him he could face up to 30 years in prison if convicted of the most serious charge, attempted murder.

Jacques was taken to Pocono Medical Center for treatment. Police detained two other youths for questioning. They were in a car, trying to flee the scene, according to witnesses and police.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; pa; robber
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Not bad tactics on the part of the defender. Examples like this make a hash of the anti-gun argument that "you have no chance of defense because the robber already has the drop on you" that I have heard or read numerous times.
1 posted on 08/29/2010 7:02:57 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Just sorry he wasn’t a better shot


2 posted on 08/29/2010 7:07:07 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que AP: It's the "GROUND ZERO MOSQUE")
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To: marktwain

Not bad, should have at least shot his nads though, keep the scumbag from multiplying..


3 posted on 08/29/2010 7:08:49 AM PDT by aeonspromise
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Would have saved decades of taxpayer dollars.


4 posted on 08/29/2010 7:11:01 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: marktwain
Wal-mart will ban Joshua from their store.
Joshua will be alive, and free to shop elsewhere.
Jacques will get to be someones bitch.
5 posted on 08/29/2010 7:13:36 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: marktwain

I used to shop at that Super Walmart before they built one closer to me. The Stroudsburg area used to be nice, now it’s just chock full of NYC transplants bringing their big mouths and bad habits with them.

I always said to my husband when looking for a place to retire, we will check out the local Walmart to see the typical cross section of the population before we buy.


6 posted on 08/29/2010 7:16:06 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-2-10!)
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To: marktwain

Clean up on aisle 4!


7 posted on 08/29/2010 7:18:37 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marktwain

“It appears to be an armed robbery that went badly for the suspect because he picked an armed customer,” said Sgt. James Wielgus.

Bad career move Jacques


8 posted on 08/29/2010 7:20:04 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Just sorry he wasn’t a better shot

Oh, I don't know about that. He hit what had to be a small target (possibly moving) from an awkward position while under fire.

Eastman pulled out a handgun he was carrying and fell to the ground. He returned fire under the truck's door with his pistol while the teen continued to fire his weapon. Eastman shot Jacques in the lower leg and foot.

I think he did pretty well, under the circumstances.

9 posted on 08/29/2010 7:21:56 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (The shattered skulls of tyrants should be used for traction under the boots of justice. T. Nugent)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Welcome to Walmart! Bang, bang!


10 posted on 08/29/2010 7:22:36 AM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

“I always said to my husband when looking for a place to retire, we will check out the local Walmart to see the typical cross section of the population before we buy”.

Great Idea!


11 posted on 08/29/2010 7:23:19 AM PDT by imfrmdixie
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To: marktwain

“Police say Joshua Eastman, 28, of East Stroudsburg was unloading groceries at his car shortly before 12:45 a.m. today when Reneau Jean Jacques, 17, of 77 Symphony Circle, East Stroudsburg, pointed a handgun at him and demanded that he hand over his money. “

“Jacques fled into a landscaped island of bushes and trees in the parking lot.”

Another French surrender monkey not on the loose!


12 posted on 08/29/2010 7:23:51 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: All; moder_ator

This incident occurred 28 August, 2008. It is over two years old. I misread the date. Old news.


13 posted on 08/29/2010 7:24:21 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Should have been carrying a .357 or larger so he could have shot thru the door and killed the perp. Good riddance to worthless trash.
14 posted on 08/29/2010 7:24:30 AM PDT by nomad
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To: marktwain
http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080828/NEWS/80828002/0/NEWS01 Photobucket
15 posted on 08/29/2010 7:28:00 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

“...we will check out the local Walmart to see the typical cross section of the population before we buy.”

We have a theory: All Walmart shoppers are the exact same people in every store — it’s a sci-fi, time travel kind of thing. We swear we’ve seen the same people at Walmarts in Olean, NY; Simi Valley, CA; and in Knoxville, TN. Has to do with a gallactic portal or something. :)


16 posted on 08/29/2010 7:28:27 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Every time a liberal whines, an angel gets his wings.)
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To: marktwain
He hung his head and sighed after the judge told him he could face up to 30 years in prison

Looks like Jacques is strapped.

17 posted on 08/29/2010 7:28:31 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
when looking for a place to retire, we will check out the local Walmart to see the typical cross section of the population before we buy.

Darn good idea.

19 posted on 08/29/2010 7:31:21 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

....”and this little Frenchie went oui, oui, oui all the way home”...


20 posted on 08/29/2010 7:32:24 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: marktwain
...found him hiding and trying to bury a handgun in the mulch. He originally claimed to be a victim before police determined he was likely the one who started the trouble.

This scumbag tried to pin the shooting on the victim....another reason to keep shooting until the threat is permanently stopped.

21 posted on 08/29/2010 7:33:34 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: marktwain
*sigh*

Another poor chile victimized by gun violence in The Gun Culture? When will it ever end!!??

... oh, the Hugh Manatee...!

22 posted on 08/29/2010 7:37:59 AM PDT by Gritty (Every armed, trained citizen makes this county a better place - Dave Grossman, Self Defense Expert)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

As the pucker gets tighter the shot group gets looser.....


23 posted on 08/29/2010 7:38:10 AM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US Government to Kill Commies. Ain't that ironic?)
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To: marktwain

The perp got time but I can’t find the sentence.

Here’s his current residence:

“SCI Pine Grove, located in Indiana County, Pennsylvania, is a maximum-security facility for Young Adult Offender males. The Young Adult Offender Program (YAOP) is primarily designed for those offenders between the ages of 15-20 adjudicated as adults due to the nature of the criminal offense committed. The YAOP meets their special needs of education, adolescent development and recreational activity, while providing a safe environment for those offenders.

The YAOP is run as a therapeutic community. The therapeutic community was designed to use behavior modification as a primary management tool. Young Adult Offenders are encouraged to make life changes in areas of self-responsibility, discipline, respect for others and themselves, and to develop positive self-esteem. The YAO’s positive accomplishments are rewarded and negative or dysfunctional behavior is discouraged. “


24 posted on 08/29/2010 7:40:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: marktwain

The incredible thing here is that the robber actually tried to kill the dude by firing his weapon.

WTF? Reneau Jean Jacques - diversity is strength - sounds like a Haitian transplant


25 posted on 08/29/2010 7:43:24 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
I always said to my husband when looking for a place to retire, we will check out the local Walmart to see the typical cross section of the population before we buy.

That sounds like good advice, although I must say that the people of Wal-mart where we usually shop has changed considerably over the last few years. It seemed to start when they built a large apartment complex nearby.

26 posted on 08/29/2010 7:45:17 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
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To: marktwain
Great outcome. The victim was not shot or injured. No innocent bystanders were shot or injured. The perp was caught. I'll take that any day.
27 posted on 08/29/2010 7:50:43 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I believe in man-made political climate change.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
We have a theory: All Walmart shoppers are the exact same people in every store — it’s a sci-fi, time travel kind of thing. We swear we’ve seen the same people at Walmarts in Olean, NY; Simi Valley, CA; and in Knoxville, TN. Has to do with a gallactic portal or something. :)

Walmartians.

28 posted on 08/29/2010 7:54:25 AM PDT by Crawdad (Obamacare will lead to back-alley physicals.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Huh. Who would have thought?


29 posted on 08/29/2010 7:54:38 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five business worries of the Amercan Farmer for the past 50 years)
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To: Skip Away

It’s a shame. As a kid, my family and I used to vacation at Stroudsmore Resort in Stroud Twp. Stroudsburg was a great town, clean and busy with shoppers. It’s really gone downhill in 35 years. Must be run by Democraps.


30 posted on 08/29/2010 7:58:08 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-2-10!)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

That is smart!


31 posted on 08/29/2010 7:59:36 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: Crawdad

LOL! Good one!


32 posted on 08/29/2010 8:00:06 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-2-10!)
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To: nomad
Should have been carrying a .357 or larger so he could have shot thru the door and killed the perp

Di not count on it going through the door or if it does emerging with enough velocity and integrity of the the slug to drop the perp. The good guy did good considering the circumstances with the exception of not emptying his pistol into the perp. However, if he did they probably would have had a murder charge that would stick. In Texas he could have emptied the pistol and walk.

33 posted on 08/29/2010 8:09:52 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

With a French name and looking like that I bet he might have learned a thing or two from the Muzzies in France so he could do his own personal jihads on Americans in order to become a master wealth re-distributor!


34 posted on 08/29/2010 8:11:10 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Just sorry he wasn’t a better shot

From the description of the action, it sound's like he shot and hit, what he could see.

He returned fire under the truck's door with his pistol while the teen continued to fire his weapon

35 posted on 08/29/2010 8:11:40 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: cpdiii

Di should read as “Do”


36 posted on 08/29/2010 8:12:46 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: bill1952

You are probably right on target with him being Haitian. He’s just introducing Haitian culture to Americans like the one he tried to rob.


37 posted on 08/29/2010 8:13:26 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marktwain

Just, “wow.” I shoot lefthanded and carry my CCW on my left side. If someone had made it that far (to my vehicle door w/me indside) it would have been difficult for me to pull my weapon. Two words: situational awareness.


38 posted on 08/29/2010 8:15:16 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: marktwain

Obeyme’s next legislature will be full a disclosure law. All law abiding citizens will be required to disclose to all criminals if they are carrying. It is just not fair that a criminal not know if his victim is capable of defending himself.


39 posted on 08/29/2010 8:18:28 AM PDT by John D
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To: All

This is why we shop at the Temeculs Walmart after dark and not at the Hemet Walmart.

Too many Section 8’s from South Central have moved to Hemet.


40 posted on 08/29/2010 8:58:56 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: marktwain

Another future Obama voter taken out of action.


41 posted on 08/29/2010 9:10:47 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Rebelbase
The perp got time but I can’t find the sentence.

Found a follow-up in the March 20, 2009, Pocono Record :

"This week, Reneau Jacques, 18, couldn’t dodge another bullet, a sentence of 11 years and six months to 25 years in state prison for that crime. Facing attempted murder and other charges, Jacques was sentenced after pleading guilty to aggravated assault and attempted robbery."

I guess the prosecutor didn't feel like going to trial on the attempted murder charge. Punk is probably already back on the streets and shooting at people again.

42 posted on 08/29/2010 9:15:36 AM PDT by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
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To: troy McClure

Section 8 is a prime example of what is wrong with America and its government.


43 posted on 08/29/2010 9:15:41 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Actually there is only ONE Walmart and it is in Arkansas. Sam perfected the portals. It saves a lot on expenses.


44 posted on 08/29/2010 9:19:50 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: marktwain
"It appears to be an armed robbery that went badly for the suspect because he picked an armed customer," said Sgt. James Wielgus.

Fortunately, Joshua Eastman doesn't live in Chicago.

45 posted on 08/29/2010 9:23:24 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: hoosierham

There are plenty of studies showing Section 8 housing guarentees a community high crime rates.


46 posted on 08/29/2010 9:36:30 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Ronald_Magnus

The name is of French origin. My first thought was . . . Haitian immigrant.


47 posted on 08/29/2010 9:40:04 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Now that is a real surprise.


48 posted on 08/29/2010 9:48:01 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: marktwain
What did he shoot the perp with, a BB gun? After getting shot in the leg, the creep ran away!

This is why warning shots (in the form of a double tap to the head) are recommended.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

49 posted on 08/29/2010 9:58:42 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: FoxInSocks
Punk is probably already back on the streets and shooting at people again.

His sentence of 11 years and six months to 25 years means that he's not eligible for parole until he has spent at least 11½ years in prison.

50 posted on 08/29/2010 10:28:05 AM PDT by Sandy
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