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Iranian Air Force seeks return of F-14 bombers from U.S.
http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=224172 ^

Posted on 08/30/2010 3:40:46 AM PDT by kronos77

Tehran Times Political

TEHRAN – A top general declared on Tuesday that the Iranian Air Force is seeking a return of fighter jets it bought from the U.S. in the 1970s.

The United States sold 80 F-14s to Iran in 1974. However, it refused to deliver them to Iran after the Islamic Revolution.

“We want to take back bombers blocked by the U.S. because it is our legitimate right. However, this issue must be pursued by relevant organizations through relevant channels,” Hossein Chitforoush, the Air Force Deputy Commander, told the Mehr News Agency


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airforce; crazy; iran; military

1 posted on 08/30/2010 3:40:52 AM PDT by kronos77
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To: kronos77

August 5: The Tehran Times reports that the Iranian Air Force is seeking a “return of fighter jets it bought from the US in the 1970s”.

Hossein Chitforoush, the Iranian Air Force Deputy Commander, said “We want to take back bombers blocked by the US because it is our legitimate right. However, this issue must be pursued by relevant organisations through relevant channels.” The US sold 80 F-14s to Iran in the late 1970s, but the report claims “it refused to deliver them to Iran after the Islamic Revolution”.

Out of the 80 F-14A Tomcats ordered, all but one were delivered to the Imperial Iranian Air Force before the overthrow of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi in 1979. The outstanding aircraft, BuNo 160378, was put into storage at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Arizona until being refurbished as a NF-14A and used at the Pacific Missile Test Centre at Point Mugu in California. It was last noted back at Davis-Monthan with the 309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (AMARG) and was still resident as of June 12, 2010.


2 posted on 08/30/2010 3:41:19 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

Ok, but they’ve been through a lot since the 1970s and probably won’t fly.


3 posted on 08/30/2010 3:44:58 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: kronos77

Uh, F-14s are not halal.


4 posted on 08/30/2010 3:48:08 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

LOL!


5 posted on 08/30/2010 3:53:52 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
The last time this story was posted, it was decided that in spite of the headlines, the Iranians were really speaking of F-16s the Shah ordered but never received.
6 posted on 08/30/2010 3:55:19 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: kronos77

I think Israel will send them some bombers.


7 posted on 08/30/2010 3:58:09 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: Yo-Yo

That is more logical.

In the other hand, Iranians will get their ordered F-16s very soon I hope- they are redirected to Israeli AF after fall of Shah - and will be soon flying over Teheran :)


8 posted on 08/30/2010 4:01:45 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

Hossein Chitforoush?

More like Hossein Chitforbrains, from the sound of this press release.

Blessings and peace be upon him


9 posted on 08/30/2010 4:01:53 AM PDT by Mobties
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To: kronos77
They need 'em for their spiffy new carrier..


10 posted on 08/30/2010 4:02:14 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Pro Aris et Focis")
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To: Yo-Yo

F-16s are especially not halal. Being designed and built by pig eating, dog loving infidels afterall.


11 posted on 08/30/2010 4:05:00 AM PDT by Paladin2 (A)
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To: kronos77
I don't think the U.S. has ever sold F-14s to anybody.
12 posted on 08/30/2010 4:06:55 AM PDT by The Good Doctor (Democracy is the only system where you can vote for a tax that you can avoid the obligation to pay.)
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To: The Good Doctor

It did, to Imperial Iranian AF.


13 posted on 08/30/2010 4:10:35 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

Zero will sell them some F22s instead, in a show of good faith.


14 posted on 08/30/2010 4:14:07 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: kronos77
After breaking the rule of international law, by taking the entire personnel of American Citizens at the U.S. Embassy hostage for over 1 year, I think it is preposterous that we would even entertain complying with this request/demand.

But since Obama is the POTUS, our cooperation seems much more likely.

15 posted on 08/30/2010 4:14:47 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: kronos77

It could not possibly be more clear that the Iranians suffer collectively from clinical insanity.


16 posted on 08/30/2010 4:17:12 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: kronos77

Just send ‘em 80 copies of “Top Gun” on VHS.


17 posted on 08/30/2010 4:18:00 AM PDT by shibumi (Pablo is Miley- wily, clever and detractive as all get out!)
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To: kronos77

People in hell want ice water too. But with Obama at the wheel, they may get their planes.


18 posted on 08/30/2010 4:27:31 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing leftists and their fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: kronos77

Have their President come get them!!


19 posted on 08/30/2010 4:29:08 AM PDT by GregB (The Sarah Palin snowball is rolling downhill get behind her or get rolled over!!!)
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To: kronos77

Can’t Gates issue a fatwa against providing any planes to a Shiite country?


20 posted on 08/30/2010 4:31:18 AM PDT by Paladin2 (A)
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To: kronos77
Μολὼν λαβέ
21 posted on 08/30/2010 4:40:27 AM PDT by bertrand
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To: The Good Doctor

It was back in 1976 before the Republican Guard attacked our embassy because of Carter’s ineptitude.

Just like Chavez has some F16s.


22 posted on 08/30/2010 4:42:46 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: kronos77
When I was in Naval Basic Training during the Summer of 1977 we had two companies of Iranian officer recruits using the same facility in San Diego. They were segregated from us, but we still ran into them from time to time. Who would of known that a few months later a man named Ayatollah Khomeini would change everything, and Iran would forever be our enemy.
23 posted on 08/30/2010 4:43:04 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: kronos77

Posted 10says ago with quite a bit of discussion...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2572355/posts


24 posted on 08/30/2010 4:49:19 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: The Good Doctor

More discussion of planes here ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2572355/posts


25 posted on 08/30/2010 4:50:57 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: The Good Doctor

False. The Iranians already have F-14’s that we sold them in the 1970’s but they lack parts to keep them flying.


26 posted on 08/30/2010 4:51:26 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: kronos77

WTF? Of the 80 Tomcats, 79 were delivered. The one (1) impounded sat for years in storage at AMARC, then was pressed into service as an Adversary.

They probably want the Kidd Class DDGs back too. Good luck to them on that, because they’re part of the Taiwanese Navy now.


27 posted on 08/30/2010 4:52:40 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: kronos77

Risible.

The Runt Rodent of iRan was instrumental in the criminal trespass on American soil, the US Embassy in Tehran, and the kidnap and torture of the American Embassy staff for 444 days.

I hope the agency responsible for dealing military hardware turns a deaf ear to the Ranting Runt Rodent.


28 posted on 08/30/2010 5:00:21 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: kronos77

Depending on what they have at Davis-Monthan, they should take 80 planes, chop them up in tiny pieces and send them over with a note that says “some assembly required.”


29 posted on 08/30/2010 5:28:29 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15.)
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To: kronos77

Come and take them!


30 posted on 08/30/2010 5:32:15 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (If Pelosi were Pope abortion would be a sacrament.)
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To: kronos77

molan labe


31 posted on 08/30/2010 5:41:23 AM PDT by Stand W (We have always been at war with Eastasia)
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To: kronos77

molan labe


32 posted on 08/30/2010 5:41:28 AM PDT by Stand W (We have always been at war with Eastasia)
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To: The Good Doctor
I don't think the U.S. has ever sold F-14s to anybody.
Yes, the Shah bought 80 of them, as I recall - it actually was vital to keeping the program going at the time - and all but a few (6 or 8) actually were delivered to Iran. The contract also entailed, as I understand, help in the training of the pilots. But with the advent of the Khomeni regime, and its hostility to the US, the last few of them were never delivered and were eventually used by the US Navy. No F-14s have been flown by the USN for years now, and for want of spare parts, it seems unlikely that the Iranian Air Force could do so now. They used them against Saddam Hussain's Iraq, but that certainly caused wear and attrition, and they were used mostly as radar platforms, reportedly.

33 posted on 08/30/2010 5:46:37 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: kronos77

We will deliver them to the government that purchased them.


34 posted on 08/30/2010 5:47:15 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I aspire to a large carbon footprint; just like Al Gore's)
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To: NavyCanDo
I was in Air Force Basic Training in the Fall of 1977, and at Lackland AFB there were Iranian Air Force trainees that were also segregated from the US population. Our TI warned us that in spite of the way their uniforms looked, with braids, stars, mortar boards, and giant "Pringle" hats, most of them were the equivalent to a USAF AB (E-1,) so DON'T SALUTE THEM.

I went on to Mtn. Home AFB, and in 1980 we mustered every flying F-111A (only about 30 out of 100 were flyable thanks to President Peanut and his military budget cuts) we could and sent then to our alternate deployed base in Turkey. We were never told why the sudden urgency to deploy these aircraft, until 24 hours later we heard of the tragedy at Desert One.

35 posted on 08/30/2010 5:51:35 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: kronos77

Iran: “The US is the Great Satan, the US is the Great Satan, the US is the Great Satan, we want our bombers back, the US is the Great Satan..., “


36 posted on 08/30/2010 5:53:54 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Yep, good ole President Peanut. I was in the Med on the Saratoga during the time Qaddafi decided to extend the coastal claims of Libya to the waters where American naval maneuvers were conducted. The entire Gulf of Sidra, extended up to one hundred miles from Libya’s coast, and it was proclaimed by Qaddafi to be Libyan water, off limits to our forces. The Carter government meekly rescheduled our maneuvers to stay outside of the disputed area, ordering us to not cross Qaddafi’s line. True to form, Carter failed to confront Qaddafi over the issue even after a siege on the American embassy in Tripoli in 1979.

Prior to the 1980 election an Admiral called all the sailors to the flight deck where he gave a speech on how important it was to vote for a President that would stand up for the military. I can’t remember if he actually used Reagan’s name, but we all knew he was not talking about the peanut farmer. I’m not sure he was supposed to do this, but I’m so glad he did, because I proudly voted for Ronald Reagan, and was the first in my family to vote for a Republican.

Within months after taking office, Ronald Reagan took a stand. He made it clear that American maneuvers in the Gulf of Sidra would proceed.
Anticipating trouble, Reagan was asked by the Joint Chiefs what American pilots do if attacked? Would Reagan’s orders allow for “hot pursuit”? Reagan’s answer – “All the way into the hanger.” You know the rest of the story.


37 posted on 08/30/2010 6:06:08 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: kronos77

Sorry guys. Your order was voided when you decided to take the Embassy for collateral.


38 posted on 08/30/2010 6:18:48 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - Scott for FL Gov. - Miller AK US Senate)
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To: kronos77
Iranian Air Force seeks return of F-14 bombers from U.S.

If this reporter thinks the F-14 is a bomber said reporter needs to do a little reading on aircraft.

If the reporter thinks that the F-14s from 1979 are still sitting in a hanger and were not used by the US Navy during the intervening 30 years he needs to stop taking drugs.

Those aircraft were long since used up and sent to the desert for a well earned retirement. If not turned into Soda cans when their wing pivot boxes metal fatigued.
39 posted on 08/30/2010 6:50:54 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: kronos77
The aircraft have been recycled. The possibility of delivery is


40 posted on 08/30/2010 8:22:33 AM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: NavyCanDo

At the same time there was a fairly large program training Iranian AF air traffic controllers. They went through the same technical school at Keesler AFB as USAF trainees. They would then be assigned to an AFB for training in a Radar Approach Control (RAPCON). Some were good, some were not. Many had problems with language, especially technical English terms.


41 posted on 08/30/2010 9:45:46 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Young Werther

Can we send ‘em a bunch of Revell model airplane kits...


42 posted on 08/30/2010 9:56:44 AM PDT by ken5050 (The meek shall inherit the earth, but no way Kendrick Meek beats Marco Rubio)
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To: NavyCanDo
...we had two companies of Iranian officer recruits using the same facility in San Diego.

You have to wonder how many are still alive. The Dean of my Engineering School spent the '70's doing water projects throughout Iran. He stated once that everyone trained by him was either missing or dead.

43 posted on 08/30/2010 4:43:41 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: The Good Doctor

Here is three of them flying in Iran last year. Delivered during the 1970s.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iran-—Air/Grumman-F-14A-Tomcat/1702726/L/


44 posted on 08/31/2010 9:22:26 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: WaterBoard

Not quite. You can see at least 12 F-14s bringing up the rear in this 2008 flypast.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iran-—Air/Mikoyan-Gurevich-MiG-29UB-(9-51)/1349418/L/

Recent IRIAF footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_3jLuW03L0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMbPRcpVMEw

They also do extremely well with their other US fleet of F-4s and F-5s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jrYSh3IzTY

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?airlinesearch=Iran%20-%20Air%20Force&distinct_entry=true


45 posted on 08/31/2010 9:52:28 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: GonzoGOP

I think a little bit lost in translation. The Iranians do use their F-14 (Like the US did) to drop bombs.

IRIAF F-14 bomb loading/loaded footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptbHRPsrH_k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_aZ7qSg0NY


46 posted on 08/31/2010 10:13:40 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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