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Schmidt: Gay Marriage Now a Conservative Cause [retread ZOT!]
Frum Forum ^ | 8/31/10

Posted on 09/03/2010 10:22:09 AM PDT by BitterKlingon

Former McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt tells Sam Stein of the Huffington Post why gay marriage is now a conservative cause:

"There is a strong conservative case to be made in favor of gay marriage," former McCain campaign manager and fellow same-sex marriage fundraiser Steve Schmidt told the Huffington Post on Tuesday. "Marriage is an institution that strengthens and stabilizes society. It is an institution that has the capacity to bring profound joy and happiness to people and it is a matter of equality and keeping faith of one of the charters of the nation, the right to live your life.

"More and more conservatives are saying that opposition to gay marriage would not be a litmus test for membership in the GOP," Schmidt added. "And more conservatives are making the case that no more do you want big government conservatives in the bedroom than big government liberals telling you how to live your life."

To be sure, the Mehlman fundraiser is not entirely a Republican-driven affair. Some of the big names on the ticket are Democrats, including former House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt and former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta.

But reading through the list of attendees, it's remarkable to see how many prominent conservatives are not just comfortable associating with the gay-rights cause but are eager to fundraise for it. Pair that with rumblings from elsewhere in the party (most notably from Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels) that conservatives should have a "truce" on social issues for the time being and the frictions within the GOP tent become even more apparent.

If anything, the hostility between the social conservative element of the party and those less adherent to that doctrine is already palpable. As one prominent Republican who supports gay rights put it:

"I think there is a growing mass of people in Republican politics who are fundamentally sick and tired about being lectured to about morality and how to live your life by a bunch of people who have been married three or four times and are more likely to be seen outside a brothel on a Thursday night than being at home with their kids... There is a fundamental indecency to the vitriol and the hatred directed against decent people because of their sexuality. People have reached a critical mass with this."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amoralhounddogs; conservatives; homosexualagenda; journolist; marriage; schmidt; steveschmidt; victorkilo; vikingkitties; zort; zortzot; zot; zuluoscartango
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To: Rutles4Ever
Prognosticators telling them that gay marriage is an inevitable reality

Based on trend lines and generational breakdown of poll results (obviously, younger voters are going to stay around longer than older ones, Chicago Democrats notwithstanding), they may be right....

21 posted on 09/03/2010 12:22:49 PM PDT by BitterKlingon
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To: napscoordinator

“I don’t understand why this is suddenly even coming up. We had ONE Republican come out of the closet this week”

Yes, there seems to be a full court press going on. They must think that they are on the brink of a victory.

I also think the Libertarian influence in the GOP and on these boards is a factor.


22 posted on 09/03/2010 12:22:57 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: BitterKlingon

The GOP doesn’t need to “purge” anyone. You know nothing about Newt’s life or what was going on in his marriage. Vitter either. The Left will always manufacture what they can’t prove and that will never change. Just make sure your house is in order and don’t worry about anyone else’s “morality issues”.


23 posted on 09/03/2010 12:23:00 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: napscoordinator

Your point is wrong. There is no equivalent between opposing divorce and opposing the radical homosexual agenda. To act like we have to do both equally or else we have no credibility is only a phony liberal talking point.

And now we are going to make a point about cheating? What do you suggest we do? Put tracking devices on our candidates? Get real.


24 posted on 09/03/2010 12:27:40 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: arthurus
What's a Democrat?

Michael Moore, Larry Flint, Gore Vidal, George Soros, David Brock, Barak Obama, Bernie Sanders and Sean Penn.

25 posted on 09/03/2010 12:32:13 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: BitterKlingon; paulycy; 50mm; Darksheare
Beware of noobs posting stuff from the 'Frum Forum'?!

Frum, Schmidt, McCain, (throw in Romney too) ... very appropriate for them to talk to the HuffPo.

Bitter Klingon (so you love to be bitter and cling to your guns and religion huh?), help us understand your point in posting this article on FR as well as your encouragement to "purge" people. That sounds more socialistic/fascist than conservative.

26 posted on 09/03/2010 12:59:52 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free ...)
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To: BitterKlingon

Bullschtize!!!


27 posted on 09/03/2010 1:23:20 PM PDT by Waco (From Seward to Sarah)
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To: Blue Turtle
No wonder why McCain lost and Sarah Palin did not agree with the campaign on most issues...

Name three issues on which she departed from the McCain line.

Should be easy, if she disagreed on "most," as you claim.

28 posted on 09/03/2010 1:24:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Thirteenth Amendment outlawed slavery. The Sixteenth Amendment brought it back.)
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To: Blue Turtle

Personally, I can’t think of even one, and I stay pretty well informed.


29 posted on 09/03/2010 1:25:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Thirteenth Amendment outlawed slavery. The Sixteenth Amendment brought it back.)
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To: BitterKlingon

Welcome back, Zort.


30 posted on 09/03/2010 1:27:24 PM PDT by 50mm (Go whine someplace else.)
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To: BitterKlingon

Gay “marriage” is about all it’ll take to shove this country down the poop hole.


31 posted on 09/03/2010 1:30:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: BitterKlingon

Gay “marriage” is about all it’ll take to shove this country down the poop hole.


32 posted on 09/03/2010 1:30:43 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: BitterKlingon

There is a strong conservative case for going along with what 5000+ years of Judeo-Christian religion and tradition have to say about marriage. I sure as heck don’t care what some loony atheist gay has to say about it. Some gay theorist who has nothing to base his gay theories of marriage on?

Gay marriage is 80% for financial reasons...much of it so one gay can get on the others health plan and other benefits. Not that I approve of the legal gay domestic partnership arrangements either which help gays glom onto health plan coverage etc..... But they can have that, not marriage


33 posted on 09/03/2010 1:32:48 PM PDT by dennisw (=He who will not economize will have to agonize- Confucious)
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To: BitterKlingon
FYI Noob: I know its important for you to get some Republican in-fighting going, but bloggers aren't "breaking news".

You're welcome.

34 posted on 09/03/2010 1:34:02 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Methinks this noob is a ‘cross-dresser’.


35 posted on 09/03/2010 1:57:06 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free ...)
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To: BitterKlingon

The Day the Republican Party makes support for Same-Sex Marriage part of their platform will be the LAST time I will have EVER voted for a Republican...PERIOD!


36 posted on 09/03/2010 1:59:01 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: BitterKlingon

I don’t make mortal sins a conservative cause.


37 posted on 09/03/2010 2:04:29 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: 50mm
IBTRZ. In Before The Retread Zo(r)t!


Do you smell ozone?


38 posted on 09/03/2010 2:24:57 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free ...)
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To: BitterKlingon

Marriage is about Children, we know this from historical, and practical experimentation.

There is and can be no conservative case for the abomination of “Gay marriage”. marriage is not just about love its mostly about children. Just as 2 people of the same sex are not capable of having children with each-other naturally they also cannot get married.

If Marriage we’re about love then there would never have been any arranged marriages.

If Marriage we’re about love they would not be exclusively between just 2 people. After all you love a great many people, why be restricted to just marrying one of em?

In-order to justify “gay marriage” you have to redefine marriage upon a foundation which is untenable. This is akin to driving the final nail into the coffin of marriage.


39 posted on 09/03/2010 2:49:24 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Servant of the Cross
This one deserves the most humiliating 'Bikini Zot'

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40 posted on 09/03/2010 2:55:01 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Live and Let Live; is not working...)
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