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New military rifle lighter, more powerful
NBC13 ^ | 09-29-2010 | Staff

Posted on 09/04/2010 8:10:09 AM PDT by em2vn

It was designed with input by U.S. Special Operations Command warriors for special ops missions to be lighter, more maneuverable and longer lasting.

Earlier this month, the MK-17 – dubbed the SCAR by its Belgian manufacturer FNH – went into "full rate production" making it the first new assault carbine to be purchased by the U.S. military since the M-16 and M-4 rifles went online four decades ago. The rifle is expected to be particularly valuable in situations like those faced by soldiers fighting in Afghanistan, where the weapon's additional range will provide a significant upgrade.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 556762mk17; assaultrifle; banglist; kalashnikov; sturmgewehr
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To: rrebo

Got to watch shooting a .308 commercial round in a rifle made for the NATO round. The commercial .308 has more pressure than the NATO round.


21 posted on 09/04/2010 8:37:18 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: em2vn

***dubbed the SCAR by its Belgian manufacturer FNH***

And the cvilian version will be dubbed the SCARY! by the US news media and Brady Bunch.

I WANT ONE!


22 posted on 09/04/2010 8:37:48 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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To: tlb
If all you wanted was a very good 30 cal weapon that would be great. Looks like they bought this because of the interchangeability between grenade launcher and 223 cal as well.

The M14 was an outstanding battle weapon and is being used in the desert at this time by special ops type outfits.

When it comes to gov’t contracts they always seem to make a problem/solution more complicated and expensive than it needs to be...

23 posted on 09/04/2010 8:38:31 AM PDT by Max_850
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To: em2vn
I just hope, for our troop's sake, it has some basic features:

It's reliable
It's accurate
It has hitting power

And it was chosen for those reasons, not some pantywaist NATO political reasons

24 posted on 09/04/2010 8:40:30 AM PDT by llevrok (Hug a logger. You will never go back to trees.)
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To: stumpjumper

I just finished reading American Rifle and I am puzzled. Why is it that with the history of rifle development in the US we cannot today provide a new quality rifle / carbine for our troops and need to go to Belgium or Germany?


25 posted on 09/04/2010 8:41:11 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Max_850
The M14 was an outstanding battle weapon and is being used in the desert at this time by special ops type outfits.

M-14 was my weapon in the Marine Corps. Qualified Expert with it ... great rifle.

26 posted on 09/04/2010 8:44:20 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: em2vn

First question, is there a civilian version and when will it be available? :)


27 posted on 09/04/2010 8:46:39 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: em2vn

When my son was at the MCRD, he wrote me that he missed his Mauser (chambered 7.62mm) and said the M4 felt like a tinker toy. The 5.56mm is proving less effective in the open country of Afghanistan than it did in the jungle in SE Asia. I carried an M14 and my dad had a BAR in the South Pacific; both full auto capable and superior to the M4-IMO.


28 posted on 09/04/2010 8:46:40 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Joe Boucher

That Dragonov will be very effective in CQC. lol


29 posted on 09/04/2010 8:48:29 AM PDT by verity
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To: Joe Boucher

That Dragonov will be very effective in CQC. lol


30 posted on 09/04/2010 8:48:36 AM PDT by verity
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To: Joe Boucher

That Dragonov will be very effective in CQC. lol


31 posted on 09/04/2010 8:48:39 AM PDT by verity
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To: Vaquero; em2vn

Actually there are clips for the m-14, M-16 and variants. They are used to load the magazines, and top load the M-14.

This reminds me, I need to get some more M1 Garand clips and some clips for the m-14. I modify the m-14 clips to work in my 1903 springfield and they are a lot cheaper than real 1903 clips.


32 posted on 09/04/2010 8:49:08 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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To: tlb
it's prolly much cheaper to make new SCARS than shorty M14's, but that's just a guess...
33 posted on 09/04/2010 8:54:38 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Perdogg
7.62mm X 51mm (NATO)

Unfortunately, that short barrel is going to seriously rob the cartridge of its power. You can only burn powder so fast, alot of the burn is going to happen as flash beyond the muzzle.

This is a machine pistol with a rifle cartridge.

34 posted on 09/04/2010 8:55:12 AM PDT by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
no, because it doesn't sh!t where it eats...
35 posted on 09/04/2010 8:56:49 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: verity

My kid just went to Fayetville N.C. to learn from some guys teaching sniper training at Fort. Bragg.
He can hit a quarter consistantly at 500 yards at this point with the Dragonov.
Course he took a year working it to get it this good.
You should see it and his Saiga semi auto 12 ga.
Did you know you can purchase ammo on the net from the former soviet block and have it shipped directly to your home viaU.P.S.?
We b ready.
And I’m not gonna let on just what I may have.


36 posted on 09/04/2010 8:57:52 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ")
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To: LSUfan
Way cool vid, thanks!

If ever the need arises, the boy and I have the same opinion...."pass me that Saiga 308, please!"

It looks mean and it acts mean, especially with a 20 / 25 rnd magazine.

I may have to get another one.

37 posted on 09/04/2010 8:58:41 AM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: em2vn

There was a time we manufactured all of our own weapons and supplied half the world to boot.

Now we buy battle rifles from Europe and our so-called President is blocking the re-importation of 850,000 Korea War era Garands and Carbines.


38 posted on 09/04/2010 9:06:22 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take any more beatings.)
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To: SampleMan

One nice feature of the SCAR is the ability to quickly change barrels. The SCAR heavy has 13”, 16”, and 20” lengths available, depending on mission requirements.


39 posted on 09/04/2010 9:08:48 AM PDT by ReeseBN38416
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To: tlb
Wouldn’t a cut back M14 but with a new lighter stock served as well.

The M-14 is already in the field. Several in each platoon. If we have enough remaining in inventory, i could see the US issuing it to all troops in Afghanistan. It isn't really required in the conditions that were present in Iraq.

They've made it pretty damned sexy compared to the way it looked in the early 60's.

SOCOM used a version called the M-25

40 posted on 09/04/2010 9:08:51 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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