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Avion custom car travels 1400 miles on 12 gallons; Goodyear Fuel Max tires credited
www.examiner.com ^ | 9-4-2010 | Susan Walker

Posted on 09/07/2010 5:23:23 AM PDT by Red Badger

Craig Henderson of Bellingham, Washington, drove his custom-built Avion automobile from the US-Canada border to the US-Mexico border on a single tank of diesel fuel.

Akron-based Goodyear and Henderson report that the journey extended over 1400 miles, that Henderson managed to get 119.1 miles per gallon, and that his Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max tires played a significant role in his achievement. He used only 12.4 gallons of fuel on the trip from Blaine, Washington, on the Canadian border, to the Mexican border near Chula Vista, California. Henderson made stops for overnight lodging but did not refuel.

The lightweight, aerodynamic Avion has been around since 1984 and has set records in the past. The Avion uses an 800 cc diesel engine. Henderson built the original Avion with co-designer Bill Green; it has never been mass produced.

Henderson said, "The Avion has achieved 113 miles per gallon at 55-60 miles per hour in testing. For this journey, we averaged around 55 miles per hour and contended with regular traffic volumes. The Goodyear Fuel Max tires help provide the fuel savings we wanted, and with the confidence of knowing we will have excellent wet and dry traction."

Goodyear brand manager Razvan Bosomoiu points out that the Fuel Max tire is available in sizes that fit 80% of cars on the road today. Goodyear estimates that these tires deliver 4% fuel economy to buyers, saving 2,600 miles worth of fuel per set of tires.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Technical
KEYWORDS: auto; diesel; energy; fuel
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Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.....

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1 posted on 09/07/2010 5:23:25 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; sausageseller; ...

Beautiful diesel...............


2 posted on 09/07/2010 5:23:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: Red Badger

I’d hit it


3 posted on 09/07/2010 5:27:38 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: Red Badger

Heck, everyone knows it is all a down hill coast.


4 posted on 09/07/2010 5:32:56 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Red Badger

the car only costs 40 million dollars.


5 posted on 09/07/2010 5:33:17 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: dalebert

http://blogs.dieselpowermag.com/6708825/diesel-car-reviews/diesel-powered-avion-gets-117-mpg-on-goodyear-tires/index.html


6 posted on 09/07/2010 5:38:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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My 1995 Olds 98 gets 31 mpg on the highway.

That's good enough for me!

7 posted on 09/07/2010 5:38:34 AM PDT by mcmuffin (Keep your powder and tobacco dry)
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To: Red Badger
Info on the tires from "Tire Rack".

Not a lot of reviews but the UTQG rating of 580 to 620 means these tires are hard as rock.

8 posted on 09/07/2010 5:40:44 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Red Badger

Don’t want the 55mph limit.
Don’t want the road noise likely with high pressure, low resistance tires.


9 posted on 09/07/2010 5:41:02 AM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: Red Badger

Any word on those tires and the idea of wet traction?


10 posted on 09/07/2010 5:43:02 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Red Badger

Dig the John Deere roadster.


11 posted on 09/07/2010 5:43:10 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
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To: raybbr

We've come a long way to get to this level of technology...............

12 posted on 09/07/2010 5:43:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: wendy1946

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Assurance+Fuel+Max


13 posted on 09/07/2010 5:44:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: Red Badger
Fred set the record years ago.
14 posted on 09/07/2010 5:45:06 AM PDT by epithermal
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To: smokingfrog

You can plow the back forty in 6.049.....................


15 posted on 09/07/2010 5:45:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: raybbr

One review claimed their efficiency to be worse than Michelins.


16 posted on 09/07/2010 5:47:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Red Badger
Actually, there are three questions... To be safe to drive in the D.C. area you have to have wet traction and the ability to come off ramps at speed i.e. to go from 30 or so to about 65 in the 1/8'th of a mile or thereabouts which a ramp gives you for it. You have to be fast enough to get out of your own way in other words and it isn't obvious to me that anything other than a motorcycle with an 800cc engine could do that.

There's also the question of various federal mandates and whether or not anything meeting those mandates could be as light as one of these testframe cars.

17 posted on 09/07/2010 5:47:32 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Red Badger

The tire promises a 4% increase in mileage, not much really for cars getting 20 to 30 miles per gallon. I can over inflate my own tires and get the same result.


18 posted on 09/07/2010 5:47:50 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Red Badger

Sounds like somebody’s done the homework on the tires...


19 posted on 09/07/2010 5:50:34 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

It’s where the rubber meets the road..........


20 posted on 09/07/2010 5:51:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: Red Badger

Add me to you ping list- Thanks


21 posted on 09/07/2010 5:52:19 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Good (Real trucks don't have spark plugs!)
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To: Red Badger

Is that a Lotus super 7 or a Morgan Plus 8? (I think Lotus)


22 posted on 09/07/2010 5:59:41 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: Red Badger

119 MPG is awesome and nothing to sneeze at, but the article leaves a lot of questions.

It says they tested the car at 55-60 MPH and he ‘averaged’ 55 MPH on the trip. Does that mean total time (Stops included) or that he ran the car at 55 MPH even though the speed limit is 70? If so, what mileage does the car get at ACTUAL highway speeds? Can it even go that fast?

Allthe reviews of the Goodyear fuel max say they are basically “concrete” tires. If so, how does this car ride? Are you so beat up it is not worth it in any sense of the road? How much tire noise is there inside the car?

The Mileage is great, but if the car is overly underperforming and uncomfortable what’s the point in even owning one. (And yes I know this is a homemade test vehicle and not an actual production vehicle.)


23 posted on 09/07/2010 6:02:04 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Red Badger

I think it is pretty cool. It did not use any govt money as far as I can tell.


24 posted on 09/07/2010 6:06:32 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Red Badger

The Mobile economy run of the 60”s could get over 1300 MPG. My 79 Monza got 35 MPG and I did not do anything to it. I had a super tuned 58 chevy truck that I got 24 mpg uphill in the mountains once. I am not really impressed by all this progress.


25 posted on 09/07/2010 6:07:23 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: commish
I agree, it's impressive. It must be pretty lightweight though, and that has me wondering about crashworthiness and what it would feel like in high cross-winds. I'd hate to be going through Tornado Alley in something that would get blown off the road in the first good windstorm.

A few years ago I was driving to church one evening in January and saw a Class C camper coming towards me as a strong cross-wind hit us both. We were fine in our minivan, but the camper lurched to the right, jumped a ditch, and was plowing through a muddy cornfield as we passed. Somehow the guy kept control, and hopefully was able to keep going until he could turn back onto the road before sinking into the mud. Winds like that are common even here in Illinois.

26 posted on 09/07/2010 6:09:17 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/lydiablievernicht)
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To: WellyP

I think it’s a John Deere..........


27 posted on 09/07/2010 6:09:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: saganite

We purchased these tires in May of this year. There is no difference in gas mileage.


28 posted on 09/07/2010 6:12:28 AM PDT by All Blue State
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To: WellyP

No way a Morgan.

Either a Lotus OR a Canterham 7.

Vrooooooom!


29 posted on 09/07/2010 6:23:41 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm really not Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: Red Badger

For truly jaw dropping fuel economy get a converted motorcycle that uses a diesel engine, not a moped but a full sized cruiser or touring bike with a modernized high output diesel.

http://www.dieselbike.net/


30 posted on 09/07/2010 6:25:38 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: mountainlion
The Mobile economy run of the 60”s could get over 1300 MPG. My 79 Monza got 35 MPG and I did not do anything to it. I had a super tuned 58 chevy truck that I got 24 mpg uphill in the mountains once. I am not really impressed by all this progress.

One problem is, for the last several years, they've been making cars heavier. The Honda Civic, which once went for around 1800 pounds now weighs 2600 or so, almost that of a Ford Maverick. My 1983 Ford Ranger tipped the scales at around 3000 pounds. Today's Ranger is heavier, and can't touch the 30 mpg that I got out of that 4-speed 4-banger. In fact, if you opt for 4WD, you cannot unlock the front hubs so you're not only carrying 300 extra pounds, but even in 2-wd, you're turning the entire front drivetrain even if it is de-clutched inside the transfer case.

31 posted on 09/07/2010 6:37:45 AM PDT by meyer (Our own government has become our enemy,...)
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To: Leo Farnsworth

Sort of both:

Brunton Auto - Stalker - USA Made 7 Inspired Replicas
The Brunton Super Stalker is the highest performing 7 type car in the world with ... street and track machine, a kit car replica inspired by the Lotus 7. ...
www.bruntonauto.com/ - Cached - Similar


32 posted on 09/07/2010 6:44:07 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: Leo Farnsworth

Right!

It is probably a Lotus 7 clone, Caterham or other kit maker.

The colors are close to the Lotus team colors, from back in the days when you could tell the nationality of a Formula 1 car by the major color and the specfic team/manufacturer by the stripe(s) color.

Green - England/UK (British Racing Green) The yellow stripe was for Lotus
Blue - France
Red - Italy
Silver - Germany
White/Blue stripes - USA

This long before the proliferation of sponsor decals, let alone vinyl graphics, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_auto_racing_colors


33 posted on 09/07/2010 6:44:54 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Red Badger

“Regular Joes” built this? It looks fast but doesn’t sound like it really is. The important thing is—how many cup holders does it have?


34 posted on 09/07/2010 6:48:52 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Specs and inside pics:

http://blogs.dieselpowermag.com/6708825/diesel-car-reviews/diesel-powered-avion-gets-117-mpg-on-goodyear-tires/index.html


35 posted on 09/07/2010 6:51:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: smokingfrog

Nothing runs like a deer(e) and nothing smells like a john.:-)


36 posted on 09/07/2010 6:52:56 AM PDT by Rannug ("When you make peaceful protest impossible, you make violent protest inevitable." JFK)
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To: meyer
One problem is, for the last several years, they've been making cars heavier. The Honda Civic, which once went for around 1800 pounds now weighs 2600 or so

Why would they do that?

37 posted on 09/07/2010 7:02:20 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: meyer

My ‘04 Honda Accord sedan (4-cyl) weighs in around 3,400 lbs, which I consider pretty heavy, probably comparable to some pretty large full-size cars of 30 years ago. The new Camaro comes in close to 4,000 lbs, even in V6 form, which is totally ridiculous for something that supposed to be sporty - it’s a big reason that its performance is not as impressive as it could be.


38 posted on 09/07/2010 7:04:18 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: Red Badger

Thanks for the info!

Nothing on how it does 0 to 60...but I only looked at it quick...gotta run to a meeting.

Are these guys gonna manufacture these? I’m not clear who Avion is.


39 posted on 09/07/2010 7:06:02 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: TheThinker
Why would they do that?

Government-mandated crash standards. And, greedy trial lawyers looking to turn a fast buck.

40 posted on 09/07/2010 7:07:31 AM PDT by meyer (Our own government has become our enemy,...)
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To: TheThinker

“Why would they do that?”

Airbags, side impact protection, higher crash ratings generally, larger more powerful engine (with a larger transmission), bigger wheels and tires, more luxuries inside. Some of it was driven by government mandates, and some it is things that the buying public demanded. 20 years ago you could sell an 80 HP economy car. Today nobody wants one, it seems. When gas prices got really high a couple of years ago, there was a resurgence in interest in little econobox type cars. Anyone remember the tiny 3-cylinder Suzuki Swift/Pontiac Firefly/Geo Metro - particularly the original one. Small, cheap, and easy on gas, but gutless. The first car I drove as a teenager, a Nissan Micra, weighed about 2,300 lbs, with a fire-breathing 57 HP 1,280 cc engine. Top speed was about 85 or 90 mph, but around town, with a 5-speed manual, it was reasonably sprightly.


41 posted on 09/07/2010 7:12:04 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avion_%28car%29


42 posted on 09/07/2010 7:18:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: Red Badger

One article I read said that this is the diesel engine they used:

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/news/1001dp_799cc_cdi_three_cylinder_diesel_engine/index.html


43 posted on 09/07/2010 7:52:52 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: G Larry

“In our testing the car we were able to achieve 80 mpg At 70 mph and an astonishing 114 mpg at 55 mph driving from Eugene OR. To Portland OR.”


44 posted on 09/07/2010 8:26:34 AM PDT by B4Ranch (America was founded by MARKSMEN, not Marxists.)
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To: saganite

I run my tires a few pounds over what is called for in the owners manual, but you need to be careful. Too much pressure and you distort the tire footprint, sacrificing braking and handling. It’s amazing how small the footprint of a tire is under normal circumstances, compared with what we ask of it regarding weight, acceleration, handling and braking.


45 posted on 09/07/2010 8:31:11 AM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: mcmuffin
My 1995 Olds 98 gets 31 mpg on the highway.

My nephew has a '94. A few years ago I drove it all over PA and nearly dropped my teeth when I gassed up the first time (Lancaster to Williamsport) - 30 mpg!

46 posted on 09/07/2010 9:44:11 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Red Badger
Craig Henderson ... drove his...Avion automobile from the US-Canada border to the US-Mexico border on a single tank of diesel fuel.

Sure, but that's North to South, so it's all downhill...

47 posted on 09/07/2010 11:32:33 AM PDT by AnalogReigns ("I always liked going south. Somehow feels like going downhill." - Treebeard in LofRings)
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To: WellyP

Lotus 7.


48 posted on 09/07/2010 11:37:00 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (King: "I have a dream"...Sharpton: "I want a check")
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To: AnalogReigns

He should drive I-10, L.A. to Jacksonville.......................


49 posted on 09/07/2010 11:39:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: Red Badger

Just found out that BMW is gonna be offering a 5 series diesel here starting next summer.From what I’ve read it’s likely to be EPA rated at about 38 mpg (highway) which is 2 mpg better than my current diesel.As soon as it comes out I’m gonna order one.The new 5 series is a really beautiful car and with all that torque and 44 mpg highway (I get 42 mpg now) it will truly be my dream car.


50 posted on 09/07/2010 4:07:36 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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