Posted on 09/04/2010 4:22:38 AM PDT by cweese
SAN JUAN When Ruth Garcia's twins are born in two months, they'll have all the rights of U.S. citizens. They and their six brothers and sisters will be able to vote, apply for federal student loans and even run for president.
Garcia is an illegal immigrant who crossed into the country about 14 years ago, before her children were born, and the citizenship granted to her children and millions others like them is at the center of a divisive national debate.
Republicans are pushing for congressional hearings to consider changing the nation's 14th Amendment to deny such children the automatic citizenship the Constitution guarantees. They say women like Garcia are taking advantage of the constitutional amendment and paint a picture of pregnant women rushing across the border to give birth.
Though a recent Pew Hispanic Center study shows that 8 percent of the 4.3 million babies born in the U.S. in 2008 had at least one illegal parent, a closer examination shows that most children of illegal immigrants are born to parents like Garcia who have made the U.S. their home for years.
Out of 340,000 babies born to illegal immigrants in the United States in 2008, 85 percent of the parents had been in the country for more than a year, and more than half for at least five years, Jeffrey Passel, a senior demographer for Pew, told The Associated Press.
And immigration experts say it's extraordinarily rare for immigrants to come to the U.S. just so they can have babies and get citizenship. In most cases, they come for economic reasons and better hospitals, and end up staying and raising families.
(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...
More BS from the open borders crowd.
Bob Christie and Paul J. Weber (ASSOCIATED PRESS) must really be stupid, or at least irony-resistant, to not catch that. Not to mention their editor.
The people come in to the country illegally and they expect them to be honest about this question?
When folks say 'anchor babies' they don't necessarily children born to women who have crossed the border JUST because they're about to give birth. They mean children born, at any time, to illegal immigrants, and who are granted citizenship simply because of the LOCATION of their birth, regardless of the citizenship status of their parents. How many other countries in the world give citizenship to newborns, simply because they happen to be born within that country's borders?
“Immigrants rarely give birth just after arriving in U.S., experts say”
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It’s also known that: “Immigrants rarely fly commercial jets into office towers just after arriving in U.S.”
Even if this is true, I don’t care how long an illegal alien has lived here, they should be deported when found and banned from ever returning and their children should not be given citizenship. Since when can the child of illegal aliens run for president!?
None come to mind.
They're accomplished liars.
They cross the border SPECIFICALLY to drop an anchor baby. Look at the numbers from the hospitals in Texas, and you will see how many are coming for anchoring their extended families just by showing up.
In Texas, between 60,000 to 65,000 babies achieve U.S. citizenship annually by being born in the state’s hospitals, according to a tally released by the state’s Health and Human Services Commission. Last year, such births represented almost 16 percent of the total births statewide.
Between 2001 and 2009, births to illegal immigrant women totaled 542,152 in Texas alone
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2566697/posts
One half of one percent is “rare”.
15% is pretty decent.
Heck, its a capital gains tax rate.
Besides, who CARES? NONE of them should be here at all.
That’s an interesting link. Lots of 3rd world countries in that mix.
Precisely. I know of two instances alone where “professional” level workers from Mexico (a doctor and a lawyer) came to the United States in their 8th month of pregnancy, stayed and delivered their babies here (L.A.) and left back to Mexico. They claimed it was because they could afford it and the facilities were better here (maybe) but the real reason, let’s face it, was their kid was now a U.S. citizen. And if the kids go to the U.S., become educated, enter the work force and do well, guess who gets to ride in and hang around here? Oh, and don’t forget, I believe there are Social Security benefits for relatives under certain situations, too. Everybody has figured out how to Eff the U.S. taxpayer and get away with it. Everybody, but us. But that’s going to change, right?
Ever notice how the word “just” is used?
I really dislike that word.
I watched an episode of Border Wars last night.
The agents rounded up about 15 illegals near the Rio Grande.
About half were from Brazil, one from Sri Lanka via Brazil.
He said he spent 2 months and $10k to get to the U.S.
My question,....
Him and many of these illegals pay thousands of dollars to coyotes .
Why not use the money to live and/or make a better life in he native country?
I’ll bet $10k goes a long way in Sri Lanka.
How many other countries in the world give citizenship to newborns, simply because they happen to be born within that country’s borders?
That is why we are United States of America. We don’t do what other countries do. Although I disagree with our 14th Amendment, it does put us in a pickle when we discuss wanting our politicians to follow the consistution ot the letter.
Who are these “experts”?
About half were from Brazil.
If they were Brazilian models, I say we keep them.
That is 164 babies a day. That seems awful high for one state. Although I did take the lower number of 60,000, it still seems like it would be impossible to have that many babies born in one day in a state.
They weren’t.
The guy from Sri Lanka had a unibrow, with a widow’s peak!
He could have used a Brazilian wax on his face.
No, but their presence alone sure screws up the neighborhood. I don’t care why they’re here. They need to be gone.
Correct. Statistics can be manipulated, and what this writer says is probably technically true. However, women have been crossing the border to deliver anchor babies for a very long time, and everybody in the border states knows it. Maybe that’s OK, but “experts” need to drop the propaganda, stop misleading Americans, and start telling the truth.
There is no difference between being a pregnant illegal giving birth after 10 minutes and one giving birth after 10 years. Longevity of the crime, in my mind, is an even worse crime. Arrest them all, deport them all.
Texas is a big state. 164 births vs state population is not high.
In 2007, the statistic for South Carolina was 172 live births per day.
The 2008 stats for Texas are over 405,000 births (for the year). So doing the math that’s over 1,000 per day. Not surprising 164 of those are the babies of illegals.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763849.html
Right. Sometimes it takes a few weeks. It’s best not to arrive right on your due date.
Who you going to believe?
A liberal journalist?
Or your lying eyes?
“experts say.” We all know what that means.
Read this if you are really interested in the issue:Birthright Citizenship in the United States: A Global Comparison Only 30 of the worlds 194 countries grant automatic citizenship to children born to illegal aliens. Of advanced economies, Canada and the United States are the only countries that grant automatic citizenship to children born to illegal aliens.
That is why we are United States of America. We dont do what other countries do. Although I disagree with our 14th Amendment, it does put us in a pickle when we discuss wanting our politicians to follow the consistution ot the letter.
We can follow the Constitution and not grant birthright citizenship. 14th Amendment history seems to indicate that the Citizenship Clause was never intended to benefit illegal aliens nor legal foreign visitors temporarily present in the United States.
The U.S. Supreme Court has held that the U.S.-born children of permanent resident aliens are covered by the Citizenship Clause, but the Court has never decided whether the same rule applies to the children of aliens whose presence in the United States is temporary or illegal.
Some eminent scholars and jurists have concluded that it is within the power of Congress to define the scope of the Citizenship Clause through legislation and that birthright citizenship for the children of temporary visitors and illegal aliens could likely be abolished by statute without amending the Constitution.
Between 300,000 and 400,000 children are born to illegal immigrants in the United States every year. Put another way, as many as one out of 10 births in the United States is to an illegal immigrant mother.2 All of these children are considered by the executive branch of the U.S. government to be U.S. citizens who enjoy the same rights and are entitled to the same benefits as the children of U.S. citizens.
The population of U.S.-born children with illegal alien parents has expanded rapidly in recent years from 2.3 million in 2003 to 4 million in 2008; since these figures do not include children who are 18 years of age or older nor those who are married, the actual figure is somewhat larger.
Thank you. You know I definitely wanted to see what Mexico does and I guess they allow for babies on their soil to be Mexican citizens right away. You know I would be screaming from the rooftops about illegal aliens coming from Mexico by asking the President of Mexico what he would do if he found Americans coming into Mexico illegally? That would put an end to all this illegal alien business with that question.
Is it any wonder that 75% of the projected 130 million increase in our population over the next 40 years will come from immigration. 53% of immigrant headed households are on welfare.
34 percent of immigrants lack health insurance, compared to 13 percent of natives. Immigrants and their U.S.-born children account for 71 percent of the increase in the uninsured since 1989.
The poverty rate for immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) is 17 percent, nearly 50 percent higher than the rate for natives and their children.
Actually, 15% of illegals crossing into the US just to give birth sounds like a fairly high number, to me.
And for the 85% that stayed here for a while before having their anchor babies—why the heck were they allowed to stay for so long?
Paul J. Weber Writer & Reporter
If so, that site explains a lot.
and even run for president.
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Simply being born here does not make a person a nature born citizen and eligible to be president.
and even run for president.
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Simply being born here does not make a person a natural born citizen and eligible to be president.
However, IIRC, Parkland Hospital in Dallas has consistently reported illegal deliveries in the amount of around 15,000 PER YEAR for the last several years....and that' just ONE Texas hospital, and other border states would report similar numbers, I'm sure.
However, IIRC, Parkland Hospital in Dallas has consistently reported illegal deliveries in the amount of around 15,000 PER YEAR for the last several years....and that' just ONE Texas hospital, and other border states would report similar numbers, I'm sure.
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