Skip to comments.California bill to ban plastic bags fails
Posted on 09/01/2010 9:50:20 AM PDT by MissTed
Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- California's Senate has voted down a measure that would have banned plastic bags at grocery stores.
The new ban was rejected by a 21 to 14 vote late Tuesday. The ban would have included grocery stores, convenience stores and drugstores.
The California Assembly passed the legislation in June.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger had said he would have signed the measure into law, the Los Angeles Times reported.
Environmental groups such as the Sierra Club encouraged Californians to contact their state senators to push for the measure.
The group Heal the Bay produced what it calls a "mockumentary," narrated by actor Jeremy Irons, called "The Majestic Plastic Bag" that charts the life of a plastic bag. The video is on YouTube.
The measure had its opponents, too.
The American Chemistry Council criticized California Assemblywoman Julia Brownley, D-Santa Monica, who proposed the bill.
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And I am delighted! A drop of sanity in an ocean of crazy!
I don’t see why we all can’t bring our own bags and eliminate
the paper and plastic.
"That's a relief!"
I recycle my store plastic bags as trash bags and doggie waste disposal. If they banned them I would just have to buy plastic bags to use for that. These people are so stupid and short sighted.
You are welcome to do what you want. It is the legislating the rest to do the same that FReepers have a problem with.
The same crowd that is unwilling to protect an unborn baby is perfectly willing to mandate toilet tank size, manner of light bulbs you use (for energy consumption, not toxicity), thermostat temperature, etc.
You certainly have that option.
Big dogs, big poop.
The bags can be made biodegradable.
Where’s that bill that bans tin foils? That’s what I want to know.
Considering the fix that California is in. Well having a bill about Plastic Bags shows why they are in such a mess.
And you reminded me. I hate my low flow toilet.
person who proposed the bill
Because I use my plastic bags for my bathroom and kitty liter disposal.
You bring you own bags and stay the heck out of my business. I’ll continue to use plastic.....double, of course.
Pretty much CA is ruled by idiots. I’m glad I don’t live there, altho FL has issues too.
Ban plastic bags, ban plastic water bottles, ban this, ban that. What are they going to ban next - chewing gum?
How about enforcing litter laws? How about enforcing recycling? How about punishing those who are not responsible enough?
Not at all surprising to find out the Sierra Club favors large scale breeding of salmonela and 3-coli ~ which is what happens when you substitute cloth sacks for throw away plastic bags.
To each his own, but if you’re thinking “save the planet”, I have bad news. Plastic bags aren’t the problem.
Want to save the environment? Mandate that all vibrators must use rechargable batteries.
“How about punishing those who are not responsible enough?”
Punish people whom the government feels is not “responsible enough”?! You’re kidding, yes? Tell me you’re kidding.
The problem comes when garbage is dumped into international waters.
But then no one has ever pushed for the mob to go green.
Nancy Pelosi must feel relieved.
Thanks, you beat me to it. I’m actually stunned that common sense and public health prevailed in this case. CA usually goes the other way.
Now if we can just repeal the windmills and solar panels mandate and open up some oil fields, sanity may be on its way back in...
I guess you don’t recycle used plastic bags?
I’ve had plastic bags attach themselves to the
undercarriage of my car and burn.
Something about my car seems to attract them. grrrr
A similar tax in Ireland cut bag usage by 90%.
+1 for the people.
-1 for the environuts.
Many people recycle these bags for dog poop, etc. And most of us (particularly those who walk) don’t want to carry ugly bags everywhere just in case we decide to make a purchase.
Not saying there should be a law. Just saying, I use my bags and I hate the plastic crap that tears. If anyone else has the want to, they shouldn’t hesitate to do so.
Try keeping things in context, ok?
Enforcing litter and recycling laws.
You should learn to use a canvas bag. As with groceries. < /sarc >
Ban plastic bags fails?
Nancy Pelosi must feel relieved.
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You win Post of the Day!
I guess you dont recycle used plastic bags?
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The grocery store has asked that I stop bringing mine back to place in their recycle bins.
Really big dogs, +100 lbs.
Rinse and repeat.
Our issues here are with Northern Nazis and other Aliens that want to impose the FAILED liberal Agenda that sank the Rust belt.
Notes on coming Elections: how many candidates are born and raised here?
How many want to see us adopt LIBERAL polices?
“Northern Nazis” does not include all YANKEES!
The plastic crap DOES tear. It’s made from recycled milk jugs. Almost makes you wonder why those are recycled if that is to be the end product.
The stores I’ve seen that use them know that they tear so they double bag every plastic bag. And it is not uncommon to see the baggers having 5-10 little bags of purchases for one customer.
Paper grocery sacks aren’t what they once were either and some stores now double bag those as well.
I you don’t mind rinsing things with dog feces on them.
A store my wife goes to sells canvas bags with nice strong straps for very cheap. She uses them over and over and can even wash them.
Seems to me to be a good solution. No plastic bags with straps that either break or dig into your hands and then get dumped and wind up all over the place, and no paper meaning less trees cut.
It works for us.
You could even hope that they would be stiff enough to stand up on there own and allow easy loading of the groceries
Plastic bags are useful.
Besides, sometimes the bag is part of the shopping experience. Which would explain why leftists hate them. Make life as unpleasant as possible, that's their motto.
Biodegradability is not really an issue even though most people think it is.
Plastic packaging is routinely criticized because it doesn’t decay in landfills, but neither does most other packaging. Paper, cardboard and other organic materials-while technically biodegradable-tend to remain intact in the airless confines of a landfill. These mummified materials actually use much more landfill space than plastic packaging. 12 plastic grocery bags will fit in the space occupied by one paper bag.
Wash your food thoroughly, clean the counter with strong antiseptics, and cook everything to at least 180 degrees for 2 minutes.
That man-head needs a bag over it (plastic or paper).
Biodegradable Plastic Bags
You are right about that.
I have 4 bags about 16 in x 16 in x 16 in D,
made from hemp and they are the strongest
I fill myself and I can get approx. 8 plastic bags worth
in 2 hemp bags. Long straps and short straps so
I can carry over my shoulder or by hand.
The only thing is you have to remember to grab them from the car.
I remember the advent of plastic bags in the 70’s. They were touted by the environmentally ‘conscious’ of the day as being an attractive alternative to destroying living trees for the sake of paper bags. Granolas were walking around asking each other, “Do you know how many trees had to die to make that bag”? Never mind that the answer was in the neighborhood of 1/10000th of one tree, it was the sentiment that mattered apparently. Giant Foods even issued books (printed on paper) celebrating their socially responsive policies. Concurrently, they also dedicated an aisle in the store to Generic products. No brand names, just the product name in black and white. Paper Towels, macaroni, maple syrup, and my favorite, Beer which was surprisingly good (and cheap!). Just a white can with one word printed on it in black...BEER. It still makes me laugh just thinking about it. I’m sorry, what were we talking about? Oh right, you tried those gel inserts for your shoes...so what did you think? Do they work? Uh huh. Uh huh.