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Gunman killed inside Tennessee high school.
News & Advance ^ | 08-31-2010 | Media General News Service

Posted on 08/31/2010 5:47:09 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998

On Monday morning, Thomas Richard Cowan loaded 13 bullets into two handguns, left his German shepherd chained to the fence and drove eight miles from his home in Kingsport to Sullivan Central High School. Whatever his mission, it was the 62-year-old Vietnam veteran’s final drive.

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Cowan trained a .380-caliber semi-automatic pistol at Riden’s face, said Sullivan County Sheriff Wayne Anderson. Carolyn Gudger, the school resource officer, drew her gun, then shielded the principal’s body with her own.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunman; highschool; police; tennessee
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The police showed amazing restraint here. Far more restraint than I would have.
1 posted on 08/31/2010 5:47:15 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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I am sure that some people will come on here and criticize the police and their actions. Some might even proclaim that this guy was killed needlessly and without provocation. I bet very few will praise the police for ending the situation without anyone getting hurt except for the delusional criminal.

We’ll see. I hope I am wrong.


2 posted on 08/31/2010 5:48:32 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998

I wonder what the gunman’s FR handle was during the Ron Paul primary campaign.


3 posted on 08/31/2010 5:49:51 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: freedomwarrior998

Anybody that loads up and heads for a school needs to visit his maker.


4 posted on 08/31/2010 5:52:20 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: freedomwarrior998

More proof that guns save lives.


5 posted on 08/31/2010 5:53:11 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: wideawake
He believed the government used electro-magnetic waves to make his dog bark.

I could maybe guess a few names based on this line.

6 posted on 08/31/2010 5:54:15 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: wideawake

LOL! I wonder how many of the cop-haters will come out of the wood-work. Paultards and cop-haters tend to be synonymous.


7 posted on 08/31/2010 5:56:31 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998
I am sure that some people will come on here and criticize the police and their actions. Some might even proclaim that this guy was killed needlessly and without provocation. I bet very few will praise the police for ending the situation without anyone getting hurt except for the delusional criminal.

Oh please, don't be such a drama queen. It's unbecoming.

The LE's did their job well in this situation. That's what their paid to do. Like everyone else in the world, they only hear it when they make mistakes.

8 posted on 08/31/2010 5:58:37 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: freedomwarrior998

Whatever. I have plenty of strong opinions about crooked cops, but these guys obviously did the right thing. You fail at trolling.


9 posted on 08/31/2010 5:58:56 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
He believed the government used electro-magnetic waves to make his dog bark.

Too bad no one told him about tin foil.

10 posted on 08/31/2010 5:59:40 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: freedomwarrior998

I hope someone’s taking care of the dog.


11 posted on 08/31/2010 5:59:58 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (So, kids can't wear American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo but we'll have a mosque at Ground Zero?)
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To: wideawake

That is just plain low...


12 posted on 08/31/2010 6:01:30 AM PDT by dps.inspect (uttox)
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To: mbynack

I have found that if I use a double layer of the Kroger heavy-duty aluminum foil, that it suppresses the voices. Tin foil has become hard to find lately.

;-)


13 posted on 08/31/2010 6:01:49 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

Have you interacted with some of the more vocal cop-haters here?


14 posted on 08/31/2010 6:01:49 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998
Paultards and cop-haters tend to be synonymous.

So does bootlickers and blind GOP cheerleaders.

15 posted on 08/31/2010 6:02:26 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: freedomwarrior998
“The students were never in any danger,” he said.

FIRE this administrator, ASAP.
16 posted on 08/31/2010 6:02:44 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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“The police showed amazing restraint here. Far more restraint than I would have.”

You ain’t kidding. The guy would have met the very angry, very belching business end of Mr. Mossberg 500 or Mr. Remington 870.


17 posted on 08/31/2010 6:04:29 AM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
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To: thecabal

So we are retreating to that old standby huh? “Troll”? Why does that seem to be the refuge of those who can’t dare to have anyone else take a different opinion than they? The fact is, there are a group of individuals who rabidly hate the police, and will do anything to criticize them. They are not just here, but all over the internet. They are much more common than they were in the past, as liberals and the media have undertaken a concerted effort to smear the police in the United States. This effort was designed a long, long time ago. Conservatives typically support the police and military. Communists and liberals do not.


18 posted on 08/31/2010 6:05:50 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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Carolyn Gudger, the school resource officer, drew her gun...

Well, she certainly is mighty resourceful! Someone buy this lady a drink.

19 posted on 08/31/2010 6:09:07 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: freedomwarrior998
Interestingly, the gunman showed up a the local police station previously carrying a concealed weapon.

They showed great forbearance toward him then, as well.

He also stalked a local newspaper deliverywoman, he refused to comply with the terms of his probation, etc.

If the police failed in any regard, it was in not throwing him in prison immediately for violating probation.

20 posted on 08/31/2010 6:09:45 AM PDT by wideawake
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"...had been at a doctor’s appointment and was on her way to a music theory class as she approached the locked doors."

Here is a stupid question, are the doors of all the high schools in the US locked during school hours?

21 posted on 08/31/2010 6:10:53 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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Our local high school doors are lcked.

You have to get “buzzed in”.

That way not just anyone can walk right in. Smart, IMO.


22 posted on 08/31/2010 6:13:44 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: Blueflag

“I have found that if I use a double layer of the Kroger heavy-duty aluminum foil”

That’s the cheap cr*p. Go to a restaurant supply house like Ace Mart. They are all over the country.
Get their: http://www.acemart.com/kitchen-supplies/cookware/aluminum-cookware/aluminum-braziers/heavy-duty-aluminumclassic-selectbrazier-vol68215/prod7058.html
ITEM NO: VOL68215
“Vollrath’s 15 qt Brazier is made of heavy duty, impact resistant 1/4” 3004 aluminum. The brazier’s double-thick walls stands up to the tough knocks of a commercial kitchen. Its double-thick bottom heats more evenly than other metals. The brazier’s smooth surface is easy to clean. The heavy duty, solid welded aluminum handles are durable and factory tested tough”

You can make a chin strap and attach it to the handles.
Also works great if you ever get caught out in a hail storm. ;-)


23 posted on 08/31/2010 6:17:10 AM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Here of the day.

24 posted on 08/31/2010 6:17:27 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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Far more restraint than I would have.

they didnt go to his house and shoot the dog too...wow...

you post and initiate the negative commentary, dont cry when ya get it...

25 posted on 08/31/2010 6:19:15 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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And then she performed the brilliant tactical move of,
a) not opening fire and,
b) leading the gunman deeper into the school


26 posted on 08/31/2010 6:25:11 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: freedomwarrior998

He should have been shot dead before the police ever got there.

JMO.


27 posted on 08/31/2010 6:25:23 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

I like to call police, and the courts the welfare/section 8/public housing of security. It’s a loser, expensive, poor quality.....system. Basically a jobs program. Reading the article about this guy, the passivity people now take, are force to be passive by the security bureaucracy. In the old days this guys would of at a minimum, long before leading up to this event, been beaten, if not shot and killed by fellow citizens. Which I would of supported, and still do, and is more so supported now a days with the various castle and stand your ground laws pushed for by citizens, and opposed by the security bureaucracy.

In this case the courts, and ‘the system’ failed in not educating this guy despite many previous encounters with the ‘professionals’.

I thought the resource lady was crazy not to gun this guy down. Post Beslin/Columbine any one with a gun should live five seconds. But maybe she sensed something, which I believe, that the guy was what I call ‘decisionally crazy’. That is he was gaming the system. Odd how these guys never try to have a stand off in a biker bar, or cop bar. Always it is the official no-gun zone with the weakest.

Get rid of Police departments, free the citizens to protect themselves and their property, and cull and educated via killing, the stupid and those that have free will chosen to be criminals.


28 posted on 08/31/2010 6:26:07 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Its not “cops” that draw the ire. Its Big Brother wannabes.

The cops that are not liked:

Speed Trap Cops
DEA/SWAT that shoot dogs on a bust of a guy with marijuana
FBI agents who shoot kids, wives, and dogs of the person they set up
FBI agents that shoot you in your own farm for smoking marijuana and holding festivals
FBI agents who set a religious compound on fire during a raid to “protect the children”

Those are the bad ones. There are plenty of good ones too.

Cops that catch murderers
Cops that catch thieves
FBI agents that catch terrorists


29 posted on 08/31/2010 6:28:55 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: rickb308

Too hard to get the Brazier on while driving. ;-)

BTW, can I get a suitable helmet liner for the Brazier?


30 posted on 08/31/2010 6:31:35 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Odd this wasn’t major national news /sarc I guess only news in which people are harmed by guns is news to the MSM. Events like this just cause them needless cognitive dissonance.


31 posted on 08/31/2010 6:33:54 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Paul-haters and jackboot-lickers tend to be synonymous, too.


32 posted on 08/31/2010 6:34:16 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Congressmen should serve two terms: One in Congress and one in prison.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Would like some confirmation that he is a Vietnam Vet. Or if it is the usual ‘all VN vets are lunatics’ meme.


33 posted on 08/31/2010 6:35:04 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: freedomwarrior998
This is a tragedy, and one likely brought on by the fact that our federal government has increased the warrantless search aspect on our homes, telecommunications, and e-mail based on the increased powers originally meant to focus on Islamofascist terrorists. These laws are now used against the American people, justified by a huge influx of illegals over our Southern borders, and the related drug gang interdiction efforts etc. And our borders are still open.

Those of us who suffer mental problems are the most sensitive to the invasion of privacy, like canaries in a coal mine cage.Obviously Cowan was deranged to some extent, needed some form of intervention, but that was not to be.
He was obviously prepared to die for whatever twisted cause he had in his mind.

I blame our federal government and its increased unconstitutional warrantless invasion of our privacy and homes , for this tragedy. Those among us who are unbalanced have become the tragic victims of our government.This is not the first, if one can remember the individual acts of violence lately to the various government institutions such as the IRS , municiple offices and others over the last several years. Unfortunately schools are included as symbols of government authority in this list, in the minds of the deranged.

With any luck, perhaps we will obtain the truth about what it was that Cowan wanted. Cowan said, “10 years?” I would be most interested to know what his motive was, and what it was that touched him off. Maybe Gudger will enlighten us with the truth.But somehow, the truth likely will be spun so that Cowan will be revealed as dirty white trash, clinging bitterly to his bible and guns, and I for one will not believe a word of it.

Thank goodness that no one else was injured or killed.

34 posted on 08/31/2010 6:35:24 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Since the officer is a black female, we don’t have to worry about BO claiming she acted “stupidly”. Hopefully she will be on Fox news—it would just be icing on the cake if she is a conservative.


35 posted on 08/31/2010 6:36:49 AM PDT by Beeman
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To: freedomwarrior998

Whole lot of trauma all around.
Kids, faculty and police officers all were afraid.
Kids know a guy got shot and they now are anxious. Teachers too.
Cops had to shoot a guy even though it was a good shoot. You know they have to live with this forever.
Nobody wins here, only it was a good response as only the perp got what he deserved for bringing a loaded gun to a school.


36 posted on 08/31/2010 6:39:21 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ")
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And then she performed the brilliant tactical move of, a) not opening fire and, b) leading the gunman deeper into the school

The spin factor on this story and on any follow up promises to be very high.She had a gun, and should have used it immediately.

Hardly brilliant.Stupid more like. She obviously thought Cowan would not pull the trigger. A very stupid assumption. Stand off = you're dead.She is a very lucky woman.

The left will get all woosey over this story.She should have dropped him in his tracks as soon as she saw the gun, or when Cowan lunged for hers , as reported.Did Cowan and Gudger know each other before this incident? Weird!

37 posted on 08/31/2010 6:44:19 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Scythian

“Anybody that loads up and heads for a school needs to visit his maker.

Dittos. We no longer seem to want to kill murderers, child molesters, rapists, etc. We seem to want to study them and get to know them. I want them dead.


38 posted on 08/31/2010 6:47:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: freedomwarrior998
honors biology class, where the teacher had instructed students to put their heads on their desks in the darkened classroom.

Now say "baaaaaaaaaaaa."

Wonder what would happen if you just refused to put your head on the desk in the dark? Would anyone even notice? And how dark is it in there in 2nd period?

39 posted on 08/31/2010 6:49:53 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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The police showed amazing restraint here. Far more restraint than I would have.

By killing him just the one time?

If anything, I think the resource officer should have just dropped him when he first pointed his gun at the Principal. Dancing with him into the school where at any point some student could have walked into the situation in my opinion escalated the danger of the situation. Of course, I wasn't there and it is easy to second-guess when reading an account of the situation.

40 posted on 08/31/2010 6:50:39 AM PDT by VRWCmember ("All men make mistakes ... married men find out about them sooner" - Red Skelton)
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To: freedomwarrior998

The gunman was previously convicted of illegally carrying a concealed weapon - the same one he used at the school..

He was given probation and ordered to seek mental help.

Why didn’t they take his gun?


41 posted on 08/31/2010 6:52:19 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
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“We no longer seem to want to kill murderers, child molesters, rapists, etc.”

It’s because making ‘em dead invites so much negetivity from the cops, courts, perp’s family, lawsuits, etc.

We need more Judge Roy Bean types on the courts.
“Gentlemen, I find the law very explicit on murdering your fellow man, but there’s nothing here about killing a Chinaman. Case dismissed.”


42 posted on 08/31/2010 6:53:56 AM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
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To: Candor7; SJSAMPLE
And then she performed the brilliant tactical move of, a) not opening fire and, b) leading the gunman deeper into the school

...Hardly brilliant.Stupid more like.

I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that SJS's "brilliant tactical move" comment had sarcasm tags around the phrase "brilliant tactical move". The situation clearly called for an immediate "shoot to stop" response to prevent the deranged assailant from shooting the Principal or students and the officer instead tried to talk him down.

43 posted on 08/31/2010 6:55:49 AM PDT by VRWCmember ("All men make mistakes ... married men find out about them sooner" - Red Skelton)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Suicide by cop.


44 posted on 08/31/2010 6:58:58 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

“And how dark is it in there in 2nd period?”

Don’t know about theirs, but mine was dark enough to sleep the whole semester away. LOL


45 posted on 08/31/2010 6:59:24 AM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
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To: smokingfrog

Because he wasn’t a member of a DOJ identified terrorist group like GOA?


46 posted on 08/31/2010 7:00:18 AM PDT by jospehm20
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I’d love to see a poll of trained LEO and civilians, detailing which portion of instruction covered bargaining and maneuvering with an armed intruder.

Insane that people don’t see how weak she was. All she did was pull her issued weapon and then not follow-through on her training and her DUTY.

It took real cops to come finish the job, properly.


47 posted on 08/31/2010 7:01:13 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Conservatives typically support the police and military. Communists and liberals do not.

Thus the dynamic of FR. Police who do the lawful job they are supposed to do get 100% of my support. Those who do otherwise are judged on their actions, not their uniform.

48 posted on 08/31/2010 7:04:01 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: squarebarb
Would like some confirmation that he is a Vietnam Vet. Or if it is the usual ‘all VN vets are lunatics’ meme.

Oh, I don't know.....I'd like to think that I have a few moments of sanity occasionally.

But then again, maybe I'm crazy to think that.

49 posted on 08/31/2010 7:06:53 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Gilbo_3
you post and initiate the negative commentary, dont cry when ya get it...

How do you turn the compliment "Far more restraint than I would have" into a negative commentary?

50 posted on 08/31/2010 7:07:21 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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