Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Gen. Petraeus: Dove World Outreach Center's 'Burn a Koran Day' endangers US troops
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 09/07/2010 | Jonathan Adams

Posted on 09/07/2010 6:19:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The United States' top commander in Afghanistan has warned that a planned Koran-burning event in Florida could put US troops in danger.

Gen. David Petraeus added his voice to mounting protests from both the US and abroad over the Dove World Outreach Center's plans to burn Korans on Saturday to mark the anniversary of the September 11 terror attacks. His comments ratcheted up the pressure on once-obscure pastor Terry Jones to call off the event.

The controversy comes as some 120,000 US and allied troops are waging a counter-insurgency campaign against the Taliban in Afghanistan, a campaign whose goals include winning support for the US-backed government from the largely Muslim population.

General Petraeus said that burning Korans "is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems – not just here, but everywhere in the world we are engaged with the Islamic community," according to CNN.

""It could endanger troops and it could endanger the overall effort in Afghanistan," Gen. David Petraeus said in a statement issued Monday ...

"Even the rumor that it might take place has sparked demonstrations such as the one that took place in Kabul yesterday," he said. "Were the actual burning to take place, the safety of our soldiers and civilians would be put in jeopardy and accomplishment of the mission would be made more difficult."

"Mr. Jones, the pastor of the center in Gainesville, Florida, has touted the activity as "International Burn the Koran Day." Jones also authored a book titled "Islam is of the Devil," which has a Facebook page and Twitter account.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: burning; dove; islam; koran; obama; petraus; politics; searchandfind; waronterror
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-200 ... 351-381 next last
To: SeekAndFind
This is nothing more than a pointless, stupid spiritual stunt. There is nothing of the spirit of Christ in what this 'church' is doning. In fact, it will only hinder bringing the gospel to muslims which is what is really necessary. Let the muslims become converted, then they can burn their own Koran's.

Ref: https://www.crescentproject.org/

51 posted on 09/07/2010 7:06:53 AM PDT by tbpiper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

By this statement, the General just guaranteed that everybody and their mother in the Muslim world now knows about this.

He should have kept his mouth shut and let the thing pass and very few people even noticing it.


52 posted on 09/07/2010 7:07:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

So don’t burn them. Insert strips of bacon to bookmark some of the most important verses and then pass them around for people to read.


53 posted on 09/07/2010 7:08:33 AM PDT by fatrat (extremely extreme right-wing radicalized veteran)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wmileo

We will not win until we have a war. PC wars cannot be won. We have backed off Islam and backed off Islam......at some point, we will have no room to back off or fight back. There are no moderate muslims.


54 posted on 09/07/2010 7:08:57 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: tbpiper
Thanks to the general's Obama administration's admonition its now much more than that.
55 posted on 09/07/2010 7:09:39 AM PDT by skeeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: skeeter
"It was a huge mistake asking him to back off publically."

Who exactly was in a good position to ask him privately? If this could have been accomplished at the time Jones was planning this months ago, it would have been both effective and possibly a win-win.

56 posted on 09/07/2010 7:10:34 AM PDT by wmileo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
That event was un-necessary and provocative. Christians should SHUN the Dove Center and OPENLY voice their disapporval to what they are doing.

Agreed. Stupid acts like this serve no purpose other than to rile up these animals more than they already are. I thought we were better than they are?


57 posted on 09/07/2010 7:11:03 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (YouTube My Space and I'll Google your Yahoo.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

This is still America. You can burn any book you want to. And, by the way, generals do not have the authority to tell American civilians what to do.


58 posted on 09/07/2010 7:11:13 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tbpiper

Its reaching beyond a single church now, its viral.

Its being talked about as an acceptable act of defiance against Islam.

It pisses them off and thats the idea, if they were a supposedly peaceful cult they would just laugh it off but no it exposes the tattooed face of Satan on each and every one of them.


59 posted on 09/07/2010 7:11:22 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Marty62

See Post #26.


60 posted on 09/07/2010 7:12:05 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Last time I checked, our troops are heavily Armed, how about you bureaucrat Generals, start letting them use their weapons, betchya money we’d have fewer casualties...instead of the medal of restraint b.s.


61 posted on 09/07/2010 7:12:06 AM PDT by gitmogrunt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wmileo
Who exactly was in a good position to ask him privately?

Seriously? The President. The Secty of State. The DOJ.

Or any of the thousands of people who can be asked to represent them.

62 posted on 09/07/2010 7:12:59 AM PDT by skeeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: reagan_fanatic

Rile them up? They hate us and they are killing us as we speak. Should I worry about whether or not they’re riled up?


63 posted on 09/07/2010 7:14:31 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: P-Marlowe; SeekAndFind
The controversy comes as some 120,000 US and allied troops are waging a counter-insurgency campaign against the Taliban in Afghanistan, a campaign whose goals include winning support for the US-backed government from the largely Muslim population.... We could solve the whole Afghanistan problem if we just converted all the Muslims there to Christianity.

LOL!

I'm aching for these mohammedite cultocrat apologists to give me the address of "First Christian Church, Mecca" and then explain why they can't find it on Google earth.

64 posted on 09/07/2010 7:14:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: McGruff
Who's the moron who thought this would be a good idea?

It's a great idea. The war on terrorism will last until the last moslem dies. If even one copy of the koran remains then we will eventually have someone stupid enough to choose to follow it and teh war starts anew.

You think they hate us now.

Yes they do. And they could not possibly hate us any worse. Kind of like democrats hate freedom. Nothing we do will EVER make them like us.

There is only one answer to islam and Ann Coulter hit it on the head. Conquer their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity.

Way back when it was said that the arab is either at your throat or at your feet. This applies more generally to the moslem. We have allowed them to be at our throats for far too long. We need to put them back at our feet until we can eradicate them entirely.

I fully support nuking mecca and medina and every moslem city of over 50,000. I figure that would be a good start. If they want to behave like stone age barbarians then lets really put them back in the stone age.

65 posted on 09/07/2010 7:15:50 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Burning Korans is both stupid and useless.

Free speech is free speech.

If you support burning Korans, you support burning ANY book people don't agree with.

THINK about what you are saying here, people.

66 posted on 09/07/2010 7:16:11 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tbpiper

this has its source in Acts 19, so it isn’t pointless.

they’re demonstrating what Christians think of lies.


67 posted on 09/07/2010 7:16:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Golly, you mean this might cause the muzzies to shoot at and blow up our guys?

What? You say they already are?

never mind.


68 posted on 09/07/2010 7:16:53 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The upcoming election is the most important in our lifetimes!!! BE THERE!!!!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: July4
Rile them up? They hate us and they are killing us as we speak. Should I worry about whether or not they’re riled up?

Then we kill them back, as we are currently doing in Afghanistan and Iraq. That's the way to deal with the muhammedians, not by performing stupid stunts like this.


69 posted on 09/07/2010 7:17:18 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (YouTube My Space and I'll Google your Yahoo.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: xzins

Agreed. Why the tears of anguish over burning the Koran? Muslims are burning PEOPLE.


70 posted on 09/07/2010 7:17:37 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: July4
Yes. This is still America, and we don't burn books here.

Our Founding Fathers would cringe at your words. FREE SPEECH.

71 posted on 09/07/2010 7:17:45 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: reagan_fanatic

Absolutely. Burning books is stupid, UN-Christian, and UN-American.


72 posted on 09/07/2010 7:19:05 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: reagan_fanatic
Stupid acts like this serve no purpose other than to rile up these animals more than they already are. I thought we were better than they are?

When an animal is rabid you destroy it and burn anything that may have the disease in it. Hence burn a koran day.

The only problem is that we are allowing the rabid dogs to live.

73 posted on 09/07/2010 7:21:02 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: ohioWfan
Book burning on command of fascist regime = bad

Book burning by private citizens as an expression of free speech = good

74 posted on 09/07/2010 7:22:05 AM PDT by skeeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: ohioWfan

If you want to burn a book you own. Have at it. It’s your book.

Would I burn a book? Well, I’ve never done it, but what else do you do with something you find utterly offensive? I’ll bet you wouldn’t object to burning books advocating pedophilia, bestiality, torture, etc.


75 posted on 09/07/2010 7:24:07 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: John O

Burn, baby, burn. Freedom sometimes means doing things about which others disagree. Heck...nobama and his ilk essentially have burned thew Constitution. I haven’t seen these appeasers getting their panties in a wad about that. Make sure you soak your copy of the koran in pig fat because some books are hard to burn.


76 posted on 09/07/2010 7:24:44 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: xzins

There probably won’t be a single ex-Muslim at the scene.


77 posted on 09/07/2010 7:25:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: July4

How about not buying any such things in the first place?

Too easy....


78 posted on 09/07/2010 7:26:24 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Gen. Petraeus: Dove World Outreach Center’s ‘Burn a Mohammed Cartoon Day’ endangers US troops


79 posted on 09/07/2010 7:26:25 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: July4; P-Marlowe
Agreed. Why the tears of anguish over burning the Koran? Muslims are burning PEOPLE.

Wasn't it last month they murdered a dozen Christian doctors who were saving everything from eyes to lives in Afgahnistan?

I'm sure they had enormous cause for murdering those loving souls. I'll bet someone in the west wore a mini-skirt or something....we really need to crack down on that. Don't want the muzzies getting mad at us. No telling what they'll do.

80 posted on 09/07/2010 7:27:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: ohioWfan
Burning books is stupid, UN-Christian, and UN-American.

And protected by our Constitution.

81 posted on 09/07/2010 7:28:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: Eye of Unk
"Its being talked about as an acceptable act of defiance against Islam."

For the record. I am suspicious of all Islamists or Islamofacists and I don't have good vibrations concerning the Imam of the proposed Ground Zero Mosque. But I don't think anything constructive is accomplished when you stoop so low(at their level) and burn any book, including this one.

Someone on this thread reported that the U.S. Military ordered the burning of Bibles. Is that true? If it is, them it was a stupid act as well.

We are not going to be victorious by burning books. it makes us look silly and desperate.

82 posted on 09/07/2010 7:28:57 AM PDT by wmileo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Gen. Petraeus: Dove World Outreach Center’s ‘Burn a Playboy Magazine Day’ endangers US troops


83 posted on 09/07/2010 7:30:22 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

A bookburning might not be the most mature way of protesting but in this case the message to violent Muslims is that we are through cringing in the face of their threats. We’re done being the ones that are scared of them. We need to give them reasons to be scared of us. That’s the language they speak.


84 posted on 09/07/2010 7:31:17 AM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: John O

Bush had the right idea after 9/11 - take the fight to the enemy and kill as many of them as you can. Seek them out and destroy them. Make their losses so great that it forces them to reconsider their murderous jihad against the West.

I don’t give a sh*t how dedicated they are to their twisted ideology - if they suffer badly enough, they’re going to reconsider their current course of action against us. Kissing allah’s backside is one thing, seeing everyone around you being blown to bits is another.

This is the way to win against radical islam, not by holding a silly book burning.


85 posted on 09/07/2010 7:31:32 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (YouTube My Space and I'll Google your Yahoo.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Gen. Petraeus: Dove World Outreach Center’s ‘Burn an Obummer Birth Certificate Day’ endangers US troops


86 posted on 09/07/2010 7:31:40 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mojave

Bibles in Afgan languages could only be there for prosletyzing. The troops have no business promoting any religion over there and the organization that sent them should know better.


87 posted on 09/07/2010 7:31:48 AM PDT by Lou Budvis (Refudiate 0bama '12)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: ohioWfan

They burned books in Acts 19, so it’s not “UN-Christian” UNless you meant “United Nations-Christians”

I agree that’s the kind of Christianity the UN would invent.


88 posted on 09/07/2010 7:33:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: reagan_fanatic
Stupid acts like this serve no purpose other than to rile up these animals more than they already are.

When the animals break cover our snipers have better shots.

89 posted on 09/07/2010 7:33:32 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: wmileo

We’ll get a lot more converts when they fear us.


90 posted on 09/07/2010 7:33:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Gen. Petraeus: Dove World Outreach Center’s ‘Burn a Whip Day’ endangers US troops


91 posted on 09/07/2010 7:35:00 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lou Budvis
The troops have no business promoting any religion over there

Then why are our troops dying to preserve Islam?

92 posted on 09/07/2010 7:35:30 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: HiTech RedNeck

Just a lot of Pauls.


93 posted on 09/07/2010 7:35:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: reagan_fanatic

Demonstrating for the muslim world how a private American citizen can be threatened into willfully suppressing his own constitutional rights will help us defeat the terrorists how?


94 posted on 09/07/2010 7:35:54 AM PDT by skeeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Gen. Petraeus: Dove World Outreach Center’s ‘Burn Camel Dung Day’ endangers US troops


95 posted on 09/07/2010 7:36:03 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ohioWfan
we don't burn books here.

There is a huge and significant difference between burning a few books sa an effigy in denouncing something and PURGING every book in the country. No responsible people are calling for a purge AFAIK.

For instance, I own a koran (electronically) and I'll keep it and read it yet I support the burning of a limited number of korans publicly to make a point just as offensive to the muslims who support building a mosque at ground zero.

A bit of tit-for-tat defiance is appropriate and good in a real war. We cannot maintain our own freedoms by simply lying down and letting them overrun us.

They need to realize that it is not worth it to them trying to fight against us as they will not succeed in doing so. They won't get that message without a few pointed barbs in their general direction.

96 posted on 09/07/2010 7:36:09 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Vermont Vet
GOD forbid (pun intended) we should have allowed any "Proseletizing" and anyone trying to convert the heathen/barbarian/rock-worshipping-pagans.

Ann Coulter had it right nine years ago.

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

97 posted on 09/07/2010 7:38:06 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: xzins

You’re really stretching to the point of tearing apart. All those preachers burning books — and no repenters. No analogous scene exists in the New Testament.


98 posted on 09/07/2010 7:38:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]

To: Mojave

And of course this would only be a new Islam with “Christianity” stamped on the book’s cover. Christianity is not spread by the sword, period.


99 posted on 09/07/2010 7:39:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 97 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Gen. Petraeus: Dove World Outreach Center’s ‘Burn a Deodorant Day’ endangers US troops


100 posted on 09/07/2010 7:39:54 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-200 ... 351-381 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson