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Soy Not Healthy for the Heart
The Epoch Times ^ | August 29, 2010 | Kaayla T. Daniel, Ph.D., C.C.N.

Posted on 08/30/2010 5:44:19 PM PDT by CutePuppy

Soy does not lower cholesterol, does not prevent heart disease, and does not deserve an FDA-approved soy heart-health claim. This amazing announcement comes from none other than the American Heart Association (AHA) published in the Jan. 17, 2006, issue of its journal Circulation.

Athletes at Risk

Not long before this announcement, University of Colorado researchers reported in the January issue of the Journal of Clinical Investigation that soy worsens cardiomyopathy, a form of heart disease that is very much on the rise, afflicting 1 in 500 Americans.

Cardiomyopathy, defined as a weakening of the heart muscle or change in structure of the heart, is the leading cause of death among young athletes, a group that may consume a lot of soy in the form of protein powders and energy bars.

Women at Risk

Now investigators have found more damning evidence against soy. High levels of soy isoflavones — plant estrogens found in products like soymilk and soy nuts as well as many menopausal supplements — put women at risk for cardiovascular disease.

The study, reported in the May 2007 issue of Journal of Women’s Health, began when Carl J. Pepine, M.D., chief of cardiology at the University of Florida College of Medicine, in Gainesville, along with 10 other researchers from his own and five other medical institutions, aimed to find out whether women who have high concentrations of isoflavones in their blood had better vascular health.

Subjects were participants in the Women’s Ischemia Syndrome Evaluation (WISE) who had reported chest pain and were thus suspected to suffer from myocardial ischemia (defined as pathological loss of or reduction in blood flow, ischemia, to a part of the muscular tissue of the heart, the myocardium).

More than 900 women have participated in the WISE project, which was founded a decade ago by the National Institutes of Health to study whether heart disease develops differently in women than in men. Because heart disease is more likely to occur after menopause, scientists have blamed waning estrogen levels.

Dr. Pepine and his colleagues had expected that women with high levels of genistein (the primary isoflavone found in soybeans) would show improved vascular health but found the opposite to be true.

Speaking to a reporter for Science News, Dr. Pepine said: “There are a lot of women taking these things (isoflavone-rich products), without any direct evidence that they’re beneficial.” He warned that there is a “small but growing body of research suggesting there could be a downside to overindulging in them.”

Industry Response

Industry response to mounting evidence for soy’s lack of benefit has been entirely predictable: endless references to soy being both low in saturated fat and free of cholesterol (twin evils that “everyone knows” cause heart disease) combined with chipper reports of hot new evidence “proving” that soy is the best thing for the heart since love.

Although some of this hype has made it into the news — particularly in magazines where soy foods and soymilk are heavily advertised — a shift has definitely taken place. Health magazines are increasingly leaving soy off lists of healthy foods. These days, they aren’t yet reporting risks from soy, but they aren’t singing its praises either.

Soy-Book Ban

The July-August 2007 issue of Energy Times featured an “Omnivore versus Vegan” debate designed to help readers decide whether Mother Nature designed us as to eat animal products or whether we should consider veganism “our next big evolutionary leap.”

Speaking for the vegans was Hope Ferdowsian, M.D., of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. Representing the omnivores was WAPF (Weston A. Price Foundation) board member Kaayla T. Daniel, Ph.D., who was invited to participate only on the grounds that she not speak out about soy.

Apparently the advertisers were so nervous about the subject that they didn’t even permit her to be credited as author of “The Whole Soy Story: The Dark Side of America’s Favorite Health Food.”

Whereas health magazines have often chosen to eliminate the book’s informative subtitle, Energy Times excised all mention of the book. In addition to the usual array of soy advertisements, the back inside cover of the magazine featured an advertisement in the guise of a footnoted article.

Its title? “The Good News About Soy Continues.” Among other claims was the one that soy is very heart healthy.

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Kaayla T. Daniel is a certified clinical nutritionist, author, and speaker.

Source: http://Westonaprice.org/soy-alert/968-not-so-soy-healthy-for-the-heart.html


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: diet; estrogen; health; heart; medicine; myth; soy; soystory; vegan; vegetarian; women
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FTA: The soybeans ... may not have the healthful qualities that have been touted. However, the soybeans would be a good source of biodiesel

FYI.

1 posted on 08/30/2010 5:44:23 PM PDT by CutePuppy
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To: CutePuppy

I drink apple cider vinegar.


2 posted on 08/30/2010 5:46:02 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: CutePuppy

Isn’t soy in a lot of stuff, just like high fructose corn syrup? No wonder we are all having problems. I am so glad I never jumped on the soy wagon. Heart disease already runs in my family.


3 posted on 08/30/2010 5:46:19 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: CutePuppy

And it’s un-manly.


4 posted on 08/30/2010 5:48:01 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: CutePuppy
High levels of soy isoflavones — plant estrogens

That should be enough to deter any male from eating lots of soy products.

5 posted on 08/30/2010 5:48:52 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: CutePuppy
High levels of soy isoflavones — plant estrogens

That should be enough to deter any male from eating lots of soy products.

6 posted on 08/30/2010 5:48:53 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Paved Paradise
Isn’t soy in a lot of stuff, just like high fructose corn syrup?

There are many food products made of soy foodstuff - soy "milk" (for lactose intolerant) soy "burgers" (in many "veggie burgers") and many other foods, like tofu, often specifically marketed to vegetarians / vegans as main ingredient for meat substitute.

7 posted on 08/30/2010 5:54:29 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

I’ve always said, menopausal women just need more testosterone supplements — and of course chocolate is good for you too.

God made these things. Devil made soy. It’s self-evident.


8 posted on 08/30/2010 5:55:00 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: El Sordo

Exactly what I tell my Chinese wife when she tries to feed me tofu!!

I’ve been telling her that soy is bad for you all along.

Now there is proof!


9 posted on 08/30/2010 5:55:21 PM PDT by datura (Stop Obamunism.)
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To: Paved Paradise

“Heart disease already runs in my family.”

Mine, too, unfortunately. The only good thing the men in my family (and our detractors) can look forward to is not suffering from it for too long.


10 posted on 08/30/2010 5:55:26 PM PDT by jessduntno (Flush the Grand Old Potty. Vote Conservative.)
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To: jessduntno

I died of cardiomyopathy back in 2006, caused by two things: Hypothyroidism and declining testosterone.

There are lots of causes of heart conditions, but now there are lots of cures. I’m back to 100% health.

Just get regular checkups and bloodwork done......


11 posted on 08/30/2010 5:58:46 PM PDT by datura (Stop Obamunism.)
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To: television is just wrong

“I drink apple cider vinegar.”

Me too. I mix a quart of Apple juice, a quart of Grape juice and 1 cup of Apple cider vinegar. I drink a cup every morning with my supplements.


12 posted on 08/30/2010 5:58:57 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: CutePuppy

I dunno... the East Asians are big consumers of soy bean. I’ve never heard that heart-related diseases are big there. Perhaps, unlike what the title suggests, soy bean is fine for heart or may even be good, just not as good as some people have suggested.


13 posted on 08/30/2010 5:59:01 PM PDT by paudio (The Democrats have been majority in Congress since 2006, not 2008!)
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To: Pride in the USA

From the front lines of “more stuff you need to know”, a peer reviewed journal article and a reputable source.


14 posted on 08/30/2010 6:00:32 PM PDT by lonevoice (I can see November from Free Republic's porch!)
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To: hellbender; El Sordo
And it's un-manly
That should be enough to deter any male from eating lots of soy products.

Most men likely agree with you. Unfortunately, soy products are mostly targeted and mostly consumed by women, who are probably even more negatively affected. Article sited specific risks for women from soy products.

Now that's one crop that could be made for biofuel, before government subsidies make it too expensive for that purpose.

15 posted on 08/30/2010 6:00:56 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: datura
Exactly what I tell my Chinese wife when she tries to feed me tofu!!

I’ve been telling her that soy is bad for you all along.
Now there is proof!

I am in exactly the same circumstances. I hate soy products. ALL of it. Ever tried cho do fu?(stinky tofu) I cross the street away from places selling it and I still feel nauseous.

I finally got her to try rice milk in stead of soy milk...she likes it...but doesn't "trust" it....ay yoooo!

I'm going to send this article to her...she won't believe until she sees it on the Taiwan News channels....which will never happen.

16 posted on 08/30/2010 6:02:34 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: dljordan

I notice the difference too. It helps a lot.


17 posted on 08/30/2010 6:04:13 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: CutePuppy
I'm soy intolerant...Works like IBS when soy is eaten.

It's ironic because my BIL worked for Central Soya years ago. Twenty two of the twenty three food scientist had come to the conclusion that soy is NOT good for people. The company fired all twenty two and replaced them with kids right out of college who would do as they said.

18 posted on 08/30/2010 6:05:07 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: datura
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A g..g...g...GHOST!!!

19 posted on 08/30/2010 6:06:09 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: hellbender
It also causes infertility in women.
20 posted on 08/30/2010 6:06:37 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: dljordan

Why do you drink that? (I’m interested.)


21 posted on 08/30/2010 6:12:03 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

HA.....you don’t know how right you are!


22 posted on 08/30/2010 6:12:17 PM PDT by goodnesswins (under construction)
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To: CutePuppy

Here is the beginning of a series of articles on the hazards of soy:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327
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23 posted on 08/30/2010 6:12:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
...and of course chocolate is good for you too. God made these things. Devil made soy. It’s self-evident.

:-) Couldn't argue with that.

24 posted on 08/30/2010 6:12:47 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

While tofu, and soy milk are bad for you, I think that traditional fermented soy like miso is probably OK.


25 posted on 08/30/2010 6:16:01 PM PDT by devere
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To: El Sordo

“And it’s un-manly.”
You mean it’s Obama friendly?


26 posted on 08/30/2010 6:16:01 PM PDT by 9422WMR (Illegal is not a race)
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To: CutePuppy

While tofu, and soy milk are bad for you, I think that traditional fermented soy like miso is probably OK.


27 posted on 08/30/2010 6:16:16 PM PDT by devere
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To: paudio

You have to consider the whole diet (for instance, a lot of seafood / fish - sources of fish oil and Vitamin D3) and, actually soy (as in tofu, rather than use of soy sauce etc.) is not a large part of Asian diet or cuisine, it’s been popularized and more faddish in the western world when vegetarianism became fashionable.


28 posted on 08/30/2010 6:19:03 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: devere

Miso should be fine. It’s processed differently and used sparingly in pastes and soup.


29 posted on 08/30/2010 6:20:27 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: hellbender

It shrinks a guy’s nuts.

http://www.boost-your-low-testosterone.com/testicles-shrinking.html


30 posted on 08/30/2010 6:31:42 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: datura

> “Now there is proof!”

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There has been for a long time.

This country has a dark underbelly that worships the death culture, and wishes to fulfil UN Agenda 21 by killing off 2/3 of the population, and things like soy, statin drugs, and low fat diets are a hugh part of it.
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31 posted on 08/30/2010 6:34:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: CutePuppy

Miso and Natto are fermented, and are good food.


32 posted on 08/30/2010 6:36:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Clara Lou

“Why do you drink that? (I’m interested.)”

It’s supposed to make your system more alkaline and increase energy. Look it up on Google.


33 posted on 08/30/2010 6:36:31 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: dljordan
“I drink apple cider vinegar.”

Are your teeth dissolving?

34 posted on 08/30/2010 6:36:51 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: dljordan
Look it up on Google.

I looked up obama on Google and they told me he is the savior of the world.

35 posted on 08/30/2010 6:38:03 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Paved Paradise

Read labels it is in mixes and dozens of products we eat every day .. it is a “healthy” filler

I have read that Asians have a genetic ability to digest soy not found in other populations.That could explain that generations of asians have eaten large amts without difficulity


36 posted on 08/30/2010 6:42:37 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Lil'freeper

Ping to another soy article.


37 posted on 08/30/2010 6:43:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: RnMomof7

> “I have read that Asians have a genetic ability to digest soy not found in other populations.That could explain that generations of asians have eaten large amts without difficulity”

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Asians do not eat much non-fermented soy.

Only Americans are stupid enough to consume such low grade animal fodder.


38 posted on 08/30/2010 6:45:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: hoosiermama
The company fired all twenty two and replaced them with kids right out of college who would do as they said.

Because "everybody knows" that "soy is good for you"... Just like "everybody knows" the "dangers of man-made global warming"... That DDT is very harmful to people and must be banned... and so on and so on...

"Conventional wisdom" formed by incessant repetition in the media taking place instead of hard science and common sense... Fortunately it seems to start slowly going in reverse as people start distrusting the agenda of politicians and the media more and more.

39 posted on 08/30/2010 6:46:45 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: editor-surveyor

Opps thats right..my Korean daughter in law did tell me that


40 posted on 08/30/2010 6:48:29 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes, they are good food. Natto is acquired taste, takes a little getting used to, so it’s unlikely to become popular in the West.

But tofu is downright a junk food, yet it’s being promoted as “healthy”.


41 posted on 08/30/2010 6:54:57 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

I always suspected soy was bad for people.

Then I learned about Omega 3 fatty acids deficiency in Western diets, and how Western diets have way too much Omega 6, which crowds out the little Omega 3’s we still get.

Here you go: http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/episodes/2009/09/02/segments/139857

Soy has way too much Omega 6, which we get way too much of as it is, based on the info in the above link.

Explains a lot—it’s not cholesterol, but too much Omega 6 and too little Omega 3 in our diet that is killing us.


42 posted on 08/30/2010 6:57:22 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: paudio; Paved Paradise; CutePuppy

East Asians do NOT consume large amounts of soy - the Japanese only ever used it in tofu, soy sauce, and as pig feed. American Chinese food uses lots of soy sauce, but real Chinese food doesn’t. Furthermore, Asians never ate processed soybean oil - that’s a 20th century U.S. innovation.

Since soy oil acts as artificial estrogen, some people are claiming that soy is behind the rise of homosexuality in America. I’m allergic to soy, so I never had to worry about its effects on my manliness, but you might want to think about it. Soy is in many more things than people realize, as it can be listed as many other ingredients. ‘MSG’ is soy, and ‘modified food starch’ in American products (Canadians tend to use potato). ‘Vegetable oil’ (in everything) is usually soy, and almost all lecithin (an emulsifier found in candy and most creamy foods) is soy. ‘Vegetable broth’ in tuna cans, soup, and frozen foods is soy. Soy is even injected into Thanksgiving hams and turkeys.

Bottom line: Americans are the world’s biggest consumers of soy, by eating prepackaged foods. We the people are the biggest biological experiment in the history of the world. And we voted for Obama - what does this tell you?


43 posted on 08/30/2010 6:58:11 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (What did the Buddha say to the hot-dog vendor? "Make me One with everything.")
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To: CutePuppy

I have not researched this, but I have been told by ‘foodies’ that soy in America, just like yellow corn, is totally genetically modified. Not real food.

That could explain the hormone synthesis capability of this genetically modified soy. I can remember people claiming over 35 years ago that soy in food caused cancer, that dogs didn’t get cancer in such great number UNTIL they added soy to their diets.

And then there’s the soy baby formula - supposedly responsible for girls going through puberty VERY young. Just google ‘soy danger’


44 posted on 08/30/2010 7:03:07 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: Age of Reason
Then I learned about Omega 3 fatty acids deficiency in Western diets, and how Western diets have way too much Omega 6, which crowds out the little Omega 3’s we still get.

Exactly. Some oils promoted as "healthy" - such as canola oil and some other "substitute" vegetable oils (not olive) - have too high a ratio of Omega 6 to Omega 3, and should be avoided. Fish oil, natural or in supplements, is generally high in Omega 3 and Vitamin D3.

See also some keywords VitD / VitD3 threads from last couple of months.

45 posted on 08/30/2010 7:06:02 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: mrreaganaut; Paved Paradise; CutePuppy
I googled to find a hard data, but only got this. Granted, it's from a journal article:

Nevertheless, Americans as a whole still consume very little soy protein. Based on 2003 data from the UN Food and Agriculture Organization, per-capita soy protein consumption is less than 1 gram (g) per day in most European and North American countries, although certain subpopulations such as vegetarians, Asian immigrants, and infants fed soy-based formula consume more. The Japanese, on the other hand, consume an average 8.7 g of soy protein per day; Koreans, 6.2–9.6 g; Indonesians, 7.4 g; and the Chinese, 3.4 g.

Source: Barrett JR 2006. The Science of Soy: What Do We Really Know? Environ Health Perspect 114:A352-A358.

Link: The Science of Soy: What Do We Really Know?

The paragraph above is the second to the last of the introduction.

46 posted on 08/30/2010 7:11:23 PM PDT by paudio (The Democrats have been majority in Congress since 2006, not 2008!)
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To: hellbender

Always wondered why, after eating at a Chinese restaurant, I feel like knitting when I get home...


47 posted on 08/30/2010 7:11:55 PM PDT by moovova
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To: datura
I died of cardiomyopathy back in 2006, caused by two things: Hypothyroidism and declining testosterone.

Well, death apparently has not stopped you from posting! But tell me--do you find yourself voting Democrat now?

48 posted on 08/30/2010 7:41:49 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: japaneseghost
I have not researched this, but I have been told by ‘foodies’ that soy in America, just like yellow corn, is totally genetically modified. Not real food.

There are currently eight major GM food crops on the market, so memorizing this list will help you avoid any and all food products that might contain GMO’s:

1.Soy
2.Corn
3.Cottonseed (used in vegetable cooking oils)
4.Canola (canola oil)
5.Sugar from sugar beets
6.Hawaiian papaya
7.Some varieties of zucchini
8.Crookneck squash

You’ll also want to avoid any kind of derivative of these, such as high fructose corn syrup, for example.

49 posted on 08/30/2010 8:24:43 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: CutePuppy
The Whole Soy Story: The Dark Side of America's Favorite Health Food

50 posted on 08/30/2010 8:46:30 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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