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Open letter to conservatives who back same-sex marriage
WND ^ | September 6, 2010 | David Kupelain

Posted on 09/06/2010 9:57:15 AM PDT by LonelyCon

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To: DJ MacWoW; humblegunner

At least he knew what the heck I was babbling about with that song.


101 posted on 09/06/2010 1:08:18 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare; humblegunner

Yes and you’re a brat for starting it. I HATE that song. And the ones you hate always stick and reverberate!


102 posted on 09/06/2010 1:11:16 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You’re a meanie!

Pretty much, yep. ;-)

103 posted on 09/06/2010 1:11:32 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: DJ MacWoW; humblegunner

Could be worse, could have been “Come to my Window” instead.


104 posted on 09/06/2010 1:12:06 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Darksheare
I HATE that song.

Don't you, Don't you, Don't you, Don't you?

105 posted on 09/06/2010 1:12:51 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: humblegunner

LOL!!!


106 posted on 09/06/2010 1:14:22 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: humblegunner; DJ MacWoW

I always thought the song was skipping at that point.


107 posted on 09/06/2010 1:23:22 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: cammie
Dittow, wizwor, although I do think gays should be able to adopt. I have several gay friends who are doing a spectacular job raising adopted children, and one couple went out of their way to adopt special needs children.

I would be very interested to hear the basis of your judgment that your homosexual friends are doing a "spectacular job" raising their adopted children. By the way, are these actually your friends, or are they merely acquaintances in your neighborhood who "seem" to be nice people? Have you seen what goes on behind closed doors - or, heaven forbid, have you allowed yourself to be misled by the superficial outward appearances we are all so skilled at presenting?

More to the point, have you engaged in any objective evaluation of the children? Perhaps you have accepted prima facie some glowing news reports about homosexual parenting, and are assuming that your friends/acquaintences must be doing a "spectacular" job.

You may perhaps be unaware that such studies typically rely upon the self-reporting of the homosexual parents (in essence, asking those who very likely have an agenda of presenting homosexual parenting in the best positive light to rate their own parenting skills).

Have you asked the children how they feel about being intentionally deprived of either a mother or a father? As someone who has researched in and written on this subject, it is heartbreaking to read about comments made by these precious children indicating that they are longing for their missing opposite-sex parent.

And I am deeply offended by the callous response of their "daddies" or "mommies," who treat as a joke the child's heartfelt wondering about when they are getting their own mommy or daddy (curiously, there is no evidence that these children have been "indoctrinated" by "intolerant" pro-family activists...)

Sadly, it seems that in the rush to grant full societal affirmation to a lifestyle that almost all cultures have deemed to be inimical to the institution of marriage and the family, no one is listening to the children.

108 posted on 09/06/2010 1:27:21 PM PDT by tjd1454
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To: Darksheare

STOP!


109 posted on 09/06/2010 1:44:32 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tjd1454

Excellent post.


110 posted on 09/06/2010 1:45:41 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Okers.
Sorry about getting songs stuck in your head.
;-)


111 posted on 09/06/2010 1:46:26 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: RachelFaith

The world that Paul was preaching to was filled with homosexuals, idol worshippers, murderers, alduterers, thieves, gossipers,slanderers, practitioners of witchcraft ect, all of whom already given over to “a reprobate state”. It was the world of the Roman empire, a darkened world given to the very darkened imagination as described in Romans 1. Paul was describing the world he was to preach to and he goes on in the rest of Romans to prescribe the cure, which was of course Jesus Christ. Christ came to save sinners including homosexuals, not leave them in their reprobate state. You have to read the whole of Romans in order to understand Chapter 1’s context!


112 posted on 09/06/2010 1:57:44 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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To: trisham

Which parts are not in agreement?


113 posted on 09/06/2010 2:03:00 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911

The ones that are in bold print.


114 posted on 09/06/2010 2:04:07 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

It looks like you spotted a troll.


115 posted on 09/06/2010 2:07:26 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: trisham

The information in my bio and the post here are not mutually exclusive. The events described do not preclude me from having such knowledge. I beliebve your comment is based upon incorrect logic in which you relied upon a perceived connection that may not, nor need not, be true for my comments to be truithful and non-contradictory.


116 posted on 09/06/2010 2:09:25 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: wagglebee

Could be.


117 posted on 09/06/2010 2:09:36 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Darksheare

:)


118 posted on 09/06/2010 2:10:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: whence911

If you had been here “a few years ago”, you would not now be “learning the ropes”.


119 posted on 09/06/2010 2:13:49 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: whence911; trisham; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; scripter; metmom; DirtyHarryY2K; BykrBayb; ...
There was a time on the FR when such a thread would bring out argument and ongoing debate.

Really troll? When was it that Free Republic "debated" the validity of the far left agenda.

A few years ago, some posters took over the argument and ran everyone who disgreed with them off the threads and the site.

Hey troll, you joined FOUR MONTHS AGO. What are you previous names here?

Then the owner came out and agreed with them with his declaration against "homosexualism."

Are you trying to suggest that Jim once SUPPORTED the homosexual agenda?

Many good conservative people have been banned or left because if they disagreed with any one point, they were called pro-agenda, anti-FR, and worse.

Name one.

120 posted on 09/06/2010 2:14:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: cammie; All
Once upon a time, marrying someone of a different race was considered to be an actionable crime... Once upon a time women were considered property...

And neither of those actions were in conflict with the biological design specifications of the human race.

So let's get this straight (no pun intended) cammie, are you in favor of peter puffers and/or lickety-splitters getting hitched to other members of their preferred perversion? Don't (ahem) 'beat around the bush', just tell us where you stand.
121 posted on 09/06/2010 2:17:18 PM PDT by mkjessup ("Wait by the river and your enemies will float by" - old Japanese proverb, and I'm waitin'.)
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To: wagglebee; whence911

“Many good conservative people have been banned or left because if they disagreed with any one point, they were called pro-agenda, anti-FR, and worse.”

Yes, I’m most curious about which poster this one was.


122 posted on 09/06/2010 2:17:34 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: RachelFaith

***BUMP***!!

Well said FRiend, and absolutely true and correct.


123 posted on 09/06/2010 2:18:31 PM PDT by mkjessup ("Wait by the river and your enemies will float by" - old Japanese proverb, and I'm waitin'.)
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To: wagglebee
Thanx for proving my original point. I have engaged you before and I wasn't a troll then. What happened? Am I now not a conservative because I stated something about the development of this issue on the FR? Do you think past posters who were good people and were life-long conservatives were promoting the liberal agenda? When did you take over for William F. Buckley

My uncle used to post here and he warned me that people like you had taken over and so I stay of of these threads. By your calling on others to help you I see that you are also a coward.

If you think I'm a troll read my comments and take a deep breath.

124 posted on 09/06/2010 2:20:33 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911

So who were you?


125 posted on 09/06/2010 2:21:01 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: whence911; trisham; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; scripter; metmom; DirtyHarryY2K; BykrBayb; ...
The information in my bio and the post here are not mutually exclusive. The events described do not preclude me from having such knowledge.

You are a LYING TROLL.

Here is what your FR homepage says:

From a web search got Arizona immigration bill stories here. Liked what I saw and signed up.

This indicates that you had NO KNOWLEDGE of FR prior to the Arizona immigration law a few months ago.

126 posted on 09/06/2010 2:21:03 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; whence911; trisham; BykrBayb; little jeremiah
There was a time on the FR when such a thread would bring out argument and ongoing debate.

whence911
Since Apr 27, 2010

There was such a time?

And how does this newb know this?

Don't tell me, he lurked for YEARS before deciding to take the plunge and sign up.

Yeah,......

right......

127 posted on 09/06/2010 2:22:08 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: whence911; wagglebee; trisham; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; scripter; metmom; DirtyHarryY2K; ...
My uncle used to post here and he warned me that people like you had taken over and so I stay of of these threads.

IBTZ

128 posted on 09/06/2010 2:23:15 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: whence911; wagglebee; 50mm; Old Sarge; darkwing104

This noob knows an awful lot about FR’s past.

I wonder how......

IBTZ


129 posted on 09/06/2010 2:23:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: whence911; Jim Robinson
A few years ago, some posters took over the argument and ran everyone who disgreed with them off the threads and the site. Then the owner came out and agreed with them with his declaration against "homosexualism."

Statement by the founder of Free Republic March 22, 2004

I posted the following statement to our front page in response to the criticism I'm receiving lately as to not being fair and balanced and perceived mistreatment of trolls and assorted malcontents. Got news for all, I'm NOT fair and balanced. I'm biased toward God, country, family, liberty and freedom and against liberalism, socialism, anarchism, wackoism, global balonyism and any other form of tyranny. Hope this helps.

130 posted on 09/06/2010 2:23:47 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: whence911; trisham; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; scripter; metmom; DirtyHarryY2K; BykrBayb; ...
Thanx for proving my original point. I have engaged you before and I wasn't a troll then.

Oh, what was your name then.

My uncle used to post here and he warned me that people like you had taken over and so I stay of of these threads.

What was this troll's name?

If you think I'm a troll read my comments and take a deep breath.

Yep, I'll probably be smelling ozone soon.

131 posted on 09/06/2010 2:24:03 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

When I signed up, my uncle warned me not to do it and explained what he went through speaking up for freedom. But I like the sight, except for you.


132 posted on 09/06/2010 2:24:06 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911

First you were here before, next it was your uncle?
Make up your mind please.


133 posted on 09/06/2010 2:24:38 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: wagglebee

I am talking about MY posts since I signed up. You sure are hungry for a fight. You agreed with me before on other threads and now I’m a LYING TROLL> What’s your problem?


134 posted on 09/06/2010 2:25:39 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911; trisham; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; scripter; metmom; DirtyHarryY2K; BykrBayb; ...
When I signed up, my uncle warned me not to do it and explained what he went through speaking up for freedom.

Destruction of America's Judeo-Christian culture IS NOT freedom.

135 posted on 09/06/2010 2:26:02 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: whence911; wagglebee; 50mm; darkwing104; Old Sarge; Admin Moderator
From whence's homepage.....

From a web search got Arizona immigration bill stories here. Liked what I saw and signed up.

More as I learn the ropes. I chose my name to say that we are forgettintg the lessons of 9/11 and are in danger of being too slack with the fanatics because the president wants to hold hands.

Immigration bill controversy has just been within the last few months

From this post:

There was a time on the FR when such a thread would bring out argument and ongoing debate. No more. It's just a cue for everyone to come out and agree.

A few years ago, some posters took over the argument and ran everyone who disgreed with them off the threads and the site. Then the owner came out and agreed with them with his declaration against "homosexualism." Many good conservative people have been banned or left because if they disagreed with any one point, they were called pro-agenda, anti-FR, and worse. We lost a lot of discussion when that happened. But that's the way it is September 6, 2010..............

Perhaps the noob could explain how he's so familiar with FR's history when he claims he just found the website do to a recent controversy.

Oops, you slipped.....

136 posted on 09/06/2010 2:28:35 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: whence911; Jim Robinson
Post 93 by Jim Robinson

FR is a conservative site. We do not appreciate our members fighting against us on our conservative values and issues. If you wish to support homosexual marriage or homosexuals in the military or hate crimes against us for speaking out against government promotion of homosexuality that’s your business, but you’d better do it somewhere else and not on FR. If you value your posting privileges, that is. FR is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-marriage, pro-military, pro-traditional American conservatism and it is a privilege to post here. Those who support the godless liberal/Marxist destruction of our free society and our country are free to exercise their free speech rights elsewhere. I won’t stand in your way.

137 posted on 09/06/2010 2:29:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Darksheare

?????


138 posted on 09/06/2010 2:29:23 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911

You are lying.....


139 posted on 09/06/2010 2:30:28 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I have read all of that. I did not take a position. I am aware that if tou disageree with the owner you will be booted. I stated what had happened to this issue here before. You vets can run me out of here if you like. If that’s all it takes than so be it.


140 posted on 09/06/2010 2:31:48 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911

So who were you before?


141 posted on 09/06/2010 2:31:48 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: whence911; trisham; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; scripter; metmom; DirtyHarryY2K; BykrBayb; ...
You agreed with me before on other threads and now I’m a LYING TROLL

Well, I found this interaction where I can assure you that I DID NOT agree with you:

This Just In: Civilization Ends

To: wagglebee

I can give you the names of two hospitals in soCal, from personal experience, who do not allow non-family members into ICU patient rooms.

51 posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:36:40 PM by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
 
To: whence911; wmfights; xzins; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Kolokotronis; Forest Keeper
I can give you the names of two hospitals in soCal, from personal experience, who do not allow non-family members into ICU patient rooms.

And are you certain that this extends to unmarried "partners"?

54 posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:44:47 PM by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
 
To: wagglebee

I’m not certain of anything except what the nurse told me. If you really need verification, I suggest you call around.

59 posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:06:46 PM by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)

142 posted on 09/06/2010 2:32:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: whence911; wagglebee
Let me be the first...


143 posted on 09/06/2010 2:33:58 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

If correcting your error is disagreeing than I was cetrainly guilty. Do you have the entire collection of our exchanges or just those in which I provided you information you did not already have?


144 posted on 09/06/2010 2:34:03 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: trisham

Good catch.


145 posted on 09/06/2010 2:34:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Ooooooh!


146 posted on 09/06/2010 2:34:57 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911

What error?
You claimed to know from personal experience, then said that you’re not certain except for what a nurse told you.
That’s not personal experience.


147 posted on 09/06/2010 2:35:14 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: whence911; trisham; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; scripter; metmom; DirtyHarryY2K; BykrBayb; ...
If correcting your error is disagreeing than I was cetrainly guilty.

You didn't correct an error, you repeated a homosexual talking point and provided no proof that it was valid.

Do you have the entire collection of our exchanges or just those in which I provided you information you did not already have?

Troll, YOU are the one that said I agreed with you, that makes it YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to verify it.

148 posted on 09/06/2010 2:36:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: whence911

zot


149 posted on 09/06/2010 2:37:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: metmom

I’ve never seen so many pro-homosexual agenda trolls in my life.


150 posted on 09/06/2010 2:38:29 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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