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Bottled water company sued in Indiana worker's death
WTHR-13 (Indianapolis) ^ | 9/1/10 | n/a

Posted on 09/02/2010 5:20:42 PM PDT by DemforBush

Franklin - The family of a woman who died after a pallet of bottled water fell on her at a Kroger store in central Indiana is suing the water bottler, arguing a new eco-friendly bottle design might have contributed to the accident...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: accident; lawsuit; workplace
We'll see where this one goes. The pallet weighed in excess of two tons, but I don't know how the weight is distributed or how much the strength of the bottles comes into play.

Either way, prayers up for Ms. Keen. What an awful way to go.

1 posted on 09/02/2010 5:20:45 PM PDT by DemforBush
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To: DemforBush

those plastics are very very thin. I can see how even a slight weight shift could cause a problem. of course, I absolutely hate regular 2ltr bottles. the bottom design causes them to constantly fall over in the fridge.


2 posted on 09/02/2010 5:25:01 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote! DeMint, 2012)
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To: DemforBush

That would have been a huge pallet of water all right. That would be about 2,000,000 pints, 1,000,000 quarts, 250,000 gallons neglecting packaging weight.


3 posted on 09/02/2010 5:26:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: DemforBush
Ambulance Chaser: "Are you kidding? Kroger's is one thousandth the size of Nestle! Forget them and go for the gusto!"

I doubt the grieving family of this poor woman came up with this suit themselves.

4 posted on 09/02/2010 5:26:49 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: DemforBush

Oh dog. 2,000 pints more like it. Sorry.


5 posted on 09/02/2010 5:27:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: DemforBush
It's unclear. First says store and then warehouse. was she an employee? how many pallets were stacked? the new bottles are very weak... she probably has a case....


6 posted on 09/02/2010 5:27:29 PM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: wideawake

Usually suits like this name jointly anybody who might have liability in the matter. I can’t believe Kroger is just getting left out willy nilly.


7 posted on 09/02/2010 5:29:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: DemforBush
I don't know how the weight is distributed or how much the strength of the bottles comes into play.

It definitely comes into play. The new bottles are made of much thinner plastic so they have a lower compressive strength. Unfortunately, they still put the same number of bottles in a pack so it's the same volume and weight of water with weaker bottles. The bottles probably collapsed on one side of the pallet, and the pallet on top slid down and over, right on top of her.

8 posted on 09/02/2010 5:30:04 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: AndrewB

Priceless. Very funny man.

He was a noted person’s son. Can’t remember who.

Wonder what he’s doing nowadays.


9 posted on 09/02/2010 5:30:11 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: DemforBush

Two related stories appear with the one referenced. In one, security cameras caught the mishap. Keen was checking in a shipment of bottled water when a palette from the shipment fell on her. She was rushed to the hospital immediately after and died five days later. The accident happened in March.

The second story is about Kroger being fined by OSHA for their role in the accident. OSHA began their investigation the same day the accident occurred.


10 posted on 09/02/2010 5:31:29 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: DemforBush

Nestle Pure Life: A healthier future, one sip at a time!

http://www.nestle-purelife.us/


11 posted on 09/02/2010 5:32:10 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: DemforBush

Also, a safety warning. Don’t try to drink the bottle cap, it’s dangerous to your health!

http://www.nestle-purelife.us/about/safety.asp


12 posted on 09/02/2010 5:34:00 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Phil Morris; son of Mission Impossible’s Greg Morris. Phil still portrays ‘Martian Manhunter’ on ‘Smallville’...


13 posted on 09/02/2010 5:34:24 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: DemforBush
“.. a pallet of bottled water fell on her ..”

Fell? Really!? I'm reminded of a journalist who recently recalled the World Trade Center's twin towers “falling”, as if Muhammad Ata’s suicide mission had nothing to do with it and that gravity alone was responsible. Nonsense!

Pallets don't just “fall” like Newton's apple or a drop of rain. They require some outside force for them to move. My guess is the woman in question did something to precipitate the pallet's fall on her.

14 posted on 09/02/2010 5:34:57 PM PDT by Mobties
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To: HiTech RedNeck
250,000 gallons neglecting packaging weight.

Just under 2 million pounds? You're math appears to be off.

15 posted on 09/02/2010 5:37:47 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: who knows what evil?

Yes, that’s it. Thanks

I’ll have to check out Smallville
and see the character he’s playing.

He made a good comedian.


16 posted on 09/02/2010 5:47:50 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: DemforBush
... a new eco-friendly bottle design might have contributed to the accident...

How ironic.

17 posted on 09/02/2010 5:48:05 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston
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To: HiTech RedNeck

A pint’s a pound the world around?

You’re off by three orders of magnitude on the converson of tons to pounds though.

It’s a lot closer to 480 gallons of water.


18 posted on 09/02/2010 5:48:05 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: wideawake
She may be limited to a workmens comp award (which is much smaller) if she's an employee of Kroger- so she's going after Nestle. This could wipe Farfel out.

19 posted on 09/02/2010 5:48:30 PM PDT by Krankor (I had too much to dream last night, too much to dream.)
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To: Malsua
I recall the expression from grade school: “a pint's a pound the world around”.
What I don't recall is whether the equivalence is because a pound and a pint each contain sixteen ounces or because a pint of water weighs a pound .... or both. I think it's both.

Two pints in a quart, four quarts in a gallon, 250,000 gallons. 8 x 250,000 = 2,000,000. Maybe Tim Giethner can work it out on his Turbo tax and get a different answer than 2 million pounds, but I'd say that 2 million is the correct answer.

20 posted on 09/02/2010 5:48:55 PM PDT by Mobties
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To: DemforBush

eco-friendly

Sue algore and the environazis.


21 posted on 09/02/2010 5:48:55 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Mobties
My guess is the woman in question did something to precipitate the pallet's fall on her.

Yeah, she was standing where it fell. Do you buy bottled water and have you seen the new 'eco-friendly' bottles? They are much thinner that the older bottles, but they still pack the same number of bottles (hence the same weight of water) into each pack and by default onto each pallet. Someone could have overstacked them, or they just collapsed from the weight. Honestly, what the heck could she have been doing to make it fall on her?

22 posted on 09/02/2010 5:49:51 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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Honestly, what the heck could she have been doing to make it fall on her?

Bumped it with a hand jack or a cart? Enough to crinkle a few on her side of it and down it comes. Clearly it was overly stacked for the packaging.

23 posted on 09/02/2010 5:56:49 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Mobties
“a pint's a pound the world around”.

Pretty much. I always just rough calculate it to 8lbs a gallon. Its a few ounces more than that depending on temperature so it really only matters if you're dealing with large volumes and where a structure needs to support it.

24 posted on 09/02/2010 6:00:58 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: DemforBush

eco-friendly

Sue algore and the environazis.


25 posted on 09/02/2010 6:02:16 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Malsua

“Clearly it was overly stacked for the packaging.”


If that’s so, it should be easy to duplicate in the parking lot outside the court room .... or by looking at the shipping records for these pallets to see how many hundreds or thousands of times such a “fall” occurred.

Frankly, I don’t see how anything is “clear” at this point except perhaps that the journalist got his/her story from the tort lawyer handling the woman’s, or rather her surviving spouse’s, lawsuit.


26 posted on 09/02/2010 6:08:10 PM PDT by Mobties
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Your answer is crazy. How does “Two pints in a quart, four quarts in a gallon” give 250,000 gallons??

You are multiplying when you should be dividing.

The pallet was 4100 pounds as they reported. A gallon of water weighs 8 pounds. So the pallet had about 500 gallons on it.


27 posted on 09/02/2010 6:09:29 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Sorry, I couldn’t get the article to download and was working off one of the posts that spoke of 250,000 units/pints.

If the weight was quoted as 4,100 pounds I’d say you’re right in assuming 500 gallons of water (4,000 pints) and another 100 pounds for the pallet and packaging.


28 posted on 09/02/2010 6:19:58 PM PDT by Mobties
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To: DemforBush
It would be interesting to try and recreate this, there are many things to consider along with the bottle. How was the load stacked, evenly or off to one side? Did something (like a forklift) damage one side of the bottom pallet, weakening one side causing it to topple. How many pallets high were the pallet stacked (typically designed for 3 high stacking in the warehouse safely). Rarely does a pallet collapse “quickly” due to too much weight, usually you see it coming.
In any case condolences to the family.
29 posted on 09/02/2010 7:24:56 PM PDT by Clarksville
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