Posted on 09/02/2010 5:29:54 PM PDT by Kaslin
Politics: California's Senate debate was between someone who knows how to pull a wagon and someone who wants everyone to ride. The choice is creating wealth and jobs or redistributing wealth while destroying jobs.
California hasn't elected a Republican senator since Pete Wilson in 1988, but if Wednesday's debate and recent polls are any indication, the political sea change of 2010 may be about to wash up on Golden State beaches.
The debate wasn't so much conservative vs. liberal as between freedom and dependency, with incumbent Sen. Barbara Boxer attacking former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina as serving the interests of "billionaires, millionaires and companies that outsource jobs," as if California's 12.3% unemployment rate is the fault of someone who created jobs in the private sector.
Fiorina responded to Boxer, who at last report had not taken a vow of poverty, by noting that with 28 years in the Senate, she's part of the problem, not the solution: "If you look at Sen. Boxer's long track record of 28 years in Washington, D.C., you will see this: She is for more taxes, she is for more spending, she is for more regulation and she is also for big government and elite, extreme environmental groups."
Boxer is the quintessential liberal Democrat who paints everything with a class-warfare brush. She fails to realize that no one has ever gotten a job from a poor person and that wealth can be created, not merely taken from those who work very hard and given to those who work not at all.
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Fiorina boxed Boxer’s ears!
Boxer’s and Pelosi’s names elicit profanity whenever they’re mentioned whether it be at social events, at the grocery store, at the mall, wherever. Feinstein is in the same league with these two.
No love around here for any of the three.
...or between brains and rocks.
Fiorina drew a lot of blood on the economy and jobs.
Wasn’t even close. Carly won the debate by a landslide.
In before the FioRino bashers who apparently would rather have Boxer remain in office.
Hate to sound like a broken record, but I won’t be convinced until after the votes are cast, counted and CERTIFIED. Until then, too much “strangeness” can occur...
Go Carly! I am worried though, in these close races across the country, the grave yard vote, union rigging and Acorn mischief will be rampant. The GOP will have to be extremely viligent to minimize these creeps actions.
Carly,RINO or not, Boxer has been destroying CA for as long as I have lived here... Beyond time to go.
“Carly,RINO or not, Boxer has been destroying CA for as long as I have lived here... Beyond time to go.”
I’d vote for a bag of dog crap over Boxer.
I doubt I will be happy with Fiorina, maybe I will be surprised, anything would be an improvement. But at this point it is ONLY about getting rid of Boxer at all costs. It’s critical for republicans to get control of the senate again and that is the larger national issue at stake that trumps whether she is a RINO or not.
I suppose there is no chance Queen Nancy can be unseated.?
Absolutely -— NONE!
I hope Fiorina wins, but no one on this board had better raise an eyebrow when Fiorina starts voting like Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins.
Yeah, of course Fiorina is miles away better than Boxer, and to see Boxer kicked to the curb would be a special delight, but I have no illusions that Fiorina will be a dedicated RINO that in all likelihood will servre to pull Obama’s chestnuts from the fire in the future — and perhaps on more than one occasion. Think John McCain in a skirt. Just so everyone is aware of this probability.
Even a RINO would be superior to a committed far left commie liberal like Boxer.
i have yet to see anyone here say they support Boxer.
please post such a preposterous claim if you have proof...I’d like to holler at them
No one in their right mind would actually say they support Boxer on this forum. But let’s be real. Carly gets regularly bashed as a Rino. One can only deduce that someone who seeks to diminish Fiorina must know they are helping ‘Madam Senator.’
Good for her. If she can stay on message, this will be her best weapon. Any Republican who doesn't bash Democrats on the economy and jobs is too stupid to understand the gift they have been handed.
We can’t call her Madame. How about we call her unemployed?
This has a nice ring to it.
...according to past history...independents break for the challenger when the incumbent has high negatives...
Only from the Speakership. I’LL TAKE IT!!!
But won’t it be sort of fun to watch Nancy skulking around the House without her gavel, and with everyone giving her the evil eye?
Well said!
But haven't you heard, she's earned it. ;-)
No one in northern California knew who Hershenson was. THAT was the biggest problem. At least Fiorina has garnered name recognition. I’m holding out hope that Carly will pull this off. God knows California is in dire straights.
You got that right. Hope it happens.
I will vote for Carly, but she is not among my favorite list of candidates in the US. She will do nothing to solve CA’s problem unless she votes against more Fed Stimulus for Govt employees. She is just one more vote in the Senate for a GOP Senate Majority leader..and that is about all.
DreamingWest; did you watch the Debate? If so, what’s your take? Sounds like Babs got her butt handed to her.
Recent California voter registration is closer to 3-2 in favor of the dems. Not great, but not as insurmountable as 2-1 would be.
Report Date : May 24, 2010
Dem - 44.5%
Rep - 30.8%
and still not want Boxer to win
this forum often falls into three camps:
cult of personality types who think no GOP candidate this side of Olympia Snowe should be criticized...Bush and Palin....Beck is the newest member of this club of shan't be criticized here...... often get this worship thingie here...I like Sarah too I just don't think she is above critique
then there is my camp who criticize whomever we like and don't mind saying inconvenient truths that defy the personality thing
then lastly there is your lament...those here who get so pissed if someone is not ideologically pure(is anyone really?) that they claim they will just not vote thereby voting for the Dem de facto
everyone has their place I guess...but usually everyone ponies up at election time
Juan was absolutely loathed here but in 11/08 nearly everyone here found Jesus and got to the booth knowing Bro was far worse
so I would not fret that Carly gets less enthusiasm than DeVore here....she will still get the support here at crunch time from 99%...beating Boxer with anyone not a Democrat is too sweet a siren call
I am praying the Republican party will really push their candidate...
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