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Poll: Manchin's lead slim in W.Va. Senate race (another seat now in play for possible pickup)
The Hill ^ | 08/31/10 | Shane D'Aprile

Posted on 08/31/2010 5:14:10 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat

West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin (D) was supposed to have an easy road to the Senate once Rep. Shelley Moore Capito (R) decided against challenging him in November's special election.

But the latest Rasmussen poll on the race shows Republican businessman John Raese within six points of the popular governor.

Manchin is running in a special election to fill out the remainder of the late Sen. Robert Byrd's (D) term.

The new poll gives Manchin 48 percent of the vote to Raese's 42. Another 4 percent prefer another candidate, and 7 percent remain undecided. The survey polled 500 likely voters and has a margin of error of plus-or-minus 4.5 percentage points.

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Among the 34 percent of voters who just "somewhat approve" of the job Manchin is doing as governor, 64 percent strongly disapprove of the president's performance. Raese also holds a 45-40 edge among unaffiliated voters in the state.

The Raese campaign quickly trumpeted the results of the poll in an e-mail blast, while Manchin's camp dismissed Rasmussen as a "Republican pollster."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: countryroad; manchin; mountainmama; raese; takemehome; westvirginia
John Raese for Senate
1 posted on 08/31/2010 5:14:16 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Ask ole Joe if would vote for Harry Reid for Majority Leader


2 posted on 08/31/2010 5:19:19 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: RightGeek

There’s a video of Manchin supporting Obama and Obamacare:

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/program/ID/220989&start=4192&end=4268


3 posted on 08/31/2010 5:22:52 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: RightGeek

In the Senate, they don’t actually vote for Majority Leader; the leader of the party with the most members in its caucus automatically becomes majority leader. Thus, the question to Manchin would be “if you are elected, would you caucus with the Democrats even though it would make a liberal Democrat such as Chuck Schumer or Dick Durbin Majority Leader?”


4 posted on 08/31/2010 5:31:48 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Until today, this wasn't even on the conservative radar.

Now we have to ask the question: Will it be a 10-seat pick-up, or 11?

5 posted on 08/31/2010 5:33:19 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Thanks for expressing it much better than I did.


6 posted on 08/31/2010 5:34:18 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Republican Wildcat

WV votes Republican in presidential races. Byrd was similiar to Kennedy. He’d been there so long and the people in the state seemed to personally like him. With him gone a Republican winning is possible but it depends on the candidate, quality of the campaign and really how addicted they are to pork. There is no reason a conservative can’t win here however. This is a race conservatives should aggressively involve themselves in.


7 posted on 08/31/2010 5:47:18 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (?)
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To: Republican Wildcat
This is one of 4 seats if my memory is correct that would be sworn in right away.

They also include:

Obama's Seat
Biden's Seat
And Hillary's Seat

If we get 2 or even all 4 Reid ain't got doodley-sqwat, his days of 60 easy votes for Cloture are finito...

The Obamatrain and the Lame Duck Session are then officially over..

8 posted on 08/31/2010 5:59:01 PM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

Thanks Republican Wildcat.


9 posted on 08/31/2010 6:00:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Republican Wildcat

What a wonderful thought—a republican taking Byrd’s spot. Lets all contribute as much as we can to make it happen. Republican control of the Senate is in sight.


10 posted on 08/31/2010 6:04:33 PM PDT by liberalcide1
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To: Republican Wildcat
Your excerpt, "Among the 34 percent of voters who just "somewhat approve" of the job Manchin is doing as governor..." is somewhat misleading. According to the article, Manchine has an overall favorable rating of 70%. IMO, he's not done a bad job as governor and this could be a very good thing. My fellow Mountaineers may not want to lose him to the Senate.
11 posted on 08/31/2010 6:12:49 PM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Roccus

How is that misleading? It means exactly what it says.


12 posted on 08/31/2010 7:49:11 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Soul Seeker

The GOP switch for WV didn’t start until 2000...it is relatively new to the Red State column. An exception was Reagan’s landslide in 1984.


13 posted on 08/31/2010 7:50:41 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: WVNan

here you go


14 posted on 08/31/2010 7:52:09 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Roccus

You WILL lose him to be a rubber stamp for obama if he becomes a Senator, its how DC works.

Anyone who thinkg Manchin will be any different from the other ‘blue dog’ Pelosi poodles and Reid cronies and Obama Democrats is fooling themselves.


15 posted on 08/31/2010 8:16:12 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: WOSG

Correctamundo.


16 posted on 08/31/2010 8:19:38 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mariner
Now we have to ask the question: Will it be a 10-seat pick-up, or 11?
It's going to be an 11 or 12 seat pick-up.
AR, IN, ND, NV, CO, PA, WA, CA, DE, WI, CT, WV
 
17 posted on 08/31/2010 8:54:38 PM PDT by counterpunch (Imam B'araq Hussein Mohammad 0bama, President of the 57 States of Islam.)
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To: Mariner

We may lose AZ though.
It would be an acceptable loss.


18 posted on 08/31/2010 8:56:16 PM PDT by counterpunch (Imam B'araq Hussein Mohammad 0bama, President of the 57 States of Islam.)
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To: counterpunch

I don’t think we should hope for McCain cratering as that could adversely affect down ticket races, including some very conservative candidates who won house races such as Jesse Kelly in Arizona 8. I don’t like McCain as I don’t trust him given his past (although if he maintains his grudge against Obama, he might not be too bad), but I don’t dislike him enough to hope he loses and drags people down like Jesse Kelly.


19 posted on 08/31/2010 9:15:17 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat; Roccus

Wow! I had no idea that John stood a chance against Joe, but it looks like it might be possible. Guess we have work to do. This one will take boots on the ground and lots of phone work. I think Roccus has a point. I had thought the same thing, that the 70 percenters might not want to lose Gov. Manchin. This could get interesting. Thanks for the ping.


20 posted on 08/31/2010 9:42:51 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Republican Wildcat

I’m not hoping he loses so much as acknowledging the reality that there are enough Tea Partiers in AZ ready to leave the ballot blank on the question of senator to possibly throw the seat to the Democrat.

The best scenario is a viable Tea Party candidate who could win running against the RINO and the Demo in November.

That would give AZ voters an alternative to 2 liberals.


21 posted on 08/31/2010 9:58:46 PM PDT by counterpunch (Imam B'araq Hussein Mohammad 0bama, President of the 57 States of Islam.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

My point here is a bit off topic, but only a bit.

Everyone focuses on picking up enoough seats for the Republicans to take control of the House and Senate. The House is a foregone conclusion, so consider the Senate. The point that everyone is missing is that the Dems made their big advances in 2006 and 2008. So to my way of thinking it really is NOT control after this election in 2010 that people should focus on. I am amazed at what, say, an 8-seat pickup in 2010 means for 2012 and 2014.

In my very restrained scenario, the Dems lose 65 seats in the House, 8 Senate seats, almost the entire country in terms of governor slots (which are key to redistricting) and Obama finds himself even less popular in Feb. 2011 than he is now. Even if the Dems can “limit” their losses to this, they will (and should be) in full panic mode, because at that point they face the likely prospect of utter annhilation in 2012 and 2014 when the great majority of Senate incumbents up for election will be Democrats; and where redistricting makes even more Dems in the House highly vulnerable.

Like everyone else, I’m hoping that the Republicans take the Senate and capture more than 65 seats in the House. But my point is that regardless, this election is shaping up to be a tsunami for the Republicans.


22 posted on 09/01/2010 4:05:08 AM PDT by drellberg
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To: AuH2ORepublican

the leader of the party with the most members in its caucus automatically becomes majority leader

Well, the question remains. How does the “leader” of the majority party become it’s “leader?”


23 posted on 09/01/2010 4:53:08 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952

The caucus for each party votes. It is an internal vote, so if Manchin doesn’t vote for Reid and votes for, say, Ben Nelson instead, Reid would still win the vote and become Majority Leader if there are at least 50 Senators in the Democrat caucus (including independents Lieberman and Sanders; Biden breaks the tie). It would be far different if the vote was on the floor and Manchin was the 50th Democrat, where not voting for Reid would allow McCollum to win 50-49.


24 posted on 09/01/2010 6:13:29 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Soul Seeker

“This is a race conservatives should aggressively involve themselves in.”

I love all these unknowns and outsiders making good this year! Is this seat’s election on Nov. 2?


25 posted on 09/01/2010 7:37:58 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14! God, Family, Church, Country - 11/2010, 11/2012 - Tea Party like it's 1773!)
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To: taildragger

If we get 2 or even all 4 Reid ain’t got doodley-sqwat, his days of 60 easy votes for Cloture are finito...

The Obamatrain and the Lame Duck Session are then officially over..
+++++++++++++++++++

How huge is that? Hugh and Series, I tell ya...;)


26 posted on 09/01/2010 7:39:18 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14! God, Family, Church, Country - 11/2010, 11/2012 - Tea Party like it's 1773!)
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To: Roccus

“IMO, he’s not done a bad job as governor and this could be a very good thing. My fellow Mountaineers may not want to lose him to the Senate.”

Why is he a RAT? May have been different in the past but I don’t trust anyone in that party - even if they seem ‘well intentioned’ or seem to be doing a good job. Fact is, they are caucusing with a socialist party and they need to be asked and answer the question WHY? Mebbe he should switch parties?


27 posted on 09/01/2010 7:57:09 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14! God, Family, Church, Country - 11/2010, 11/2012 - Tea Party like it's 1773!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
“I don’t like McCain as I don’t trust him given his past (although if he maintains his grudge against Obama, he might not be too bad), but I don’t dislike him enough to hope he loses and drags people down like Jesse Kelly.”

Well said, and we need to keep our RINOs on a close tether til we can defeat them. Bringing a true Conservative renaissance will require that we govern well (as indeed, and amazingly, it looks like we may have a chance to do in 2012.)

28 posted on 09/01/2010 8:02:19 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14! God, Family, Church, Country - 11/2010, 11/2012 - Tea Party like it's 1773!)
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To: counterpunch

“acknowledging the reality that there are enough Tea Partiers in AZ ready to leave the ballot blank on the question of senator”

As hard as it is to say and acknowledge - a 65% with us McCain, with all his warts and tendencies to betray us - is better than a 25% with us RAT. I mean we all KNOW John McCain at this point - he is no surprise to us.


29 posted on 09/01/2010 8:06:53 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14! God, Family, Church, Country - 11/2010, 11/2012 - Tea Party like it's 1773!)
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To: drellberg

“Like everyone else, I’m hoping that the Republicans take the Senate and capture more than 65 seats in the House. But my point is that regardless, this election is shaping up to be a tsunami for the Republicans.”

Well placed comments about 2012 and 2014. Not to get ahead of ourselves but Conservatives need to prove our value in helping to bring about an American revival. As we do that people may trust us with the reigns of the POTUS in 2012 - but the country is going to be ROUGH shape and none of this is going to be easy. We need strong leaders (Reagan-esque) who will take tough steps and help us take the tough medicine (eliminating debt and spending like Paul Akers great 10/10/10 plan in WA ST that never really caught on with the leftists out here).

We also need to DEAL with the idiotic fractional reserve money system based on debt based money - but we must get control and make government accountable first imho.

Along these lines will be enacting term limits for both the House and the Senate in the next 4 years or so. This will be like a civil war with the detestable political/ruling class - but one we MUST fight to reign in the fed gubmint.


30 posted on 09/01/2010 8:13:32 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14! God, Family, Church, Country - 11/2010, 11/2012 - Tea Party like it's 1773!)
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To: liberalcide1

Ain’t payback a b*tch? LOL! I love it. This has been a great year watching Dems. taking nose dives. About time the right-wingers woke up.Hope we’re not too late.


31 posted on 09/01/2010 8:27:32 AM PDT by shiva
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To: drellberg

Really good article on RedState.com about your discussion of 2012, 2014 and ‘not blowing it!’

http://www.redstate.com/oz/2010/09/01/the-gop-could-easily-be-back-in-the-wilderness-in-2014/


32 posted on 09/01/2010 8:27:58 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (Pray 2 Chronicles 7:14! God, Family, Church, Country - 11/2010, 11/2012 - Tea Party like it's 1773!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

McConnell.

McCollum is the FL Attorney General who is suing over Obamacare. Recently lost in the primary for FL Governor, however.


33 posted on 09/01/2010 8:34:49 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

D’oh! Yes, Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is the Senate Minority Leader, while Bill McCollum (R-FL) is the AG (and former Congressman and Clinton impeachmwent manager) who was defeated by Rick Scott in the gubernatorial primary and is now refusing to endorse Scott.


34 posted on 09/01/2010 9:12:17 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: drellberg
governor slots (which are key to redistricting)

I think in most states the state legislature is the key to redistricting. Perhaps governors play a larger role in other states. I know in TN, the GOP wave this election will mean cementing substantial leads in the state legislature. After redistricting, we should pick up a seat or two - at least - in the US House.

You will know it has been a total A+ night if Alabama state legislature goes GOP. That is one of the most conservative states but the Dems have somehow been able to retain majorities, I think, for the last 20 years when you wouldn't think they would. Much is due to the power of being able to draw the districts.

35 posted on 09/01/2010 10:37:22 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: counterpunch
Now we have to ask the question: Will it be a 10-seat pick-up, or 11?

It's going to be an 11 or 12 seat pick-up.
AR, IN, ND, NV, CO, PA, WA, CA, DE, WI, CT, WV
I left one off: IL.
So it's going to be more like 12 or 13.
 
36 posted on 09/04/2010 5:11:45 AM PDT by counterpunch (Imam B'araq Hussein Mohammad 0bama, President of the 57 States of Islam.)
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To: counterpunch
Now we have to ask the question: Will it be a 10-seat pick-up, or 11?

It's going to be an 11 or 12 seat pick-up.
AR, IN, ND, NV, CO, PA, WA, CA, DE, WI, CT, WV
I left one off: IL.
So it's going to be more like 12 or 13.
 
37 posted on 09/04/2010 5:12:03 AM PDT by counterpunch (Imam B'araq Hussein Mohammad 0bama, President of the 57 States of Islam.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
"Nuf said....


38 posted on 09/04/2010 5:34:56 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Skin-color counters are bigots!!!!!!!!!!....(thanks paulycy))
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