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Open letter to conservatives who back same-sex marriage
WND ^ | September 6, 2010 | David Kupelain

Posted on 09/06/2010 9:57:15 AM PDT by LonelyCon

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Okay, so here's my worry: It seems like every day another Republican or so-called conservative says they're now for gay "marriage". It only seems to go one way. I cannot think of one high-profile Democrat or liberal who has ever said something along the lines of, "You know what, I've thought carefully about the issue and come to the conclusion that the world is changing, I was wrong, and I now believe marriage should only be between a man and a woman." It's always the right caving in to the pro-gay side. How will this trend ever be reversed?
1 posted on 09/06/2010 9:57:17 AM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon

Has it ever occurred to you that you are hearing only what the MSM wants you to hear?


2 posted on 09/06/2010 10:01:17 AM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: fwdude

You think WND is part of the MSM?


3 posted on 09/06/2010 10:02:19 AM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon

Holy Rattling H - E Double Hockey Sticks!!

I think the Rapture has already happened.

Armageddon can’t be far off. As it was in the days of Noah.....

Disgust. Revulsion. Horror. Sickening. Ghastly.


4 posted on 09/06/2010 10:02:40 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: fwdude

That occurs to me every time they put something in print.

Conservatives approve of same sex marriage?

I didn’t see any conservatives in that list.

Republicans, yes.. Conservatives, no.


5 posted on 09/06/2010 10:03:33 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: LonelyCon

Listen up.

It will not be stopped.

It cannot be stopped.

We have so dumbed down the people that they are incapable of understanding what are the causes of our coming collapse.

Simply put: Self government, requires self control. A people unwilling to self regulate their passions and lusts will soon there after be unable to control their spending, their education, and eventually their own self defense.

It is not that Homosexuality causes these things. It is very simply that the open acceptance of homosexuality is the very last “Bridge Out Ahead” sign on the highway to hell.

We are about to pass it. Once we do, momentum will take us over the end of the bridge and to our fiery death below.

Like the joke says. It’s not the fall that kills you. It’s the sudden stop at the end.

So please, no “you are just giving up” or “You are helping the sodomites win”. Please, I nearly got banned for calling these wicked abominations what they are and by direct order, I am not allowed to use such words. So know, I am as opposed as any can be. But we HAVE lost.

It’s over. Deal with it now while you are still free to do so. Deal with it while we can still have a somewhat free debate here. The day is coming and coming so fast, when even your church will not be able to say the very Word of God without being closed, arrested, sued, or killed.

Teach your children how to live for Christ in a soviet styled nation. It is coming and it is already within our own house as we sleep!

When I say deal with it, I mean as if you were just woken by the sounds of men in you home and about to open the bedroom door in seconds and you have NO weapons able to stop them.

What do you do?

Prepare!!


6 posted on 09/06/2010 10:09:45 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: LonelyCon

I consider myself socially conservative and do not think churches should be forced to participate in or sanctions that are inconsistent with their beliefs.

If that’s what gay marriage is, then I’m against it. If, on the other hand, gay marriage is making life easier for two (or ten) people, then I don’t care.

The issue has become so political that the obvious solution — get government out of the pews — is not an option.

I understand the ‘slippery slope’ theory and appreciate that this could become a stepping stone to adoption rights and other things I don’t think are good for society, but put a gay marriage/pro life on the ballot with a defense of marriage/pro choice candidate and it’s a no brainer for me.


7 posted on 09/06/2010 10:12:51 AM PDT by wizwor (http://danvilledelivery.wordpress.com/)
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To: LonelyCon
Once upon a time, homosexuality was considered a mental disorder, to be so afflicted would automatically disqualify someone from obtaining a security clearance, or to be allowed to teach children, and it would get that person dishonorably discharged from the military with no ifs, ands or buts. I have seen nothing to suggest that those (and other) prohibitions on homosexuals were unwarranted.

Human behavior may change, but the laws of nature do NOT change, nor does the Word of God, which states that such behavior is an abomination.
8 posted on 09/06/2010 10:14:47 AM PDT by mkjessup ("Wait by the river and your enemies will float by" - old Japanese proverb, and I'm waitin'.)
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To: LonelyCon
MO ... they caved to the power of satan.

Evil is evil. Sin in sin.

9 posted on 09/06/2010 10:15:21 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: LonelyCon

Two words.

Sodom

Gomorrah

‘nuf said!


10 posted on 09/06/2010 10:16:47 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Tax-chick

bttt


11 posted on 09/06/2010 10:16:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm on vacation. Posts, if any, will probably be silly. You been warned! Fins up!)
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To: wizwor

Dittow, wizwor, although I do think gays should be able to adopt. I have several gay friends who are doing a spectacular job raising adopted children, and one couple went out of their way to adopt special needs children.


12 posted on 09/06/2010 10:17:13 AM PDT by cammie
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To: mkjessup

The Bible actually says it is a mental disorder as well.

In Romans it says because they did not WISH to RETAIN knowledge of God, He gave them over...

He does not give up on Murderers, Adulterers, Thieves, Liars. He does give up on the Sodomites.

Why? Because they are not reprogrammable after a certain point. They go down a dark road into mental defect from which there is no return.

This is why so FEW do repent and recover. Oh, some do, Praise Be. But most do not, will not, cannot.


13 posted on 09/06/2010 10:18:20 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: LonelyCon

We are in a period of tyranny of the minority and have been for years now. Much evil (abortion) has been made okay.

God help us in our day.

God allows men to do evil and go his own way, and there are consequences.


14 posted on 09/06/2010 10:19:43 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: mkjessup

Once upon a time, marrying someone of a different race was considered to be an actionable crime... Once upon a time women were considered property...


15 posted on 09/06/2010 10:19:43 AM PDT by cammie
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To: RachelFaith

Can’t imagine worshipping a God who gives up on ANYONE.


16 posted on 09/06/2010 10:21:07 AM PDT by cammie
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To: LonelyCon
All that the GOP has to do to win big in November is keep its mouth shut. Every time that these so-called leaders in the Conservative and Libertarian parties opens their mouths, they lose votes. Why create division when it is not needed? There are enough things that divide us as it is.
17 posted on 09/06/2010 10:22:43 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: RachelFaith

“So please, no “you are just giving up” or “You are helping the sodomites win”. Please, I nearly got banned for calling these wicked abominations what they are and by direct order, I am not allowed to use such words. So know, I am as opposed as any can be. But we HAVE lost.”

Lots of Freepers say the same as you and they are not being banned or Kicked off or warned. The moderators don’t want us being uncivil to one another that’s all. Homosexuality is an abomination...and there will be none that continued to practise such in their lives allowed into heaven! If the moderators are banning this then Free Republic has become corrupted. But I don’t think we’re there yet!


18 posted on 09/06/2010 10:23:09 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: LonelyCon
Conservatives who back same sex marriage are like conservatives who back subsidized government medical care.

Conservatives who back same sex marriage are like conservatives who back the removal of age of consent laws.

Conservatives who back same sex marriage are like conservatives who back mandatory community service for school children.

Conservatives who back same sex marriage are like conservatives who back abortion.

19 posted on 09/06/2010 10:26:57 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: wizwor

“If, on the other hand, gay marriage is making life easier for two (or ten) people, then I don’t care.”

If the government takes someone’s property without compensating them, I really don’t care. It doesn’t affect me. If they take away my neighbor because he is Jewish, why do I care? I’m not Jewish.


20 posted on 09/06/2010 10:27:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: LonelyCon

President Obama has been very consistent on this issue, he’s opposed to gay marriage. It’s one of the few things he has been consistent on, even when it hurts him politically.

Hard to judge motives, but I would have thought he would haved caved in by now on the gay marriage issue if he didn’t really believe it.


21 posted on 09/06/2010 10:29:04 AM PDT by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: LonelyCon
Give it up WND!

There are lots of us who consider homosexuality an abomination, but we just don't want to execute everyone who engages in sodomy.

ML/NJ

22 posted on 09/06/2010 10:32:45 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Lorianne

Obama IS a sodomite, and he does not wish to be Outed, so he, like most of them, puts on the veneer.


23 posted on 09/06/2010 10:32:50 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: ml/nj

You would prefer to sit back, do and say nothing, and wait for them to kill you first?


24 posted on 09/06/2010 10:34:15 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: ml/nj
There are lots of us who consider homosexuality an abomination, but we just don't want to execute everyone who engages in sodomy.

There is a big difference between opposing gay marriage and wanting to execute those who engage in sodomy. Enough with the hyperbole.
25 posted on 09/06/2010 10:34:46 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: RachelFaith

Anything is possible.

But even if true, Obama has been very consistently and publically against gay marriage ... moreso than many so-called conservatives.

Like I said, I don’t know his motives, whether it’s a political calculation or he really is against it. Either way, he’s been PUBLICALLY willing to go against it.


26 posted on 09/06/2010 10:36:20 AM PDT by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: LonelyCon

Establishment Republicans are, in too large a measure, part of the Political Class mentioned by Rasmussen in his polling.

They, like the Democrats we all despise, occasionally presume to tell us what we believe, or ought to believe.

Economically, they are the reason for the Tea Party’s existence.

Behaviorally, we face a long, hard struggle to replace this Political Class with a group who will listen to the will of the people, expressed at last count in 39 states that have voted against legalizing homosexual ‘marriage’.


27 posted on 09/06/2010 10:37:21 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: Lorianne

Yes, he has. Unless you count his efforts to end the don’t ask in the Military. Then he is farther to the left than anyone in history on this issue. Guess his stance depends on the venue.


28 posted on 09/06/2010 10:38:43 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: RachelFaith

There are other passages that describes the Holy Spirit ceasing to strive with folks when they continued to reject Jesus Christ, no matter what primary sin they were into. I think that passage of scripture describes the effect of what rejection of God ultimately can lead to including homosexuality. It doesn’t state that homosexuality itself leads to reprobation, it states that continued rejection of God and revolting against his grace gets you given over “to a reprobate mind” leading to such lifestyles.

Rebel against God and his light and you risk a darkened consciousness, much given over to unnatural lusts almost beastlike in nature. Look at the story of Nebuchednezzar for one such story. Homosexuality isn’t the only “bad end” that can occur when one rejects God but it is a most demostrative one in which the pronounced effects of a consciousness fully at odds with God can be clearly observed!


29 posted on 09/06/2010 10:44:49 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: mdmathis6
Lots of Freepers say the same as you and they are not being banned or Kicked off or warned. The moderators don’t want us being uncivil to one another that’s all. Homosexuality is an abomination...and there will be none that continued to practise such in their lives allowed into heaven! If the moderators are banning this then Free Republic has become corrupted. But I don’t think we’re there yet!

No. I am now saying the maximum I am allowed to say. I once said much more direct, yet not directed "AT" anyone. There are words which are NOT allowed. And words define things. Once words are removed from the vocabulary the very nature of the debate is changed. We are losing. Lo, we HAVE lost.

And mark my words. This forum will embrace it and it will be no longer "free" to even discuss it, before we can celebrate it's next double anniversary.

There are many here who are not only enablers but PRACTITIONERS. And like all practitioners, seek to be above condemnation for their deeds.

It used to be said "10%" were "gay". Before the next decade ends, that number WILL BE ABOVE 25% if not a majority.

I graduated from College just a few years ago, and the number of people who "tried" it... had an "experience" or two, at a PRIVATE University, is at least 1 in 5. It is the "new" trying drugs, or trying normal sex. The just this side of Taboo but no big deal.

You cannot undo that kind of learning. I know of only one guy who "hated it" so badly, that he ran 180 degrees and back to Church and Christ! To most it was just "silly" and didn't mean anything. Some, found they LIKED it and just say they are now "Bi" but mostly "Hetro". This is what the next generation is growing up with.

Those of you old timers, who grew up when you called some poor kid a name and mocked him in School, even if he wasn't really gay, that generation is gone. That understanding is gone. You have no idea how many GAY CLUBS are in the Middle Schools and Grade Schools today. Nor, how many gay teachers and admins nurture and recruit for them.

This is beyond infestation. This is beyond plague. This is the end of the world. 2 seconds to midnight.

30 posted on 09/06/2010 10:50:20 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: RachelFaith
You would prefer to sit back, do and say nothing, and wait for them to kill you first?

The queers I know are not the least bit violent. What are you talking about?

ML/NJ

31 posted on 09/06/2010 10:50:28 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: mdmathis6

I’d like to see those “other” examples. Truly.


32 posted on 09/06/2010 10:51:32 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: LonelyCon

Every 10 seconds spent thinking about this, is 10 seconds of respite for the people guilty of economic policies that are incompatible with the Constitution.


33 posted on 09/06/2010 10:53:22 AM PDT by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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To: fr_freak
Enough with the hyperbole.

Maybe you should direct your comment to WND which seems to equate speaking to or with homosexuals, with sleeping with them.

ML/NJ

34 posted on 09/06/2010 10:54:41 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
There are lots of us who consider homosexuality an abomination, but we just don't want to execute everyone who engages in sodomy.

Welcome to Free Republic, Mark Moreford.

You will find that we breeders to not hate you near as much as you have always thought we did. Unless you get in our face and demand things, we don't think about you at all.

You are having a Ugarte moment.

You despise me don't you Rick?
Well if I gave you any thought I probably would.

35 posted on 09/06/2010 11:02:50 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: RachelFaith; Admin Moderator

Well the moderators don’t like the curse words or slang terms...though the term “gay”, Lesbian or homosexual seem to be allowed. Then again such terms as the moderators would ban are also banned in even the most conservative churches. We don’t need to use slang terms in a provacative way to get our messages across. Just speaking the truth with the malice of doves will get us ridiculed or even killed in some venues. The resurrection of Jesus is a stumbling block to some and foolishness to others. What say you admin moderators?


36 posted on 09/06/2010 11:03:25 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: ml/nj
Maybe you should direct your comment to WND which seems to equate speaking to or with homosexuals, with sleeping with them.

No thanks. I'll stick to pointing out ridiculous hyperbole to the people I see use it.
37 posted on 09/06/2010 11:04:20 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: mkjessup

Yep. What you said.


38 posted on 09/06/2010 11:05:44 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: LonelyCon

Let’s go down the list:

Glenn Beck made a curiously uninformed statement about it...he said, to paraphrase, if the gays who want to marry aren’t coming to get us (believers in traditional marriage), I don’t really care that much about the issue. A FReeper answered, they are coming to get your children. Beck acts like an ignoramus on this matter...someone needs to help him.

One more thing: Beck is almost a libertarian. Not all the way, but almost. Calling him conservative doesn’t tell the story.

Dick Cheney is personally compromised on the issue because of his daughter and now even having grandchildren by his gay daughter being artificially inseminated. Not excusing his stance, just illuminating it.

Laura Bush has never claimed to be a conservative.

Ted Olson has made a ton of money for this advocacy. He is one of the best ever and his services come very, very high. Also, did he not remarry a leftist? I think I read so. Correct me if I’m wrong on that.


39 posted on 09/06/2010 11:07:08 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: LonelyCon
I don't consider that to be a list of conservative leadership.

As far as I know, Glenn Beck has never endorsed gay marriage.

Anyone looking to Elizabeth Hasselbeck for political leadership cannot be considered part of the conservative base.

Laura Bush. Lovely woman, but has distanced herself from mainstream conservatism. As far as I can tell, she has little actual party influence.

Everyone assumed Ted Olson was a conservative based on some of his past work and who he was married to. It turns out, he is a lawyer.

For most of his life in government service Dick Cheney never had much of an ideology. Of the WND list, He is as close to Republican Party leadership supporting gay marriage as they get. And he dutifully supported the party position, even when he didn't endorse it.

I'm still not seeing Republican Party endorsing gay marriage.

40 posted on 09/06/2010 11:10:14 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: mdmathis6

I tell you what I say.

We are at war and in danger of losing this nation or we are not.

We can sustain this debt, ignore the Muslims and engage in every debauchery known and yet unknown or we cannot.

If not, then fine, this is a lovely little cafe message board where we can all be chummy and politely discuss the various difference of opinion, knowing, safely, surely, that in the end, it truly makes no difference which path we take.

OR...

We can LIE. That’s right. We can know that it is war. We can know the very heart and soul of the nation hangs in the balance and we can pussy foot around the topics, and discuss the sinking of the Titanic as gentlemen (and ladies).

OR...

We have wage holy war with no hold barred relentless, uncompromising, to the bitter end and die with our boots on!

Obviously, I stand much alone in the later cause.

Most seem well content to the middle of the road option.

And quite too many seem to prefer the illusion of the first.

I don’t really know what most of you are thinking, but as for me... Liberty or Death!

And sadly, Liberty is no longer even an option.

Those most are so stuck in the middle they are loath to admit how far along we truly are in this loss.


41 posted on 09/06/2010 11:11:16 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: LonelyCon

“Okay, so here’s my worry: It seems like every day another Republican or so-called conservative says they’re now for gay “marriage”. ....... It’s always the right caving in to the pro-gay side. How will this trend ever be reversed? “

It won’t be reversed if we keep electing dunderheads like McCain just because the liars have an “r” beside their names.

Aug. 11, 2010

John McCain Again Turns to Homosexual Mark Buse to Lead Re-Election Campaign
http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/08/11/john-mccain-again-turns-to-homosexual-mark-buse-to-lead-re-election-campaign/

McCain has a long history of flip-flopping on gay marriage
Yet veers to left in Senate reelection campaign by hiring homosexual lobbyist to run campaign

Looks like John McCain is veering back to the left already on gay marriage, having hired an openly gay lobbyist to manage his campaign, Mark Buse. This is more in line with his wife and daughter’s views, who openly opposed California’s Prop. 8 ballot initiative which stated that marriage is between a man and woman. Cindy McCain has a photo of her opposing that initiative as her Twitter profile picture, and both women have campaigned against it. It is clear McCain doesn’t want the Christian conservative vote.[snip]

Lobbyist Hired by Freddie Mac to Work on McCain Is Now Senator’s Aide (Buse)

[snips]”Senator McCain was talking about limiting executive compensation, and Buse was retained to nip that in the bud,” said a former lobbyist who insisted on anonymity because of continuing relationships with the companies.

Buse was nicknamed “The Ferret” because he helped his boss, McCain, find pork-barrel provisions buried in legislation. McCain has said he considered Buse to be like a son.

Buse left the commerce committee staff to lobby, signing on clients as diverse as oil giant Exxon Mobil, Wall Street firm Goldman Sachs and the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, according to the government records. He also represented telecommunications clients affected by the committee.

Buse returned to McCain’s office this year as chief of staff.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/02/AR2008100203812_2.html?sid=ST2008100300009


42 posted on 09/06/2010 11:11:55 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: LonelyCon
There was a time on the FR when such a thread would bring out argument and ongoing debate. No more. It's just a cue for everyone to come out and agree.

A few years ago, some posters took over the argument and ran everyone who disgreed with them off the threads and the site. Then the owner came out and agreed with them with his declaration against "homosexualism." Many good conservative people have been banned or left because if they disagreed with any one point, they were called pro-agenda, anti-FR, and worse. We lost a lot of discussion when that happened. But that's the way it is September 6, 2010..............

43 posted on 09/06/2010 11:15:06 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: RachelFaith

“Seek the Lord while He may be found; call upon Him while He is near. Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return to the Lord, and He will have compassion on him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon” (Isaiah 55:6).

There is a time when the Lord calls upon individuals, if they cease to respond, he leaves them in their wickedness.


44 posted on 09/06/2010 11:15:06 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: LonelyCon

One who backs same-sex marriage is not a conservative because he wishes to make one of the most basic alterations of society that there is. That is the antithesis of Conservatism.


45 posted on 09/06/2010 11:19:36 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: LonelyCon
"Conservatism and gay rights are actually natural allies. Conservatism rightly seeks to keep the government out of our private lives, and when you strip away the politics of pop culture, it's this assertion of privacy and freedom that the gay rights movement is essentially making."

If gay marriage ever obtains the official sanction and approval of the federal government, the private lives and personal beliefs of religious conservatives WILL be the central focus of some of the most aggressive and unrelenting governmental coercion ever carried out by the federal government against its own citizens.

Count on it.

46 posted on 09/06/2010 11:19:52 AM PDT by behzinlea
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To: LonelyCon
It's a very strange world when Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton are against gay marriage and Dick Cheney and Laura Bush are for it.

Very, very, VERY strange.

47 posted on 09/06/2010 11:21:02 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: wizwor

It is NOT a slippery slope. It is a jagged rock near the bottom of that slope.


48 posted on 09/06/2010 11:22:00 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: mdmathis6

I would be cautious about using an Old Testament passage to apply to the post Grace age. But, that is my Dispensationism speaking.

In Romans, speaking to Sodomy and Lesbianism directly, Paul says in clear terms, that they were given up “Because” of their vile affections.

Cause and effect.

No other place is such a direct statement made regarding any specific sin.

Lots of generalities, lots of repent and you are OK stuff. One very specific, very direct here.

Again, most of the Sodomites and their enablers like to go to the Old testament and ask “should we stone someone who steals bread too”.

Because they do not and are not able to address this passage in Romans.

The Holy Spirit put that one in here to make it plain to us, when we had crossed the point of no return.

We are about to do so.

I predict we will.

Then this debate will no longer even be allowed.


49 posted on 09/06/2010 11:24:14 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: LonelyCon
... conservatives who back same-sex marriage

Just what is it that they are pretending to "conserve"?

50 posted on 09/06/2010 11:24:32 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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