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Immigrants rarely give birth just after arriving in U.S., experts say
The Austin-Mexican Statesman ^ | September 3, 2010 | Bob Christie and Paul J. Weber

Posted on 09/04/2010 4:22:38 AM PDT by cweese

SAN JUAN — When Ruth Garcia's twins are born in two months, they'll have all the rights of U.S. citizens. They and their six brothers and sisters will be able to vote, apply for federal student loans and even run for president.

Garcia is an illegal immigrant who crossed into the country about 14 years ago, before her children were born, and the citizenship granted to her children and millions others like them is at the center of a divisive national debate.

Republicans are pushing for congressional hearings to consider changing the nation's 14th Amendment to deny such children the automatic citizenship the Constitution guarantees. They say women like Garcia are taking advantage of the constitutional amendment and paint a picture of pregnant women rushing across the border to give birth.

Though a recent Pew Hispanic Center study shows that 8 percent of the 4.3 million babies born in the U.S. in 2008 had at least one illegal parent, a closer examination shows that most children of illegal immigrants are born to parents like Garcia who have made the U.S. their home for years.

Out of 340,000 babies born to illegal immigrants in the United States in 2008, 85 percent of the parents had been in the country for more than a year, and more than half for at least five years, Jeffrey Passel, a senior demographer for Pew, told The Associated Press.

And immigration experts say it's extraordinarily rare for immigrants to come to the U.S. just so they can have babies and get citizenship. In most cases, they come for economic reasons and better hospitals, and end up staying and raising families.

(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birth; illegals; immigrants
"And immigration experts say it's extraordinarily rare for immigrants to come to the U.S. just so they can have babies and get citizenship."

More BS from the open borders crowd.

1 posted on 09/04/2010 4:22:41 AM PDT by cweese
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To: cweese
Interesting; the story starts out with an illegal alien woman who has delivered 6 ANCHOR BABIES already, and this is to make a point that few illegal aliens actually have children in the US. OctoMom must be the exception that proves the rule.

Bob Christie and Paul J. Weber (ASSOCIATED PRESS) must really be stupid, or at least irony-resistant, to not catch that. Not to mention their editor.

2 posted on 09/04/2010 4:28:33 AM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: cweese
"Out of 340,000 babies born to illegal immigrants in the United States in 2008, 85 percent of the parents had been in the country for more than a year, and more than half for at least five years, Jeffrey Passel, a senior demographer for Pew, told The Associated Press."

The people come in to the country illegally and they expect them to be honest about this question?

3 posted on 09/04/2010 4:29:15 AM PDT by charles1252
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To: cweese
And immigration experts say it's extraordinarily rare for immigrants to come to the U.S. just so they can have babies and get citizenship. In most cases, they come for economic reasons and better hospitals, and end up staying and raising families.

When folks say 'anchor babies' they don't necessarily children born to women who have crossed the border JUST because they're about to give birth. They mean children born, at any time, to illegal immigrants, and who are granted citizenship simply because of the LOCATION of their birth, regardless of the citizenship status of their parents. How many other countries in the world give citizenship to newborns, simply because they happen to be born within that country's borders?

4 posted on 09/04/2010 4:32:40 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: cweese

“Immigrants rarely give birth just after arriving in U.S., experts say”

— — —

It’s also known that: “Immigrants rarely fly commercial jets into office towers just after arriving in U.S.”


5 posted on 09/04/2010 4:38:53 AM PDT by HighWheeler
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To: cweese

Even if this is true, I don’t care how long an illegal alien has lived here, they should be deported when found and banned from ever returning and their children should not be given citizenship. Since when can the child of illegal aliens run for president!?


6 posted on 09/04/2010 4:39:49 AM PDT by skookum55 ("Why is the market going down? Because communism isn't bullish." Unknown trader, CNBC, July 2010.)
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To: SuziQ
"How many other countries in the world give citizenship to newborns, simply because they happen to be born within that country's borders? "

None come to mind.

7 posted on 09/04/2010 4:40:24 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Bernard
"Bob Christie and Paul J. Weber (ASSOCIATED PRESS) must really be stupid, or at least irony-resistant, to not catch that"

They're accomplished liars.

8 posted on 09/04/2010 4:43:49 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: cweese
Bullshit.

They cross the border SPECIFICALLY to drop an anchor baby. Look at the numbers from the hospitals in Texas, and you will see how many are coming for anchoring their extended families just by showing up.

9 posted on 09/04/2010 4:44:31 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: cweese

In Texas, between 60,000 to 65,000 babies achieve U.S. citizenship annually by being born in the state’s hospitals, according to a tally released by the state’s Health and Human Services Commission. Last year, such births represented almost 16 percent of the total births statewide.

Between 2001 and 2009, births to illegal immigrant women totaled 542,152 in Texas alone

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2566697/posts


10 posted on 09/04/2010 4:44:57 AM PDT by maine yankee
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To: cweese

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli


11 posted on 09/04/2010 4:46:13 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: cweese

One half of one percent is “rare”.

15% is pretty decent.

Heck, its a capital gains tax rate.

Besides, who CARES? NONE of them should be here at all.


12 posted on 09/04/2010 4:47:18 AM PDT by Adder (Note to self: 11-2-10 Take out the Trash!!!)
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To: James C. Bennett

That’s an interesting link. Lots of 3rd world countries in that mix.


13 posted on 09/04/2010 4:51:43 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: cweese

Precisely. I know of two instances alone where “professional” level workers from Mexico (a doctor and a lawyer) came to the United States in their 8th month of pregnancy, stayed and delivered their babies here (L.A.) and left back to Mexico. They claimed it was because they could afford it and the facilities were better here (maybe) but the real reason, let’s face it, was their kid was now a U.S. citizen. And if the kids go to the U.S., become educated, enter the work force and do well, guess who gets to ride in and hang around here? Oh, and don’t forget, I believe there are Social Security benefits for relatives under certain situations, too. Everybody has figured out how to Eff the U.S. taxpayer and get away with it. Everybody, but us. But that’s going to change, right?


14 posted on 09/04/2010 4:52:54 AM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: traditional1

Ever notice how the word “just” is used?

I really dislike that word.


15 posted on 09/04/2010 5:03:49 AM PDT by Loud Mime (It's the CONSTITUTION! www.initialpoints.net)
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To: cweese

I watched an episode of Border Wars last night.

The agents rounded up about 15 illegals near the Rio Grande.

About half were from Brazil, one from Sri Lanka via Brazil.

He said he spent 2 months and $10k to get to the U.S.

My question,....

Him and many of these illegals pay thousands of dollars to coyotes .

Why not use the money to live and/or make a better life in he native country?

I’ll bet $10k goes a long way in Sri Lanka.


16 posted on 09/04/2010 5:07:30 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: SuziQ

How many other countries in the world give citizenship to newborns, simply because they happen to be born within that country’s borders?

That is why we are United States of America. We don’t do what other countries do. Although I disagree with our 14th Amendment, it does put us in a pickle when we discuss wanting our politicians to follow the consistution ot the letter.


17 posted on 09/04/2010 5:07:59 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Willie Green; Liz; AuntB

Who are these “experts”?


18 posted on 09/04/2010 5:08:48 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: Vinnie

About half were from Brazil.

If they were Brazilian models, I say we keep them.


19 posted on 09/04/2010 5:09:10 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: maine yankee

That is 164 babies a day. That seems awful high for one state. Although I did take the lower number of 60,000, it still seems like it would be impossible to have that many babies born in one day in a state.


20 posted on 09/04/2010 5:11:19 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

They weren’t.
The guy from Sri Lanka had a unibrow, with a widow’s peak!

He could have used a Brazilian wax on his face.


21 posted on 09/04/2010 5:20:52 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: cweese

No, but their presence alone sure screws up the neighborhood. I don’t care why they’re here. They need to be gone.


22 posted on 09/04/2010 5:24:58 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: HighWheeler

Correct. Statistics can be manipulated, and what this writer says is probably technically true. However, women have been crossing the border to deliver anchor babies for a very long time, and everybody in the border states knows it. Maybe that’s OK, but “experts” need to drop the propaganda, stop misleading Americans, and start telling the truth.


23 posted on 09/04/2010 5:28:14 AM PDT by ElayneJ (ui)
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To: cweese

There is no difference between being a pregnant illegal giving birth after 10 minutes and one giving birth after 10 years. Longevity of the crime, in my mind, is an even worse crime. Arrest them all, deport them all.


24 posted on 09/04/2010 5:28:36 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: napscoordinator

Texas is a big state. 164 births vs state population is not high.
In 2007, the statistic for South Carolina was 172 live births per day.


25 posted on 09/04/2010 5:33:41 AM PDT by visualops (Proud Air Force Mom)
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To: napscoordinator

The 2008 stats for Texas are over 405,000 births (for the year). So doing the math that’s over 1,000 per day. Not surprising 164 of those are the babies of illegals.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763849.html


26 posted on 09/04/2010 5:39:02 AM PDT by visualops (Proud Air Force Mom)
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To: cweese

Right. Sometimes it takes a few weeks. It’s best not to arrive right on your due date.


27 posted on 09/04/2010 5:43:35 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: cweese

Who you going to believe?

A liberal journalist?

Or your lying eyes?


28 posted on 09/04/2010 5:44:18 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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To: cweese

“experts say.” We all know what that means.


29 posted on 09/04/2010 5:49:51 AM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve qui peut)
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To: napscoordinator; SuziQ
How many other countries in the world give citizenship to newborns, simply because they happen to be born within that country’s borders?

Read this if you are really interested in the issue:Birthright Citizenship in the United States: A Global Comparison Only 30 of the world’s 194 countries grant automatic citizenship to children born to illegal aliens. Of advanced economies, Canada and the United States are the only countries that grant automatic citizenship to children born to illegal aliens.

That is why we are United States of America. We don’t do what other countries do. Although I disagree with our 14th Amendment, it does put us in a pickle when we discuss wanting our politicians to follow the consistution ot the letter.

We can follow the Constitution and not grant birthright citizenship. 14th Amendment history seems to indicate that the Citizenship Clause was never intended to benefit illegal aliens nor legal foreign visitors temporarily present in the United States.

The U.S. Supreme Court has held that the U.S.-born children of permanent resident aliens are covered by the Citizenship Clause, but the Court has never decided whether the same rule applies to the children of aliens whose presence in the United States is temporary or illegal.

Some eminent scholars and jurists have concluded that it is within the power of Congress to define the scope of the Citizenship Clause through legislation and that birthright citizenship for the children of temporary visitors and illegal aliens could likely be abolished by statute without amending the Constitution.

Between 300,000 and 400,000 children are born to illegal immigrants in the United States every year. Put another way, as many as one out of 10 births in the United States is to an illegal immigrant mother.2 All of these children are considered by the executive branch of the U.S. government to be U.S. citizens who enjoy the same rights and are entitled to the same benefits as the children of U.S. citizens.

The population of U.S.-born children with illegal alien parents has expanded rapidly in recent years from 2.3 million in 2003 to 4 million in 2008; since these figures do not include children who are 18 years of age or older nor those who are married, the actual figure is somewhat larger.

30 posted on 09/04/2010 6:03:05 AM PDT by kabar
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To: cweese
Arizona
31 posted on 09/04/2010 6:04:30 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: napscoordinator; SuziQ

32 posted on 09/04/2010 6:07:27 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Thank you. You know I definitely wanted to see what Mexico does and I guess they allow for babies on their soil to be Mexican citizens right away. You know I would be screaming from the rooftops about illegal aliens coming from Mexico by asking the President of Mexico what he would do if he found Americans coming into Mexico illegally? That would put an end to all this illegal alien business with that question.


33 posted on 09/04/2010 6:10:23 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
Birthright citizenship is insanity for any developed country. Those 300,000 to 400,000 "anchor babies" are entitled to all of the benefits of US citizenship including Medicaid, food stamps, etc. And add them to the 1.2 million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who enter this country each year plus the 500,000 who enter illegally each year.

Is it any wonder that 75% of the projected 130 million increase in our population over the next 40 years will come from immigration. 53% of immigrant headed households are on welfare.

34 percent of immigrants lack health insurance, compared to 13 percent of natives. Immigrants and their U.S.-born children account for 71 percent of the increase in the uninsured since 1989.

The poverty rate for immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) is 17 percent, nearly 50 percent higher than the rate for natives and their children.

34 posted on 09/04/2010 6:17:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: cweese

Actually, 15% of illegals crossing into the US just to give birth sounds like a fairly high number, to me.

And for the 85% that stayed here for a while before having their anchor babies—why the heck were they allowed to stay for so long?


35 posted on 09/04/2010 6:28:16 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: cweese
I wonder if this is the same Paul J. Weber...

Paul J. Weber Writer & Reporter

If so, that site explains a lot.

36 posted on 09/04/2010 6:32:10 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: cweese

and even run for president.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Simply being born here does not make a person a nature born citizen and eligible to be president.


37 posted on 09/04/2010 7:19:40 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: cweese

and even run for president.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Simply being born here does not make a person a natural born citizen and eligible to be president.


38 posted on 09/04/2010 7:19:55 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Loud Mime
The article is claiming (consistent with its agenda) that the births are mostly after a year or more of illegal squatting in the USA.

However, IIRC, Parkland Hospital in Dallas has consistently reported illegal deliveries in the amount of around 15,000 PER YEAR for the last several years....and that' just ONE Texas hospital, and other border states would report similar numbers, I'm sure.

39 posted on 09/04/2010 10:00:01 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Loud Mime
The article is claiming (consistent with its agenda) that the births are mostly after a year or more of illegal squatting in the USA.

However, IIRC, Parkland Hospital in Dallas has consistently reported illegal deliveries in the amount of around 15,000 PER YEAR for the last several years....and that' just ONE Texas hospital, and other border states would report similar numbers, I'm sure.

40 posted on 09/04/2010 10:02:21 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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