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VA, ATF say no guns for Iraq war vet
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | September 5, 2010 | David Codrea

Posted on 09/05/2010 11:41:07 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright

"Iraq Veteran Stripped of Right To Bear Arms," 5 News Ft Smith-Fayetteville tells us.

Why?

"A year ago the Irelan's began receiving a small stipend from Veterans Affairs because Lana had to take over the family's finances...The V.A. declared Wayne Irelan incompetent and now his right to own a gun is gone."

Why would they do that, and what are the repercussions?

"Irelan has post traumatic stress disorder from the Iraq war, but his wife says he has never been violent...The couple didn't know Wayne's gun rights had been terminated until they went to get a gun out of pawn. Days later Wayne got a letter from the Arkansas State Police saying his concealed carry permit had been revoked. The ATF has told the Irelans that they could go to jail if a firearm is found in their home."

How did such a state of affairs come to be?

Why don't we ask that "gun lobby" we're told never compromises?

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; batf; codrea; examiner; guns; military; obama; ptsd; secondamendment; teaparty; vets
Thanks NRA .... buttwipes!!!!

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1 posted on 09/05/2010 11:41:09 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright
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To: freema; RaceBannon

ping


2 posted on 09/05/2010 11:44:27 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Once they could justify taking God Given Rights away from one group (felons) they can justify it for anyone.

Now it's Misdemeanors, two DUI’s, domestic violence, restraining orders, mental disorders determined by doctors without due process, and now our own returning Veterans.

I think that is what's known as the slippery slope.

3 posted on 09/05/2010 12:06:16 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (People I know have papers for their mongrels.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Actions have consequences. He wants to collect a lifetime disability, he’s got to pay the cost.


4 posted on 09/05/2010 12:14:50 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Kathy in Alaska; Brad's Gramma; AZamericonnie
This is critical.

The Canteen (and other serviceman dailies) should be making note of this for awhile, so those overseas know just what is going on.

5 posted on 09/05/2010 12:17:27 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

You are absolutely correct; I have been telling everyone this for years. What they can do to one they can do to all, depending on what they want to do at any given moment, using some excuse or justification.

Just like the Fort Hood murderer Maj. Nidal M. Hasan who was made golden while fulfilling the artful values of Islam; he can have his constitutional rights because he had the approved government beliefs and practices.


6 posted on 09/05/2010 12:20:25 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: PAR35
Actions have consequences. He wants to collect a lifetime disability, he’s got to pay the cost.

That is BS in the extreme.

7 posted on 09/05/2010 12:22:28 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: PAR35
Actions have consequences. He wants to collect a lifetime disability, he’s got to pay the cost.

Thank you Benny Hinn, for your brilliant point that veterens choose to develope PTSD.

They can just believe and they will be healed.

Expect me not to send you twenty dollars to pray for anyones healing in the forseeable future.

8 posted on 09/05/2010 12:22:40 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: PAR35
Actions have consequences. He wants to collect a lifetime disability, he’s got to pay the cost.

That is one of the most asinine statements I've seen in over ten years on FreeRepublic and I don't know where to begin to address it without showering you with personal insults.

9 posted on 09/05/2010 1:07:28 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; ntmxx
Now it's Misdemeanors, two DUI’s, domestic violence, restraining orders, mental disorders determined by doctors without due process, and now our own returning Veterans.

NOW folks are beginning to see the light but alas, too late but we still must fight this growing scourge. Like ntmxx, we've been following this trend for some time and could easily see the agenda behind it.

10 posted on 09/05/2010 1:07:55 PM PDT by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: muddler
BS, yes ... but it's also the way it is.

incrementalism, compromise, political correctness ... you name it and it has chipped away at America for many years.

The power now is emboldened by enablement.

Black Panthers are let off the hook, for example.

If it was me and I had such a maniacle mind ... I'd already have two, maybe three actions planned.

That's me just commenting on an article ... what do you suppose the real people emboldened are doing?

11 posted on 09/05/2010 1:24:11 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: PAR35
Actions have consequences. He wants to collect a lifetime disability, he’s got to pay the cost.

You must know all about his situation, since you're willing to judge him from behind your keyboard.

(I'm guessing not though)

12 posted on 09/05/2010 1:27:15 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: All
Don't forget the previous thread comments... Alert... Paging all groupies... Paging all groupies... your immediate defense is required!

Iraq Veteran Stripped of Right To Bear Arms

13 posted on 09/05/2010 1:27:39 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Neil E. Wright
BTW the "No Compromise Gun Lobby" is the GOA and you shouldn't sully their moniker by attaching it to other gun rights groups that do... just sayin. ;-)
14 posted on 09/05/2010 1:34:51 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet
That was David Codrea that did that .... I just posted his article .... :)

The NRA is ALL ABOUT COMPROMISE! They've been selling us for for decades ... :(

It's about

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★ Estimated Value – PRICELESS! ★

15 posted on 09/05/2010 1:44:26 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER OathKeeper III We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: Neil E. Wright

My bad... ;-)


16 posted on 09/05/2010 2:21:41 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Neil E. Wright
Also in that article: I do find it interesting that ATF essentially advised that one prohibited person is all it takes to disarm everyone under the same roof.

Yeah, so because she is married to someone who has supposedly lost his rights, she has no rights?

17 posted on 09/05/2010 3:18:02 PM PDT by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: PAR35

I must disagree.


18 posted on 09/05/2010 3:20:16 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: PAR35

> Actions have consequences. He wants to collect a lifetime disability, he’s got to pay the cost.
Those are the words of a Liberal Troll !!!


19 posted on 09/05/2010 3:29:14 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama, the Criminal, is BAD for our country.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Welcome to FR.


20 posted on 09/05/2010 3:55:18 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Neil E. Wright

This was all predicted before the NICS “Improvement” act got passed the NRA called those of us who were predicting it paranoid. This was the final straw that removed the NRA rose colored glasses from my eyes.

Gun control is gun control. With groups like the NRA who needs the Brady bunch?


21 posted on 09/05/2010 4:58:22 PM PDT by Dayman
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To: MrEdd

Thank you for the ping Mr Edd.


22 posted on 09/05/2010 6:41:46 PM PDT by AZamericonnie (I can see November from my house!)
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To: AZamericonnie

Welcome


23 posted on 09/05/2010 6:51:38 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Politically Correct
Yeah, so because she is married to someone who has supposedly lost his rights, she has no rights?

Ahh, the American hating, Constitution violating, criminal dirt-bags at the BATFE... If we are able to restore the constitutional foundations of our country, the scumbag A-wipes at the ATF need to be the first to go, as they are all Oath-Breakers!

24 posted on 09/06/2010 5:48:12 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Neil E. Wright; southernsunshine; cowboyway
I'm a bit confused -- Arkansas Concealed weapons permits qualify as a Brady alternative - meaning - there would be no phone call to NICS.

If he had the permit, then why was the transfer denied? Furthermore, the ATF forms remain with the Store of purchase.

Like I said, I'm confused... He walks up and picks out a firearm, hands over his permit and drivers license, the paperwork is completed, he leaves.

Unless, his wife tried to purchase the firearm, then the scent hounds could have followed their trail..

25 posted on 09/06/2010 6:01:54 AM PDT by Idabilly ("When injustice becomes law....Resistance becomes DUTY !")
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To: ForGod'sSake

Ping


26 posted on 09/06/2010 6:41:47 AM PDT by Idabilly ("When injustice becomes law....Resistance becomes DUTY !")
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To: Idabilly

Hmm, good points...


27 posted on 09/06/2010 8:04:40 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet; Neil E. Wright
You know, I've had many words with the NRA concerning their unkind nature and behavior. They have become just as big of a problem as the libtards themselves.

They "remained silent" on the Lautenberg amendment. They demanded the NICS system, which denies Americans their Second Amend rights for nothing other than traffic violations. It's even more sickening when THEY/NICS make mistakes - it's the American that is guilty until proven innocent.

This is all senseless anyhow. Federal Gun laws are, and should be, Unconstitutional! The Commerce clause does not supersede the Bill of Rights or the Rights retained by the States.

28 posted on 09/06/2010 9:33:46 AM PDT by Idabilly ("When injustice becomes law....Resistance becomes DUTY !")
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