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Okay, so here's my worry: It seems like every day another Republican or so-called conservative says they're now for gay "marriage". It only seems to go one way. I cannot think of one high-profile Democrat or liberal who has ever said something along the lines of, "You know what, I've thought carefully about the issue and come to the conclusion that the world is changing, I was wrong, and I now believe marriage should only be between a man and a woman." It's always the right caving in to the pro-gay side. How will this trend ever be reversed?
1 posted on 09/06/2010 9:57:17 AM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon

Has it ever occurred to you that you are hearing only what the MSM wants you to hear?


2 posted on 09/06/2010 10:01:17 AM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: LonelyCon

Holy Rattling H - E Double Hockey Sticks!!

I think the Rapture has already happened.

Armageddon can’t be far off. As it was in the days of Noah.....

Disgust. Revulsion. Horror. Sickening. Ghastly.


4 posted on 09/06/2010 10:02:40 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: LonelyCon

Listen up.

It will not be stopped.

It cannot be stopped.

We have so dumbed down the people that they are incapable of understanding what are the causes of our coming collapse.

Simply put: Self government, requires self control. A people unwilling to self regulate their passions and lusts will soon there after be unable to control their spending, their education, and eventually their own self defense.

It is not that Homosexuality causes these things. It is very simply that the open acceptance of homosexuality is the very last “Bridge Out Ahead” sign on the highway to hell.

We are about to pass it. Once we do, momentum will take us over the end of the bridge and to our fiery death below.

Like the joke says. It’s not the fall that kills you. It’s the sudden stop at the end.

So please, no “you are just giving up” or “You are helping the sodomites win”. Please, I nearly got banned for calling these wicked abominations what they are and by direct order, I am not allowed to use such words. So know, I am as opposed as any can be. But we HAVE lost.

It’s over. Deal with it now while you are still free to do so. Deal with it while we can still have a somewhat free debate here. The day is coming and coming so fast, when even your church will not be able to say the very Word of God without being closed, arrested, sued, or killed.

Teach your children how to live for Christ in a soviet styled nation. It is coming and it is already within our own house as we sleep!

When I say deal with it, I mean as if you were just woken by the sounds of men in you home and about to open the bedroom door in seconds and you have NO weapons able to stop them.

What do you do?

Prepare!!


6 posted on 09/06/2010 10:09:45 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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I consider myself socially conservative and do not think churches should be forced to participate in or sanctions that are inconsistent with their beliefs.

If that’s what gay marriage is, then I’m against it. If, on the other hand, gay marriage is making life easier for two (or ten) people, then I don’t care.

The issue has become so political that the obvious solution — get government out of the pews — is not an option.

I understand the ‘slippery slope’ theory and appreciate that this could become a stepping stone to adoption rights and other things I don’t think are good for society, but put a gay marriage/pro life on the ballot with a defense of marriage/pro choice candidate and it’s a no brainer for me.


7 posted on 09/06/2010 10:12:51 AM PDT by wizwor (http://danvilledelivery.wordpress.com/)
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Once upon a time, homosexuality was considered a mental disorder, to be so afflicted would automatically disqualify someone from obtaining a security clearance, or to be allowed to teach children, and it would get that person dishonorably discharged from the military with no ifs, ands or buts. I have seen nothing to suggest that those (and other) prohibitions on homosexuals were unwarranted.

Human behavior may change, but the laws of nature do NOT change, nor does the Word of God, which states that such behavior is an abomination.
8 posted on 09/06/2010 10:14:47 AM PDT by mkjessup ("Wait by the river and your enemies will float by" - old Japanese proverb, and I'm waitin'.)
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MO ... they caved to the power of satan.

Evil is evil. Sin in sin.

9 posted on 09/06/2010 10:15:21 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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Two words.

Sodom

Gomorrah

‘nuf said!


10 posted on 09/06/2010 10:16:47 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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bttt


11 posted on 09/06/2010 10:16:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm on vacation. Posts, if any, will probably be silly. You been warned! Fins up!)
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We are in a period of tyranny of the minority and have been for years now. Much evil (abortion) has been made okay.

God help us in our day.

God allows men to do evil and go his own way, and there are consequences.


14 posted on 09/06/2010 10:19:43 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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All that the GOP has to do to win big in November is keep its mouth shut. Every time that these so-called leaders in the Conservative and Libertarian parties opens their mouths, they lose votes. Why create division when it is not needed? There are enough things that divide us as it is.
17 posted on 09/06/2010 10:22:43 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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Conservatives who back same sex marriage are like conservatives who back subsidized government medical care.

Conservatives who back same sex marriage are like conservatives who back the removal of age of consent laws.

Conservatives who back same sex marriage are like conservatives who back mandatory community service for school children.

Conservatives who back same sex marriage are like conservatives who back abortion.

19 posted on 09/06/2010 10:26:57 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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President Obama has been very consistent on this issue, he’s opposed to gay marriage. It’s one of the few things he has been consistent on, even when it hurts him politically.

Hard to judge motives, but I would have thought he would haved caved in by now on the gay marriage issue if he didn’t really believe it.


21 posted on 09/06/2010 10:29:04 AM PDT by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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Give it up WND!

There are lots of us who consider homosexuality an abomination, but we just don't want to execute everyone who engages in sodomy.

ML/NJ

22 posted on 09/06/2010 10:32:45 AM PDT by ml/nj
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Establishment Republicans are, in too large a measure, part of the Political Class mentioned by Rasmussen in his polling.

They, like the Democrats we all despise, occasionally presume to tell us what we believe, or ought to believe.

Economically, they are the reason for the Tea Party’s existence.

Behaviorally, we face a long, hard struggle to replace this Political Class with a group who will listen to the will of the people, expressed at last count in 39 states that have voted against legalizing homosexual ‘marriage’.


27 posted on 09/06/2010 10:37:21 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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Every 10 seconds spent thinking about this, is 10 seconds of respite for the people guilty of economic policies that are incompatible with the Constitution.


33 posted on 09/06/2010 10:53:22 AM PDT by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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Let’s go down the list:

Glenn Beck made a curiously uninformed statement about it...he said, to paraphrase, if the gays who want to marry aren’t coming to get us (believers in traditional marriage), I don’t really care that much about the issue. A FReeper answered, they are coming to get your children. Beck acts like an ignoramus on this matter...someone needs to help him.

One more thing: Beck is almost a libertarian. Not all the way, but almost. Calling him conservative doesn’t tell the story.

Dick Cheney is personally compromised on the issue because of his daughter and now even having grandchildren by his gay daughter being artificially inseminated. Not excusing his stance, just illuminating it.

Laura Bush has never claimed to be a conservative.

Ted Olson has made a ton of money for this advocacy. He is one of the best ever and his services come very, very high. Also, did he not remarry a leftist? I think I read so. Correct me if I’m wrong on that.


39 posted on 09/06/2010 11:07:08 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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I don't consider that to be a list of conservative leadership.

As far as I know, Glenn Beck has never endorsed gay marriage.

Anyone looking to Elizabeth Hasselbeck for political leadership cannot be considered part of the conservative base.

Laura Bush. Lovely woman, but has distanced herself from mainstream conservatism. As far as I can tell, she has little actual party influence.

Everyone assumed Ted Olson was a conservative based on some of his past work and who he was married to. It turns out, he is a lawyer.

For most of his life in government service Dick Cheney never had much of an ideology. Of the WND list, He is as close to Republican Party leadership supporting gay marriage as they get. And he dutifully supported the party position, even when he didn't endorse it.

I'm still not seeing Republican Party endorsing gay marriage.

40 posted on 09/06/2010 11:10:14 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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“Okay, so here’s my worry: It seems like every day another Republican or so-called conservative says they’re now for gay “marriage”. ....... It’s always the right caving in to the pro-gay side. How will this trend ever be reversed? “

It won’t be reversed if we keep electing dunderheads like McCain just because the liars have an “r” beside their names.

Aug. 11, 2010

John McCain Again Turns to Homosexual Mark Buse to Lead Re-Election Campaign
http://sonoranalliance.com/2010/08/11/john-mccain-again-turns-to-homosexual-mark-buse-to-lead-re-election-campaign/

McCain has a long history of flip-flopping on gay marriage
Yet veers to left in Senate reelection campaign by hiring homosexual lobbyist to run campaign

Looks like John McCain is veering back to the left already on gay marriage, having hired an openly gay lobbyist to manage his campaign, Mark Buse. This is more in line with his wife and daughter’s views, who openly opposed California’s Prop. 8 ballot initiative which stated that marriage is between a man and woman. Cindy McCain has a photo of her opposing that initiative as her Twitter profile picture, and both women have campaigned against it. It is clear McCain doesn’t want the Christian conservative vote.[snip]

Lobbyist Hired by Freddie Mac to Work on McCain Is Now Senator’s Aide (Buse)

[snips]”Senator McCain was talking about limiting executive compensation, and Buse was retained to nip that in the bud,” said a former lobbyist who insisted on anonymity because of continuing relationships with the companies.

Buse was nicknamed “The Ferret” because he helped his boss, McCain, find pork-barrel provisions buried in legislation. McCain has said he considered Buse to be like a son.

Buse left the commerce committee staff to lobby, signing on clients as diverse as oil giant Exxon Mobil, Wall Street firm Goldman Sachs and the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, according to the government records. He also represented telecommunications clients affected by the committee.

Buse returned to McCain’s office this year as chief of staff.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/02/AR2008100203812_2.html?sid=ST2008100300009


42 posted on 09/06/2010 11:11:55 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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There was a time on the FR when such a thread would bring out argument and ongoing debate. No more. It's just a cue for everyone to come out and agree.

A few years ago, some posters took over the argument and ran everyone who disgreed with them off the threads and the site. Then the owner came out and agreed with them with his declaration against "homosexualism." Many good conservative people have been banned or left because if they disagreed with any one point, they were called pro-agenda, anti-FR, and worse. We lost a lot of discussion when that happened. But that's the way it is September 6, 2010..............

43 posted on 09/06/2010 11:15:06 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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One who backs same-sex marriage is not a conservative because he wishes to make one of the most basic alterations of society that there is. That is the antithesis of Conservatism.


45 posted on 09/06/2010 11:19:36 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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