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NEO unit trains with US Marines
Army News (Canadian Forces) ^ | 2010-08-27 | Sgt Dan Milburn

Posted on 08/30/2010 12:01:28 PM PDT by Clive

Hawaii, USA — Members of Golf Company, 2nd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment (G Coy, 2 RCR) joined the US Marines for six weeks in a unique training environment. G Coy, which holds the non-combatant evacuation operations (NEO) task, came to the Pohakuloa Training Area (PTA) to participate in Exercise RIMPAC.

No Club Med

The PTA is located on the Big Island of Hawaii between Mauna Loa, Mauna Kea and the Hualalai volcanoes. The extremely rough, austere area is made of old lava fields and hills where, even in the heat of the Hawaiian summer, the morning temperature is around 8ËšC and reaches up to 30ËšC by mid-afternoon. With its high winds, the PTA is not the Hawaii one would expect to see on a post card.

“It’s quite different from what we experienced in CFB Gagetown, where it’s mostly swamp and tall grass,” said Master Corporal Derrick Hilton, G Coy. “Here, it’s a lot of rock [and] small scrub. [The] arid environment [is] a little bit different [for] training. Pretty realistic though, I think, for some current theatres we’re operating in.”

Mutual lessons learned

Although both contingents have different operating procedures, the Canadians use many of the same weapons and skills as their Marine counterparts. In combined operations, there is usually a sharp learning curve, but once the essentials were grasped, the benefits of working together far outweighed the challenges.

“We learned some great lessons from the Marines,” said Maj Murphy, “and I’d like to think they’ve learned some from us.” The company spent a few weeks at Marine Base Hawaii conducting pre-exercise training needed to participate in Ex RIMPAC.

Live fire, range training

As part of the exercise, G Coy boarded the USS Bonhomme Richard, a Wasp-class amphibious assault ship. Apart from a stop at the PTA, the ship served as a home away from home for the troops.

During their week at the PTA, the Canadians conducted company-level training alongside the Marines and Australian troops. Using some of the unique Marine ranges, they tested their skills in the section range, the machine gun range and the unknown distance range. In addition, the forward observer party from 2nd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Horse Artillery was able to call in live fire support from Marine artillery and Cobra attack helicopters.

Upon completion of their training, G Coy again boarded the USS Bonhomme Richard, setting sail back to the island of Oahu to participate in the final part of its role in Ex RIMPAC.

Article and photos by Sgt Dan Milburn, Army News, Edmonton


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Canada; Foreign Affairs; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: evacuation; marines; neo; noncombatant; operations

1 posted on 08/30/2010 12:01:31 PM PDT by Clive
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To: exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

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2 posted on 08/30/2010 12:02:36 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

When I was stationed at Kaneohe, every summer that I was there, we would do an operation with reservists. I’ll bet the reservists thought they were getting a great two week tour going to Hawaii. I would have loved to see their eyes when they first got to PTA. The shock would be priceless. I could see them in my mind’s eye. This is Hawaii?? LOL, if you have ever been to PTA, it’s not the Hawaii that you see in the brochures...


3 posted on 08/30/2010 12:06:58 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Clive
“We learned some great lessons from the Marines,” said Maj Murphy, “and I’d like to think they’ve learned some from us.”
Such as what, how to brew a proper cup of tea?
Semper Fi ....
4 posted on 08/30/2010 12:17:36 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
Such as what, how to brew a proper cup of tea?

Wasn't it a Canadian sniper who set a world distance record for a kill in Afghanistan?

5 posted on 08/30/2010 12:22:22 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: oh8eleven

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2580227/posts


6 posted on 08/30/2010 12:49:09 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
The first time I went to PTA with 1/3, I was quite surprised that they had pt bellied stoves to heat the Quonset huts. A couple of nights there and I found out why.
7 posted on 08/30/2010 1:04:42 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: SJSAMPLE; omega4412
I'm not denigrating any individual soldier's accomplishments or bravery.
However, it'll be a cold day in hell when the United States Marines take lessons from the Canadian Army.
IIRC, Canada doesn't even have an AF to get the soldiers into combat in the first place.
8 posted on 08/30/2010 1:09:25 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

The RCAF (along with the Canadian Navy and Army) were rolled into the “Canadian Forces” in 1968.

They’re purchasing American-made C-17s in order to deploy their own troops, but they currently operate the C-130 and other aircraft.


9 posted on 08/30/2010 1:16:42 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: JimC214

I was in 3/3 and yes it got cold in Hawaii!!! : )


10 posted on 08/30/2010 1:23:13 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: SJSAMPLE; oh8eleven
Canada is already operating C-17s into Kandahar in addition to the C-130s that have been operaing in Afghanistan from the beginning.

When speaking of air assets, don't forget the Chinooks and their escorts, Griffons with door mounted gatling guns, operating out of KAF.

11 posted on 08/30/2010 1:31:02 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

here is what the Canadians will learn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJCeMXRmHzo

Tony Bourdain describes being evacuated from Beruit Lebanon by the USMC and the US Navy.

Makes my screen blurry each time I watch it.

No Better Friend, No Worse Enemy.


12 posted on 08/30/2010 1:31:02 PM PDT by lack-of-trust
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

http://www.hawaiisnowskiclub.com/ this is the website for the Hawaii Ski Club.


13 posted on 08/30/2010 1:31:11 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: JimC214

Yep, most people don’t know that it snows in Hawaii. Semper Fi...


14 posted on 08/30/2010 1:34:10 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: oh8eleven

*However, it’ll be a cold day in hell when the United States Marines take lessons from the Canadian Army.*

Ignorance and that attitude is exactly what gets people killed .

During World War II, the U.S. Marine Corps, in an effort to find quicker and more secure ways to send and receive code enlisted Navajos as “code talkers.”

Philip Johnston was the initiator of the Marine Corps’ program to enlist and train the Navajos as messengers. Although Johnston was not a Navajo, he grew up on a Navajo reservation as the son of a missionary and became familiar with the people and their language. Johnston was also a World War I veteran and knew about the military’s desire to send and receive messages in an unbreakable code. According to a 1970 interview with Johnston and a paper he wrote entitled “Indian Jargon Won Our Battles,” he hit upon the idea of enlisting Navajos as signalmen early in 1942 when he read a newspaper story about the Army’s use of several Native Americans during training maneuvers with an armored division in Louisiana.

The article stated that the Army included Native Americans during these maneuvers on the basis of the experiences of the Canadian Army in World War I, when the Native Americans acted as signalmen against the Germans to send secure messages about shortages of supplies or ammunition.

The Army’s program, however, was never given the priority that the U.S. Marine Corps assigned to Johnston’s idea in 1942

http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/code-talkers/

March 16, 2008

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan — The top U.S. Marine in Afghanistan said Sunday that his North Carolina-based assault force has been overwhelmed by the welcome from Canadian troops.

“We are very much being treated like the pretty girl at the dance and it is fun to be in that position,” said Col. Peter Petronzio of the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit during his first interview since he and his troops began arriving several weeks ago at this airfield at epicentre of NATO’s effort to defeat the Taliban and al-Qaida in southern Afghanistan.

“Canadians have learned a lot of hard lessons here and have paid for it in blood,” he said. They have done some awesome things and have been very gracious in teaching us what they have learned.”

Returning quickly to the matter at hand, which was preparing his troops for their looming combat mission in Afghanistan, he said that having a chance to learn from Canadian soldiers what they had done right and wrong had been invaluable.

“I’ve told my marines,” he said, “the only mistake that is inexcusable is a mistake that somebody else has made already . . . If the Canadians need help, we will help them, just like I know that if we need help, they will help us.”

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=8fb87041-8c23-4b1b-a043-e08cbd6bcec8


15 posted on 08/30/2010 2:43:07 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: omega4412; oh8eleven

It was.


16 posted on 08/30/2010 2:48:25 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Snowyman
Thanks for making this post. I happen to respect and admire the Canucks and cannot for the life of me understand people here who denigrate them.
17 posted on 08/30/2010 3:15:38 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Snowyman

Thanks.

You absolutely would not believe how ignorant (and how common) such comments are. I’ve heard them for decades and I just shake my head.


18 posted on 08/30/2010 5:07:40 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: lack-of-trust

That was great payback for the time CANADIAN citizens and diplomats rescued AMERICAN citizens from the Iranians during their “revolution”.

THANKS, CANADA !!!


19 posted on 08/30/2010 5:10:00 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

Absolutely!

Thanks Hosers er.. I mean Thanks Canadians.

:-)


20 posted on 08/30/2010 8:46:32 PM PDT by lack-of-trust
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To: omega4412

jerk


21 posted on 08/31/2010 8:03:27 AM PDT by albertabound
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To: albertabound

What’s your problem with my comment?


22 posted on 08/31/2010 2:09:34 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: Clive
The PTA is located on the Big Island of Hawaii between Mauna Loa, Mauna Kea and the Hualalai volcanoes.

Search and Destroy the birth certificate...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

23 posted on 08/31/2010 2:21:00 PM PDT by The Comedian
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