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American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?
The New York Times ^ | September 5, 2010 | LAURIE GOODSTEIN

Posted on 09/05/2010 8:25:01 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh

For nine years after the attacks of Sept. 11, many American Muslims made concerted efforts to build relationships with non-Muslims, to make it clear they abhor terrorism, to educate people about Islam and to participate in interfaith service projects. They took satisfaction in the observations by many scholars that Muslims in America were more successful and assimilated than Muslims in Europe.

Now, many of those same Muslims say that all of those years of work are being rapidly undone by the fierce opposition to a Muslim cultural center near ground zero that has unleashed a torrent of anti-Muslim sentiments and a spate of vandalism. The knifing of a Muslim cab driver in New York City has also alarmed many American Muslims.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; groundzeromosque; islam; muslims; obama; sharia
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"But we do wonder whether it will get to the point where people don’t want Muslims here anymore.”

You can stop wondering.

1 posted on 09/05/2010 8:25:07 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I echo the words:... you can stop wondering.


2 posted on 09/05/2010 8:26:21 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Pick one as the Koran and Constitution are virtually mutually exclusive...


3 posted on 09/05/2010 8:26:27 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER from my house....)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Sorry, you’re time is up. Should’ve spoken SOONER and LOUDER. Even to THIS day. Otherwise...........GTHO. Your credibility is in the toilet.


4 posted on 09/05/2010 8:27:26 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

“Will We Ever Belong?”

No.


5 posted on 09/05/2010 8:27:56 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
For nine years after the attacks of Sept. 11, many American Muslims made concerted efforts to build relationships with non-Muslims, to make it clear they abhor terrorism, to educate people about Islam and to participate in interfaith service projects.

Many? Utter horses**t. Even the most moderate can barely force themselves to condemn an obvious terrorist group like Hamas.

6 posted on 09/05/2010 8:28:19 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Sounds like Belongophobia to me.


7 posted on 09/05/2010 8:28:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Algore is a politician and a con artist. He is NOT a scientist.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
....many American Muslims made concerted efforts to build relationships with non-Muslims, to make it clear they abhor terrorism,...

They have?!

8 posted on 09/05/2010 8:28:49 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Germans in 1932 thought they were voting for change too.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?

Not as long as you adhere to a subversive ideology that seeks the destruction of American values and liberties, you won't.

9 posted on 09/05/2010 8:29:16 PM PDT by Minn
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To: Malone LaVeigh
You can stop wondering.

Right On! Not only do they not belong in America, they don't belong on earth! Thousands of years of progress for mankind and those savages still live in the stone age.

10 posted on 09/05/2010 8:29:18 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Malone LaVeigh

If they want to blend in and not impose their religion on everybody else, then yes, maybe they can belong. But Muslims are not willing to do that.


11 posted on 09/05/2010 8:29:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Malone LaVeigh

No kidding.


12 posted on 09/05/2010 8:30:30 PM PDT by Ronin (If it were not so gruesomely malevolent, Islam would just be silly.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Not for quite a few generations.


13 posted on 09/05/2010 8:30:33 PM PDT by B4Ranch (America was founded by MARKSMEN, not Marxists.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?


NO, stop asking.


14 posted on 09/05/2010 8:30:39 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Move the thing 1/4 mi and it will be over.


15 posted on 09/05/2010 8:30:39 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Malone LaVeigh; All

You can quit wondering, Bucko.


16 posted on 09/05/2010 8:31:27 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

 

   

17 posted on 09/05/2010 8:31:38 PM PDT by Fintan
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Not if you still think—collectively or individually—that the US deserved 9/11, and will only be redeemed by converting to Islam.


18 posted on 09/05/2010 8:31:51 PM PDT by paudio (The Democrats have been majority in Congress since 2006, not 2008!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Cry me a river.


19 posted on 09/05/2010 8:31:58 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Malone LaVeigh
all of those years of work are being rapidly undone by the fierce opposition to a "in your face" construction of a triumphal Muslim cultural center near ground zero...

Fixed it.

20 posted on 09/05/2010 8:32:06 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Why do I ever read this sociological liberal guilt-trip crap by the Times? Every one of these articles focuses on a segment of the population and determines both that its problems stem from innocent victimhood and also that they're all my fault.

Go figure.

21 posted on 09/05/2010 8:32:10 PM PDT by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: Fintan

“Will we ever belong?”

Yes — in a cave, with no plumbing, combing your goat, worshipping Barry Soetoro.


22 posted on 09/05/2010 8:33:01 PM PDT by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I have no problem with muslims. I have a problem with anyone who wants to secede from the country to run their own governments and blow things up when angered and hide behind religion to do it. If Christians, Jews, Amish, Hindus, or Zoroastrians did that, I’d have a problem with them too.

It’s not who they are that bothers me. It’s what they do.


23 posted on 09/05/2010 8:33:18 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Most "have nots" are not "can nots". Most are "will nots".)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Dear NY Slimes,

There is a very simple reason that there is growing animosity towards mulsims in this country, and it's directly cause by their complaints that we're insensitive to their feelings, while at the same time, sticking a red-hot poker in our collective eye. Why is it that they can't be sensitive to America's feelings?

Mark

24 posted on 09/05/2010 8:33:28 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Most-if not all—Muslim leaders only started to talk about ‘terrorism’ when their respective countries were attacked by Al Qaeda, couple years after 9/11. Before that, they were quiet, and seemed to agree with the attackers.


25 posted on 09/05/2010 8:33:41 PM PDT by paudio (The Democrats have been majority in Congress since 2006, not 2008!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?

Sure. But you have to agree that the rule of law and Constitutional rights take precedence over Sharia.

26 posted on 09/05/2010 8:33:41 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Malone LaVeigh; Yehuda; sheik yerbouty
For nine years after the attacks of Sept. 11, many American Muslims made concerted efforts to build relationships with non-Muslims, to make it clear they abhor terrorism crickets chirped...
27 posted on 09/05/2010 8:34:00 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?

Seeing how the NYT doesn't even think Christians belong here, it's an odd question. (And I'm an atheist.)

28 posted on 09/05/2010 8:34:17 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?

No.


29 posted on 09/05/2010 8:34:23 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Minn

Post #9 you totally nailed it. I was going to respond but your comment completely took my breath away.


30 posted on 09/05/2010 8:34:55 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

There is no such thing as a muslim-American.

Two words that are incompatible.

Just as there is no such thing as a Christian-American.

It really is time to go after the whore writers, and make it personal.


31 posted on 09/05/2010 8:35:08 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Most of us here are armed and ready to fight against Sharia Law. If these clowns want Sharia Law, I suggest they move back to the 3rd world Islamic Hell-hole they came from.


32 posted on 09/05/2010 8:35:54 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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all of those years of work are being rapidly undone by the fierce opposition to a Muslim cultural center near ground zero

If these folks are sincere, then they must recognize that this work is being undone by the defiance of the Muslims whose claims of wanting to belong are absurd.

It's not the opposition that's undoing this, it's the audacity of a religion welcomed here as all beliefs are giving a middle finger to the rest of us at the sight of our most tender wound.

If you're looking for someone to blame, Muslims, look to your own, who claim to want to assimilate and then do PRECISELY what someone who wants anything BUT that would do.

33 posted on 09/05/2010 8:37:17 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Was I asleep when American Muslims were vociferously protesting their fellow muslim’s actions on 9/11??? Because I can only seem to remember being CONSTANTLY hectored about how I need to be more TOLERANT of Muslims. Guys, seriously, forget it. The normal American will never accept you , even the leftists. Your culture is garbage, your tolerance is nonexistant and fankly you’re a bunch of thin skinned crybaby assholes.


34 posted on 09/05/2010 8:38:21 PM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: Malone LaVeigh

The problem is that periodically a young Muslim man will become devout, and become a true believer in Islam, and people will die horribly.

That never goes away in Islam.


35 posted on 09/05/2010 8:38:28 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Malone LaVeigh

....insult us some more. That’ll make us like you....


36 posted on 09/05/2010 8:39:05 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Uhhhhhhhh............... NO!!!!
37 posted on 09/05/2010 8:39:17 PM PDT by ZULU (God, guts and guns made America great,)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

They won’t belong because they don’t belong. Their ideology is hateful. We don’t want to stone people, decapitate them, amputate extremities, etc. They need to return to their beloved whatever it is that they love.


38 posted on 09/05/2010 8:39:42 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Malone LaVeigh

It’s easy if you want to belong...
Bring us the head of Osama Bin Ladin..
The reward would finance the building of a really nice mosque.
I’d be one of the first visitors, probably leave a donation.


39 posted on 09/05/2010 8:39:42 PM PDT by Waverunner
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Was I asleep when American Muslims were vociferously protesting their fellow muslim’s actions on 9/11??? Because I can only seem to remember being CONSTANTLY hectored about how I need to be more TOLERANT of Muslims. Guys, seriously, forget it. The normal American will never accept you , even the leftists. Your culture is garbage, your tolerance is nonexistant and fankly you’re a bunch of thin skinned crybaby assholes.


40 posted on 09/05/2010 8:39:57 PM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: steel_resolve

Couldn’t have said it better myself!


41 posted on 09/05/2010 8:41:09 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Ditto this!

42 posted on 09/05/2010 8:41:55 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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"The knifing of a Muslim cab driver in New York City has also alarmed many American Muslims."

The senseless murder of nearly 3000 citizens on 9/11, the murder of 13 soldiers at Ft. Hood and two more shot, one killed in Arkansas has a few Americans a wee bit concerned too.

Cry me a river, but when American Muslims stand up and oust those that do these dastardly deeds from their midst's, I'll feel more like accepting them.

43 posted on 09/05/2010 8:44:24 PM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

A man I work with told me that his teenage child was told by a Muslim friend that what the NAZIs did was good. This occurred in a prosperous middle-class suburb if NYC.

I wonder who taught that Muslim child to admire NAZIsm? It’s very unfortunate, but not hard to figure out.


44 posted on 09/05/2010 8:45:00 PM PDT by devere
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To: Malone LaVeigh

HG Wells probably had a prophetic vision of what our world will evolve into many generations from now and I believe the Morlocks of the future will originate with Islam.

The Eloi are christians.

Go see the original film ye thee of Islamic faith.


45 posted on 09/05/2010 8:45:18 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Personal Responsibility

I have an even bigger problem with those who wish to impose an alien religious and judicial system on the American people.


46 posted on 09/05/2010 8:45:54 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Malone LaVeigh

When they quit sympathizing with their mad brethren who want to take over America (which is approximately when pigs will fly) is when America will be ready to bid them a warm welcome instead of a hot goodbye.


47 posted on 09/05/2010 8:47:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Muslims can belong...somewhere other than America...American Muslim is a contradiction.


48 posted on 09/05/2010 8:47:41 PM PDT by PoloSec (Note to Princess B H Obama: May PISS be Upon Mohammads Head...You Pervert1 Corinthians 15:3 For I de)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
The knifing of a Muslim cab driver in New York City has also alarmed many American Muslims.

Gee, NYT, I'm so shocked that once again you 'forgot' to mention that the cabbie's attacker was a white American who was working for a pro-Muslim film company.  Do you suppose that the reason why the "American Muslims" are so alarmed is because he got to see true Islam up close and it made him go nuts because the reality of Islam is the exact opposite of what the Left would like everyone to believe?

49 posted on 09/05/2010 8:48:51 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Longbow1969

many American Muslims made concerted efforts to build relationships with non-Muslims, to make it clear they abhor terrorism
BULLSHIT that statement is total BULLSHIT


50 posted on 09/05/2010 8:51:39 PM PDT by sonic109
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