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American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?
The New York Times ^ | September 5, 2010 | LAURIE GOODSTEIN

Posted on 09/05/2010 8:25:01 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh

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To: Malone LaVeigh

Got to the point of not wanting Muslims here on September 11,2001 about 12 noon.


101 posted on 09/05/2010 11:37:41 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Beowulf9

Muslims are asking if they will ever belong here.

A malignant cancer never “belongs” in a body. It matters not that cancer cells share some characteristics with healthy cells, or that some of the cancerous cells are not currently invading and destroying vital organs. We know the natural history of this disease, and we know that radical cures are the only hope.


102 posted on 09/05/2010 11:40:28 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Religion of P*ss.


103 posted on 09/05/2010 11:40:48 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: MarkL

Because they are taught from birth that they are superior to every other culture/society on earth - therefore the sensitivity of others isn’t even on their radar. And of course they are not interested in assimiliation if they think everyone else is so inferior.

Also been told that Americans can be guiltified into rolling over for their whining. And way too many can be.


104 posted on 09/05/2010 11:46:59 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

They merely have to assimilate. America will not assimilate to them.


105 posted on 09/05/2010 11:59:34 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

This coming from Laurie Goodstein who personally waged jihad against the Catholic Church and specifically the Pope.


106 posted on 09/06/2010 12:16:48 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Where was your outrage when Major Hassan killed his fellow troops on the military base?

Where were you when your fellow muslim shot up the recruiting station in Arkansas.

Where were you when your fellow muslim sought to set off a car bomb in Times Square.

Frankly, you can stop wondering. There are far too many horrific acts by muslims that you couldn’t bring yourself to condemn.


107 posted on 09/06/2010 12:18:03 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

108 posted on 09/06/2010 12:43:21 AM PDT by Nellie Wilkerson
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To: Malone LaVeigh

It’s a wonder that they’re still wondering..


109 posted on 09/06/2010 12:59:08 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
All it takes for evil to triumph is for the good muslims to continue to do NOTHING.

You won't belong with us until you choose our side.

110 posted on 09/06/2010 1:04:53 AM PDT by Captainpaintball (If the right has TEABAGGERS, then the left has SCUMBAGGERS and DOUCHEBAGGERS!!!)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

It’s high time that the elephant in the living room is addressed.

Islam is NOT a religion. It is a socio-economic model of government that is highly restrictive, totalitarian, dictatorial, and brutally repressive.

Islam should NOT be viewed, or treated, equally with Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, etc. under our Constitution. None of these true religions seek to dominate their governments or fellow citizens.....unlike Islam.

I chafe every time I hear these slimebags trot out the First Amendment when they whine about Islamic “rights”. Bull. They want to impose Sharia upon the lot of us, and that makes Islam as loathsome to Americans as Nazism, Communism, or any other violence-ridden, blood-soaked, totalitarian form of government.

In short....Islam should be banned in this country.


111 posted on 09/06/2010 1:34:15 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Are Muslims on the battlefield fighting the terrorists? That's my test. I being a Christian have no problem resisting any Christian group that would use terrorism to push the Gospel of Christ on others. But I seem to think that most Muslims don't believe that in relation to the Muslims that would use violence to spread their religion. I seem to hear a lot of talk and little action. I could be wrong though.

If a Muslim rejects terrorism and declares that all people have the right to practice their religion in peace then I say welcome. I even say welcome even more if they take up the sword against those who force their religion on others.

112 posted on 09/06/2010 1:41:26 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: RightOnline

I couldn’t have said it better myself. No really... I couldn’t. =)


113 posted on 09/06/2010 1:54:02 AM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
For nine years after the attacks of Sept. 11, many American Muslims made concerted efforts to build relationships with non-Muslims, to make it clear they abhor terrorism,...

I wonder what planet I've been on these past nine years?

114 posted on 09/06/2010 1:58:30 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: wac3rd

BINGO !!!! Bing Freaking GO !


115 posted on 09/06/2010 2:25:09 AM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Welcome?
Nope, NEVER.
After 9-11 had you damned mooselimbs come out and strongly condemed the attack then maybe. But NONE of you did that and very few have since.
Most moosies around the world cheered.
Feel welcome?
Go back to the sand pile scum.


116 posted on 09/06/2010 3:21:25 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Americans or Muslims?


117 posted on 09/06/2010 4:07:39 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

“American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?”
Well actually no. We don’t really want people here who are waiting for an opportunity to kill us. And PLEEEEEEEEEEZE don’t babble about a Religion of Peace.
If you are a good Muslim you follow the koran. If you follow the koran you want to kill people, so no we don’t want you and get lost. We have built a great country without you and your inbred half witted children so now you know.


118 posted on 09/06/2010 4:20:51 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: sonic109

I agree. BS. Terrorists are the “peaceful” mooslim’s alter-ego. mooslim credo: I love you. I will kill you and your children. Boom! Slash!


119 posted on 09/06/2010 4:37:37 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: quantim

” There is no such thing as a muslim-American.

Two words that are incompatible.

Just as there is no such thing as a Christian-American.

It really is time to go after the whore writers, and make it personal.”

.... that needed repeated


120 posted on 09/06/2010 5:00:16 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: Malone LaVeigh

If “they abhor terrorism” they’d better leave Islam. They obviously haven’t read the Koran.


121 posted on 09/06/2010 5:26:22 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
It seems only the NYTimes "found" this reference, I sure hadn't seen anybody talking like this. In a book I'm reading, the character asks "what is a moderate Muslim?" ... then other character answers, "one who is out of ammunition." Worth a chuckle, but that's the way it "is" today. They have created their own perception by their violent actions (which continue today) and by their silence. You don't Dance in the Streets after something like 9-11 then ask to be "included" in that same ridiculed society... isn't going to happen.

9-11 ... NEVER Forget!

122 posted on 09/06/2010 7:25:49 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: noinfringers2

What the Koran says or does not say is not the main issue. They use it as an excuse to blow up innocents, conquer, and enslave. That is the issue.


123 posted on 09/06/2010 7:35:59 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Most "have nots" are not "can nots". Most are "will nots".)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Let’s ask Salman Rushdie about Muslim moderation. Let’s ask Theo Van Gogh, or the mutiliated woman, or the silenced murder victims, be they homosexuals or the adulteress. Can we stop the lies for 15 minutes and have an honest discussion? This is such a disingenuous article that I tripped over the hypocrisy.

Muslims have a hair trigger sensitivity to the rejection of the Ground Zero mosque, while in the next breath they are telling the 9/11 victims to shut up and take this so-called wonderful gift. I am sorry but slum lord, Hamas supporting Rauf does not get to decide how 9/11 is commemorated, and it is awfully presumptious of him and other Muslims to put this out there and then call us bigots for rejecting it. Americans are not allowed to have feelings about this heinous murder because we are just bigots - and Muslims are suddenly the arbiters of politeness in society?

I find it repulsive to be lectured about toleration from Islamist propagandists. When one million Christians in Saudi Arabia cannot publicly practice their religion under pain of flogging and jail, I am dumbfounded by the hypocrisy. When they stone women for adultery, mutilate females, engage in honor killings, stab film makers to death, throw homosexuals off buildings, treat women like animals, refuse to educate girls and sell non Muslim black Africans into slavery - I am confused, where is the “brotherhood”, where is the gentleness of Islam these proponents tell us about? Where are their cultural center shrines for those victims? Can they sanitize their own house before they demand to clean ours?

This is too one-way and until I hear a balanced debate I reject all their claims.

I would respect them greatly if they took their ‘moderate Muslim’ money and built Christian churches in Saudi Arabis for their guest workers. Then I may begin to believe.

The ‘moderates’ in my view have not even attempted to speak out against the massive horrors their co-religionists continue to inflict upon the world, yet their hair trigger sensitivity calls the most tolerant nation on Earth a bunch of bigots. I reject their claim.


124 posted on 09/06/2010 7:48:45 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Perhaps if you reform your “faith” and bring it from the eleventh century to the twenty-first century we can have a chat.

Until then, your “good book” dictates that you either convert (at the tip of a sword if necessary) enslave or kill me. No thanks, I don’t want that mentality as a next door neighbor.


125 posted on 09/06/2010 7:52:09 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (If Pelosi were Pope abortion would be a sacrament.)
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To: ansel12
That’ll make us like you....

No, he'd have to kill a few hundred people over the insult in order to be just like you.

126 posted on 09/06/2010 8:18:49 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Titus-Maximus

Regarding your #124, excellent post! Superb!


127 posted on 09/06/2010 8:32:07 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

That isn’t my quote, you must have meant to post to someone else.


128 posted on 09/06/2010 8:37:14 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: dagogo redux

“...and we know that radical cures are the only hope.”

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Playing the game, cowboys and muslims?


129 posted on 09/06/2010 10:07:48 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

It is better for them to leave than to assimilate.


130 posted on 09/06/2010 10:09:09 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: wac3rd

“Did you note the author’s last name?”

Goodstein? I went back to the article to check the name of the writer. I wonder why you asked whether I noticed.

I originally noted that the article was in the New York Times, which was enough to understand that the article was going to be leftist Bu*lsh*^.

If you are drawing my attention to the fact that the writers name sounds (and probably is) Jewish, then my response is that there is no surprise there.

Leftist, so called progressive Jews are secularists. They do not practice the religion. Progressives, no matter what their religion, worship the state. They are the enemy.

What are your thoughts on that?


131 posted on 09/06/2010 10:12:03 AM PDT by SkipW
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To: Malone LaVeigh
American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?

Not as a muslim. Forsake that tyrannical, insane death cult that is Islam, and then perhaps, maybe, someday.

132 posted on 09/06/2010 10:13:33 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Captainpaintball

“....is for the good muslims to continue to do NOTHING.”

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Can anyone tell a redeeming story about Islam that happened in the past 1600 years?


133 posted on 09/06/2010 10:14:15 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: gidget7

Full assimilation will mean that they become heretics and apostates (I.e. Salmon Rushdie, Ayaan Hirsi Ali et al)to the the rest of them thus making them even more vulnerable that the remaining non muslim population.


134 posted on 09/06/2010 10:15:08 AM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER from my house....)
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To: Thrownatbirth

“Maybe Americans are just overly sensitive to cultures immersed in beheadings and flying body parts.”

Yes! Americans are funny that way, aren’t they?


135 posted on 09/06/2010 10:15:32 AM PDT by SkipW
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To: jmaroneps37

Will you please give GW a call and repeat your message to him? I am still waiting for him to retract that foolish saying.


136 posted on 09/06/2010 10:18:46 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

NO! So get the “F” out of our great country. Go back to countries so you can beat your women and rape your boys.


137 posted on 09/06/2010 10:27:57 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: ansel12

Yes, so it seems. Sorry about that poor aim.


138 posted on 09/06/2010 10:35:59 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Waverunner
Bring us the head of Osama Bin Ladin..

That is a show of faith that will never happen but a great post!

139 posted on 09/06/2010 12:24:42 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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To: caww; Nat Turner

Yes I realize that, hence it will never happen. Which was my point.


140 posted on 09/06/2010 2:59:00 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Titus-Maximus
I would respect them greatly if they took their ‘moderate Muslim’ money and built Christian churches in Saudi Arabis for their guest workers.

Great point. Even John D. Rockefeller, a fierce anti-Catholic, built Catholic churches for the Irish who worked on his estates.

141 posted on 09/08/2010 12:47:31 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Malone LaVeigh

No, because Muslims have no intention of belonging.

They have to rule.


142 posted on 09/08/2010 12:52:29 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Malone LaVeigh
“Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting “Jesus Christ,” so that it would read “A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;” the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.”
-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom

You may worship as you wish. But you will never be truly American until you accept American values. Equality of women, freedom of speech, freedom of worship, limited government, no government establishment of religion; etc.

In other words, y'all have a lot of work to do.

“The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.” Winston Churchill

143 posted on 09/08/2010 12:53:48 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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