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President Obama is unlikely to face a Democratic foe in 2012 primary
nydailynews.com/news/politic ^ | Sunday, September 5th 2010, 4:00 AM | Kenneth R. Bazinet

Posted on 09/05/2010 9:39:09 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

WASHINGTON - The Democratic left still smarts over President Obama's failure to deliver on some of its key issues, but has made no serious move to challenge him in 2012.

Even the loudest critics among them think putting up a primary candidate would just split the party and strengthen the Republican who runs against him or her.

"There is beginning to be some chatter about running a candidate from the left, but nobody wants to think that way," said Peter Daou, a liberal blogger and ex-digital media adviser to Hillary Clinton's campaign.

The left's grievance list is long. They believe Obama is infatuated with centrist, independent voters at the expense of the liberal agenda. Many want U.S. forces out of Afghanistan.

Still, there's no groundswell for a Howard Dean-like Democrat to rise up and challenge Obama.

"I certainly wouldn't advocate that. I'd rather the White House right this ship," Daou said.

UCLA pollster Lynn Vavreck doubts the left will rebel because ultimately liberals "want to win elections," while dissident GOP Tea Party activists "care more about making a point."

Liberals still fume over what they consider a lame attempt by Obama to win approval of a government health care plan known as the public option.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2012; bloodinthewater; challenger; delusional; democratic; hallucinating; hillarydorsalfin; lol; obama
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1 posted on 09/05/2010 9:39:11 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

BS. Day after election Hillary will resign and begin her 2012 campaign.


2 posted on 09/05/2010 9:40:31 AM PDT by library user
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

He will not run in 2012, he cannot produce a BC.

Many Secretaries of State will demand one this time.


3 posted on 09/05/2010 9:40:50 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil

no country wants him


4 posted on 09/05/2010 9:42:26 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
"The left's grievance list is long. They believe Obama is infatuated with centrist, independent voters at the expense of the liberal agenda"


5 posted on 09/05/2010 9:42:29 AM PDT by DemforBush (You might think that, *I* could not possibly comment.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Because the Democrats are stuck in an unbreakable dilemma. Ether support 0 or lose the racial minority support that is the only thing that keeps them from being a minor party. If Democrats lose the bulk of the black vote they may as well not even run a candidate in 2012
6 posted on 09/05/2010 9:43:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I keep hearing that the left is not happy with him because he is not left enough. Hard to believe.


7 posted on 09/05/2010 9:44:42 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: MNJohnnie

B I N G O

This is a ploy to get them falsely united somehow for November.


8 posted on 09/05/2010 9:44:52 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Obama has been the most left leaning President in my lifetime (Trillion dollar stimulous, Obamacare, apologizing for America at every foreign stop, suing Arizona for a reasonable immigration law, wealth redistribution, Reverend Wright, etc). If the left can’t stomach this guy, who would they be happy with?

To me, the Dems need to re-take Econ 101 to learn how capitalism works, study up on how cruel dictatorships are (and how America mostly tries to overthrow these tyrannies because we’re decent people at heart), and finally, how to balance a check book.


9 posted on 09/05/2010 9:46:26 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Lets us all encourage Hillary to enter the race. We all know that she wants to be first woman POTUS....

...so we must do all we can do to get her into a nasty battle with pres Zer0......fun.... fun....

10 posted on 09/05/2010 9:47:42 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: Ditter

I know.....right.That is a frightening thought that the BCC and Hollywood is more communistic radical left than Obama.

But then again he is being a war POTUS this is what they hate.
They thought he would stop all American wars and defend gay people and muslims and open a gay cathedral and mosque for all.

Wait.... all’s they are waiting for is the gay cathedral.. to make Americans that are not gay, muslim,atheist or black the minority...


11 posted on 09/05/2010 9:48:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Way early to be saying that. They would have said the same thing about LBJ in 1966 too, but history begged to differ.
12 posted on 09/05/2010 9:48:47 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
President Obama is unlikely to face a Democratic foe in 2012 primary
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Polls show that nearly 60% of the population have serious questions concerning Obama’s natural born status. Does Bazinet seriously think that Obama can get past that an on the ballot in “57” states?

13 posted on 09/05/2010 9:49:31 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

This is because he doesn’t plan to run for President again. He has set his sights on Emperor of the Universe.


14 posted on 09/05/2010 9:50:36 AM PDT by mort56
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To: Ditter
The left would like him to dissolve congress, imprison dissenters and rule by decree, the way their heroes have in the past.
15 posted on 09/05/2010 9:50:42 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

They lie so much; who knows; except it’s probably his evil twin sister, Hillary.


16 posted on 09/05/2010 9:50:44 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I would say this depends on how things look going into 2011.

If things have not approved appreciably and the dem party is in complete disarray and dysfunction which is certainly possible, I think we may indeed see an alternative to Obama.

In fact, Obama may pull an LBJ and refuse to run for a second term although given the size of his ego, the latter does seem unlikely.

But even so, Obama’s ego needs to be deflated and the first step in that direction is to vote for as many conservatives and republicans in November as possible.


17 posted on 09/05/2010 9:51:56 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: wintertime

The black panthers will be a government paid watchdog along side ACORN.


18 posted on 09/05/2010 9:52:05 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Boy, I totally disagree with this prediction! Look what is happening now (even before this election). The Dems are distancing themselves from this guy, some are offering alternative ideas ... oh no, he hasn't got this one in the bag. The Republicans are doing a "re-building" throwing out the RINOs ... MY prediction is that after the Dems get clobbered in November, they too are going to have a little house cleaning. This is good for everybody ... the pendulum will swing BOTH with Republicans and Democrats toward "conservative."

The DNC probably won't "dump" him, but the DEMOCRATS will!

19 posted on 09/05/2010 9:52:55 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: mort56

I think you are on to something he is signing us up carte’ blanche’ with the global communism of the United Nations.


20 posted on 09/05/2010 9:53:46 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: B.O. Plenty
Lets us all encourage Hillary to enter the race.

Be careful what you wish for. Remember how Rush's "Operation Chaos" worked so well?


21 posted on 09/05/2010 9:53:49 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: B.O. Plenty

We can’t stand any more “fun”. What we need are serious people running Washington. The fun and games have to stop and these people need to get down to the business of running this country, not trying to control its people.


22 posted on 09/05/2010 9:54:23 AM PDT by RC2 (Remember who we are. "I am America")
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I won’t be surprised if he doesn’t even run in 2012. Especially if he has to produce his birth certificate.


23 posted on 09/05/2010 9:54:36 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012 (Proud Infidel)
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To: Texas Fossil

He will not run in 2012, he cannot produce a BC.

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Possibly. It is also possible that those who created him will find a use for him as a dynamically extinguished flame, who gave all in the service of “progress”.

If he is still around, and if he wants the job, no one will be able to challenge him in the primary, and win, without totally disaffecting the black vote which the Democrats MUST have on board in the general.

The theory I find most plausible is that he is auditioning for UN Secretary General. Nearly as plausible is that he is so delusional that he truly thinks this is just a rough patch, and that he will prevail, in the manner of Clinton’s re-election against the palooka Bob Dole.


24 posted on 09/05/2010 9:57:40 AM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

“They believe obama is infatuated with centrist, independent voters at the expense of the liberal agenda.”

They also believe in the Tooth Fairy, The Easter Bunny and Puff The Magic Dragon (No, not the military version....).


25 posted on 09/05/2010 9:58:17 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Because the Democrats are stuck in an unbreakable dilemma. Ether support 0 or lose the racial minority support that is the only thing that keeps them from being a minor party. If Democrats lose the bulk of the black vote they may as well not even run a candidate in 2012

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Exactly. The Hillary ‘challenge’ is moonshine.


26 posted on 09/05/2010 9:59:13 AM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: mort56

This is because he doesn’t plan to run for President again. He has set his sights on Emperor of the Universe.


That’s right. And 0bama and his thugs will burn the house (the United States) down before they surrender it.


27 posted on 09/05/2010 10:00:53 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Mustangman

To me, the Dems need to re-take Econ 101 to learn how capitalism works, study up on how cruel dictatorships are (and how America mostly tries to overthrow these tyrannies because we’re decent people at heart), and finally, how to balance a check book.

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The Democrats do know these things. These things are irrelevant to what they seek.


28 posted on 09/05/2010 10:02:16 AM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

If a non-African-American were to defeat 0bama in the Democratic primary, then many African-Americans would vote Republican (or stay at home) for the general election. This would almost certainly guarantee a Republican victory.


29 posted on 09/05/2010 10:04:16 AM PDT by reg45
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To: mort56

Some Imam in Pakistan has offered 0bama the Islamic Caliphate.


30 posted on 09/05/2010 10:06:51 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Psalm 144

Clinton’s re-election & Bob Dole?

Only an totally inept GOP leadership would have chosen Dole. And with that, with the help of the MSM and with Clinton’s engineered distractions was it possible.

The real battle is against Washington insiders and “we the people”. It comes clearer in focus each passing day.

The only solution that will work is for “we the people” to take control of the GOP and clean that house. Then DownSize DC! Clean out the scum that are destroying the nation by eliminating the functions they have acquired. Can you imagine the squeals to that prospect.

It will be a long trudge, but it must start now.


31 posted on 09/05/2010 10:07:00 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil
He will not run in 2012, he cannot produce a BC.

Many Secretaries of State will demand one this time.

That is exactly what I'm thinking. He knows he could-not and cannot kill or quell the BC controversy well enough. Once one State requires his full ID, others will too. He won't be able to ignore it. He can't or won't produce it. So, from about his 2nd or 3rd month in office on, he's known he'll be a one-term President, that he won't even run again. I think that is part of his "hurry up offense" Presidency, moving from issue to issue, crisis to crisis like a petulant 5 year old with ADHD. He and his cohorts in crime are pushing their agenda forward on many fronts.

32 posted on 09/05/2010 10:10:12 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Only an totally inept GOP leadership would have chosen Dole. And with that, with the help of the MSM and with Clinton’s engineered distractions was it possible.

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Well. Yes.


33 posted on 09/05/2010 10:10:40 AM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: MNJohnnie

Good point—if they dump ObieBamKaNumBum, they know that will make them all R-R-RAAACISSTS!!!

Talk about being hoist on your own petard.


34 posted on 09/05/2010 10:11:33 AM PDT by Humble Servant
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To: Ev Reeman
Obama is driving voters over to our side as fast as he can.
35 posted on 09/05/2010 10:14:27 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I’m really liking the image of a Gay Mosque. I think we should promote it. It ought to keep a bunch of folk with dubious intentions occupied for a while.


36 posted on 09/05/2010 10:15:25 AM PDT by Humble Servant
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I doubt Obama will run. He will retire undefeated claiming his progressive surge worked. He will state he has set the agenda for the future, energy change, less foreign war involvement and government as the economic engine. He will turn the job over to Mrs. Clinton.


37 posted on 09/05/2010 10:16:11 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: ThunderSleeps
He and his cohorts in crime

What is the statute of limitation of election fraud? When he is out of power how deep will the inquiries go? We shall see. And the public deserves a complete explanation of this treasonous fraud.

38 posted on 09/05/2010 10:16:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
President Obama is unlikely to face a Democratic foe in 2012 primary

Why should he expect a democrat when only an open socialist can hold a candle to him?

39 posted on 09/05/2010 10:16:36 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Texas Fossil
He will not run in 2012, he cannot produce a BC.

At least one state, maybe more and I can't remember which, has passed a law that all presidential contenders must show a valid birth certificates to be on that states ballot. That's all it takes, just one where Obama can't be on the ballot.

40 posted on 09/05/2010 10:18:10 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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To: Psalm 144

” It is also possible that those who created him will find a use for him as a dynamically extinguished flame, who gave all in the service of “progress”. “

Am I the only one wondering if they would be so devious as to martyr him? The British miniseries Prime Minister comes to mind.


41 posted on 09/05/2010 10:19:01 AM PDT by Humble Servant
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To: ilovesarah2012

Unless the Republican candidate says openly and often “ here are all my college records, birth certificate, passport records” and so on and challenges him to open his background too, then the records and bc will not be an issue. The Republican challenger has to make it so.


42 posted on 09/05/2010 10:20:25 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Humble Servant

A gay mosque with bacon omelettes and men showing the bottoms of their feet and women walking in front of men naked and in charge.


43 posted on 09/05/2010 10:21:07 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: mort56

Emperor of the Universe would be way too much work for BO. He just likes being a celebrity without actually working.


44 posted on 09/05/2010 10:21:20 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: library user

“Day after election Hillary will resign and begin her 2012 campaign.”

Yes, something like that will happen. It’s not believable that the Clintons would shut up and go away.


45 posted on 09/05/2010 10:21:27 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: dandiegirl

“Emperor of the Universe would be way too much work for BO. He just likes being a celebrity without actually working.”

True, but how much work would it be to say, “Off with their heads”?


46 posted on 09/05/2010 10:22:49 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: Ditter
I keep hearing that the left is not happy with him because he is not left enough. Hard to believe.

To the new American left, Vladimir Lenin was a conservative.

47 posted on 09/05/2010 10:23:05 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: dandiegirl

Even if the challenger makes an issue of even Obama’s college records the MSM will AGAIN cover for Obama and post pictures of him with a halo around his head.


48 posted on 09/05/2010 10:23:57 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: library user
If Hillary did that she wouldn't get the black vote. Without the black vote she doesn't stand a chance of winning.

Zippo will have to find a reason for not running.

Just a guess, but I'd say he's going to claim there is too much racism in the country for there to be a black president.

49 posted on 09/05/2010 10:24:05 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Texas Fossil
He will not run in 2012, he cannot produce a BC.

I think he could produce one but something on it is damaging.

50 posted on 09/05/2010 10:26:18 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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