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Stephen Hawking: God was not needed to create the Universe
Daily Telegraph ^ | 02 Sep 2010 | Laura Roberts

Posted on 09/02/2010 6:21:27 AM PDT by tlb

The Big Bang was the result of the inevitable laws of physics and did not need God to spark the creation of the Universe, Stephen Hawking has concluded.

In his latest book, The Grand Design, an extract of which is published in Eureka magazine in The Times, Hawking said: “Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist.”

“It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the Universe going.”

In June this year Prof Hawking told a Channel 4 series that he didn't believe that a "personal" God existed. He told Genius of Britain: "The question is: is the way the universe began chosen by God for reasons we can't understand, or was it determined by a law of science? I believe the second. If you like, you can call the laws of science 'God', but it wouldn't be a personal God that you could meet, and ask questions."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: atheismandstate; atheist; atheistsupremacist; bigbang; book; god; hawking; stephenhawking; thenogodgod
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I guess that settles that. It's always interesting to be reminded Hawking is British. He doesn't sound English.
1 posted on 09/02/2010 6:21:32 AM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb

Funny that he thinks that the universe can be created from nothing and yet can’t fathom the idea of God. Pitiful, little man. Just a thought


2 posted on 09/02/2010 6:23:06 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: tlb

“The Big Bang was the result of the inevitable laws of physics and did not need God to spark the creation of the Universe, Stephen Hawking has concluded.”

Where’d those laws of physics come from Stevie?


3 posted on 09/02/2010 6:23:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: tlb

Small wonder his wife beat him.


4 posted on 09/02/2010 6:23:29 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm really not Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: tlb

Do you know that Hawking cannot speak?

His COMPUTER voice does not have a british accent either


5 posted on 09/02/2010 6:23:33 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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To: tlb
First there was nothing.

Then it exploded.

6 posted on 09/02/2010 6:23:37 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: tlb

seriously, this guy is so overrated.


7 posted on 09/02/2010 6:23:49 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: tlb

The fool sayeth in his heart “There is no God.”


8 posted on 09/02/2010 6:24:04 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Boogieman

Agreed. Where did gravity come from?


9 posted on 09/02/2010 6:24:24 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: tlb

THEN BY WHAT PROCESS WAS THE UNIVERSE CREATED, GENIUS?

By your own admission, Hawking, your statement of faith is more ridiculous than any religion’s: I have faith that something created something, and you have faith that nothing created something.

If you can give one example, in this universe, of spontaneous creation, your statement might make sense.


10 posted on 09/02/2010 6:25:12 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: tlb
That is like saying that because you didn't see the architect homeowner and financier show up at the job site to personally pound nails and pour concrete, he was not needed to create the house.
11 posted on 09/02/2010 6:25:15 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: tlb

“Hey - get your own dirt.”


12 posted on 09/02/2010 6:25:25 AM PDT by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: tlb
Because there is a law such as gravity,

I wish one of these eggheads would kindly explain to us unwashed ignoramusii just how those "laws" came into being to begin with. I totally believe in the Big Bang, but "someone" had to pull the trigger. ; )

13 posted on 09/02/2010 6:26:00 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Had enough, yet?)
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To: tlb
furthermore, Hawking must be sure the “law of science” just invented itself out of .....

All scientists know that matter acts and assembles into meaningful function with no underlying information to design and direct it.

“Information Happens, then Sh@t happens”

right?

14 posted on 09/02/2010 6:26:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: tlb
If you like, you can call the laws of science 'God'...

There it is! The leftist manifesto in a nutshell!

15 posted on 09/02/2010 6:26:24 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

He’d just pissed off at God... poor guy, he could be in for a new body and mind if he were so inclined...


16 posted on 09/02/2010 6:26:26 AM PDT by dps.inspect (uttox)
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To: ShadowAce
First there was nothing. Then it exploded.

Makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? -sarc

17 posted on 09/02/2010 6:26:55 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: ShadowAce

Nothin’ from nothin’ leaves nothin’
You gotta have somethin’
If you wanna be with me


18 posted on 09/02/2010 6:27:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: tlb

I’m quite perplexed by a person whose imagination can grasp the wonders unknown and unseen of this universe, yet cannot grasp the notion of an intelligence or a consciousness higher than that of man. Why must science and religion be a zero sum game?


19 posted on 09/02/2010 6:27:28 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: tlb
“Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing.

A law without a lawgiver.

A creation without a creator.

An effect without a cause.

What a brilliant man.

/s

20 posted on 09/02/2010 6:27:40 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Nations, and individuals, ignore nature and Nature’s God at their own peril.)
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To: momtothree; tlb
Hawking said: “Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing.

So, why is there a law such as gravity? Mr Hawking is a smart man (although not a wise one) and he has succeeded in pushing back the boundaries of "starting points" more than most. But he has not explained everything. There is always a "why".

21 posted on 09/02/2010 6:27:40 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: tlb

Someday he will meet his maker and answer for his arrogance.


22 posted on 09/02/2010 6:27:54 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: allmendream
Make that... the architect, homeowner, financier, owner of the construction company, trainer of the worker, builder of the raw materials, etc.

Yeah, unless he came on the job site and pounded those nails personally- HE wasn't needed.

23 posted on 09/02/2010 6:27:58 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: tlb
Neither was Stephen Hawking.
24 posted on 09/02/2010 6:28:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: tlb
"Spontaneous creation"?

Yawn.

Where did the forces come from that enabled this "spontaneous creation"? Gravity created itself?

Does this kind of intellectual laziness pass for "science" these days?

25 posted on 09/02/2010 6:29:46 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: tlb

There was no chicken, just the egg said a different way.


26 posted on 09/02/2010 6:29:53 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: tlb

One day science will have answered all the questions in the universe except one.

And then they will refuse to answer that one remaining question because it will prove beyond doubt that God exists.

And God will laugh.


27 posted on 09/02/2010 6:29:53 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: allmendream

Why would the universe bother to create itself.


28 posted on 09/02/2010 6:30:06 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ShadowAce

gee, I could have said it that way!
LOL!!


29 posted on 09/02/2010 6:30:12 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: dps.inspect

1 Cor 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.


30 posted on 09/02/2010 6:30:14 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

Ah, the highly underrated Billy Preston.


31 posted on 09/02/2010 6:30:34 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Boogieman
Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us
32 posted on 09/02/2010 6:30:42 AM PDT by mkjessup ("Wait by the river and your enemies will float by" - old Japanese proverb, and I'm waitin'.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
seriously, this guy is so overrated.

Anyone who's read A Short History of Time knows that.

33 posted on 09/02/2010 6:30:49 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity. - Dr. Wm R. Thompson)
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To: tlb

I am sure that God laughed at him for such a thought!


34 posted on 09/02/2010 6:30:59 AM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: momtothree

Really!!

What the f&^% is the universe (or anything else for that matter) WITHOUT the consciousness of man?


35 posted on 09/02/2010 6:31:05 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Hey, ALL paths lead to God...
yes, they certainly do.

All but one path leads to God as JUDGE,
and that one narrow path leads to God as Savior.


36 posted on 09/02/2010 6:31:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: tlb
God Stephen Hawking was not needed to create the Universe.

There. Fixed it!

37 posted on 09/02/2010 6:31:41 AM PDT by PacesPaines
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To: tlb

And here I thought Hawking was intelligent.


38 posted on 09/02/2010 6:31:45 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about The Stainless Banner - a free e-zine dedicated to the armies of the Confederacy.)
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To: tlb

Hey Stephen,

Romans 1 will help explain your thinking...

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools


39 posted on 09/02/2010 6:31:45 AM PDT by steadcom
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To: tlb

Hawking has no more insight into questions like that then any random guy on the street.


40 posted on 09/02/2010 6:32:46 AM PDT by DManA
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To: mkjessup

This is why I am not an atheist; it takes too much faith...


41 posted on 09/02/2010 6:32:50 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: mkjessup

Humans, according to the left/atheists:

“imageo GOO”


42 posted on 09/02/2010 6:32:50 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: tlb

“Because there is a law such as gravity..”

And WHO designed the law?

Like many intellectuals, Hawking can’t see the forest for the trees.

But given his horrific persoanl situation I am lothe to criticize him personally. He was bound to come out a True Believer or an Atheist.


43 posted on 09/02/2010 6:32:50 AM PDT by ZULU (God, guts and guns made America great,)
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To: tlb

Poor man. I feel sorry for him.


44 posted on 09/02/2010 6:32:56 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Boogieman

God is the “Intelligent Designer”.

Otherwise, you must believe that a box filled with watch parts can be shaken (not stirred) and when opened - a completed watch that works perfectly!


45 posted on 09/02/2010 6:33:03 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Because men love the darkness...


46 posted on 09/02/2010 6:33:34 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about The Stainless Banner - a free e-zine dedicated to the armies of the Confederacy.)
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To: tlb

This dude needs to dump his bag.


47 posted on 09/02/2010 6:33:53 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I believe in man-made political climate change.)
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To: ShadowAce

Best Post so far!


48 posted on 09/02/2010 6:34:18 AM PDT by edcoil (I can't fix stupid.)
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To: tlb

He has descended into lunacy. I guess he has abandoned his earlier delusional “multiverse” theory which he manufactured out of this air deal with the fact (as he acknowledged) that the anthropic theory pointed unerringly to a creator. So now he going with the theory that something that didn’t exist created itself out of nothing. That this violates every law of logic, physics and common sense is immaterial to him. “Thinking themselves wise they became fools.”


49 posted on 09/02/2010 6:34:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: tlb

I got this nifty self-winding watch. It’s beautiful and runs itself by the laws of physics. But that doesn’t mean there wasn’t a watchmaker, let alone a watch designer involved in making it self-sustaining.

The fear of death is strong but I think the fear of truth is stronger. Too many people don’t want to admit a personal God because it means they must examine their own personal lives in accordance with the words of that personal God. They prefer an impersonal God who doesn’t care about their choices in life, or a nonexistent God.


50 posted on 09/02/2010 6:34:41 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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