Skip to comments.Gen. Petraeus: Dove World Outreach Center's 'Burn a Koran Day' endangers US troops
Posted on 09/07/2010 6:19:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To the point......your post made no sense. So stop pinging me, please. There's no reason to believe anything you say further will be any more logical than what you've already posted.
Thanks ever so much, and if you're lucky, maybe you'll get your face in the news when you participate in this irresponsible book-burning......
Your tactical reasoning is flawed. Theirs ranks swell because of the anger resulting from insulting acts such as the burning of their holy books. That useless activity could push heretofore nonparticipating Muslims into the fracus. How could you think otherwise?
What reeking dishonesty you use in support of appeasement of our enemies and to support your contempt for free speech by Americans.
The actual majority opinion upheld Chapter 378, § 2, of the Public Laws of New Hampshire, which stated:
"No person shall address any offensive, derisive or annoying word to any other person who is lawfully in any street or other public place, nor call him by any offensive or derisive name, nor make any noise or exclamation in his presence and hearing with intent to deride, offend or annoy him, or to prevent him from pursuing his lawful business or occupation."
It dealt with fighting words from one individual directed against another individual in his presence. You're busted. You should be ashamed.
I'll bet you're not.
Well then, at least we've identified our fundamental difference.
I think the time is better spent calling for "freedom of motion" for our troops and calls to keep politics out of the battle.
Then your beef is with Petraeus and not with Rev Jones, or me.
The ranks of those cowards swells in response to any perceived weakness. You know, like the presence of a quisling in our midst who falsely claims that the church may be silenced according to a Supreme Court decision that says nothing of the sort.
? You must have me confused with someone else.
Anyway, I'm happy to accommodate your request. Happy trails.
Clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but amusing nonetheless.....
Happy Trails, Roy.........or is that Dale? ;)
You must be posting that to the wrong person. I guess we all make mistakes, eh?
This has been an interesting thread, true. And unusual in that I typically don't get into these long discussions as I don't really like arguing with other conservatives. I mostly post dopey pictures mocking our enemies.
I will also say that you are definitely in the majority, at least on national talk radio and TV.
I still see problems with caving in at this point and would like a non-mainstream group like this to do it and examine what the real consequences are - because I know that there will be consequences, just not as bad as you predict. I just happen to think that more good can come of it than most seem to think is possible in terms of seeing just who would actually threaten and even attack based on what we consider a First Amemndment right. I also don't think they should back down now that they've opened their mouths.
Something extreme like this is either 1) just a fringe event or 2) a tactic to raise awareness or disturb the status quo and make a point of simply being able to do it.
So I guess I want to see it happen for reason #2, the raw shake-up-the-inattentive value of it (many good people have no idea sharia is coming to America) as well as to simply show the enemy, particularly those here in the US, that we do have a First Amendment and we are serious about it. Sharia would take that away. I pray that no troops or church folk are hurt or killed because of it.
Now that the First Amendment is in play (even if this instance was a bad idea to begin with) I think backing down is bad on the principle of it. It actually IS important to win in this case IMHO. And no, I am not on the battlefield but volunteer professionals who can take care of themselves are.
Have a good day, FRiend.
Shoot them if they are upset. No one here in the USA went out shooting muzzies after 9/11. What makes their POS religion so special? Why do they get special treatment? Does the 1st amendment only apply to f’ng islam?
Screw them, nuke mecca.
YOU were the first to insult and YOU were the first to whine, making this post, among other things, amusing.
Facts are stubborn things. Perhaps you should consider actually using them some day.....
Stay well, yourself.
When Muslim nations attack us, we should reduce them to rubble and send them back to the Stone Age. Let their neighbors rebuild them. I don't advocate insulting them or otherwise inciting them to violence; however, I surely do come out in favor of slagging Mecca if that would help.
Let us use our Freedom of Speech to get our own house in order. We have a serious lack in representation within Congress. That is far more important than rattling the cages of animals.
You also have a great day!
Show me the post where I insulted you, OhioWfan.
If you cannot then I will consider accepting your apology.
If you are a big enough person, that is.
I'll just assume you confused me with someone else - an honest mistake.
I don't believe you're the kind of person to purposely lie about something like that.
If you're a big enough person, please apologize.
I'm sorry I responded to your insult with another insult. I've admitted I shouldn't have already, but I am sorry that I did.
As for the whining, see post 262, re my post 242.
I'm sorry I responded to anything you've said skeeter. You guys all have the same tactic. What you do, you accuse others of doing. You're not worth the aggravation.
(Oh.......sorry about the "roy" or "dale" comment too. I have no idea what gender you are. I should have left your "happy trails" silliness alone.).
Now I'm sure that no one else is interested in this 'discussion' we're having, so I'll try to do my part to end it. It's a waste of both of our time.
On the topic of the thread, one more time. A bunch of Americans burning Korans is stupid and irresponsible, and General Petraeus is correct in pointing out that it may well endanger our troops. And that has absolutely nothing to do with what you posted in post 177 about our 'pulling out of their now.'
Absolutely nothing. It was nonsensical.
Now you may put your money where your fingers are, and go burn a Koran on 9/11 and fill some emotional need you have.
I'm going to remember the terror against us and pray for the families who lost so much on this day, and pray for the country as we reel under a Muslim-sympathizing Marxist "president."
You're free to do whatever you want. For now, this is still America.
We both hold the same level of affection for "Those Guys".
In my later years, however, I am beginning to appreaciate and emulate the gentlemanly behavior of our Founders. I don't think insults will help in the quest for resolution to problems. They are good only for picking a fight. I don't think it is ethical to pick a fight that others must wage on my behalf.
If I were sitting out there in the sand, I'd probably be a problem child for command. ;-D
You’re too quick on the trigger there, Roy. ;)
You really think if they decide not to burn a koran that a soldier’s life will be saved, that the Taliban guy will say, “Nah, I got him in my sites, but because they didn’t burn the book, I won’t pull the trigger today!” ... that is naive. That jerk will pull the trigger whether or not the book is burned ... that’s what they do. They, unlike us, know they are in a war ... we’re still trying to justify it in our own minds. Maybe you’d like to sit down and have tea with them? You and Obama, not me.
“I wonder when Petreaus is going to figure out that there is no such thing as a moderate muslim.”
While they are probably in the minority, to be fair, there are some moderate/democratic Muslims. Mark Levin had one on his show (the replay was yesterday, if you wish to look it up).
“How does he think our soldiers who are Christian felt about having bibles confiscated and burned by our own military?”
Also, while Petraeus has some good traits, I was extremely disappointed that he did not change the rules of engagement.
Wow. If you considered this an insult then you've got issues that far exceed my ability to diagnose.
btw, I'm very healthy emotionally......you know.......a grown up. And I apologize when I've been wrong. How about you?
I also have no emotional need to burn anything for no logical reason, either.
(Which is why I'm on this thread in the first place. I figured some stability was needed among the hotheads and nutjobs who post to fulfill some need they have to pretend to be tough guys while sitting in Mom's basement, you know?)
Oh......and do let us know how that book burning goes when the rest of us are remembering 9/11 with the respect it deserves....
Well, today I did it again and I'm sorry.
“Coalition to Honor Ground Zero: Burning a Koran on September 11th irresponsible and wrong
by Editors on September 7, 2010
STATEMENT FROM THE COALITION TO HONOR GROUND ZERO
The Coalition to Honor Ground Zero has learned that Minister Terry Jones has stated he will be burning a Koran on September 11th.
We find such an idea irresponsible and wrong.
We uphold the Ministers freedom of speech and assembly yet with rights come responsibilities; we urge him not to go ahead with his plans of burning a Peoples religious book.”
If only Imam Rauf, and associates, had this much class.
I am now in my later years and have decided that political correctness sucks and I no longer tolerate it it. To each his own. We were attacked on a religious basis and I think the whole religion is the enemy. To be sensitive to their beliefs is just plain stupid. Ask the British about Neville Chamberlain.
I'm just sarcastic and honest, and you 'drew' yourself into this by posting nonsense to me in the first place, insulting me, and then whining about my reaction. Stop blaming me for what you did here. I won't be waiting for your apology. I know you can't bring yourself to admit you were wrong.
Oh....and do enjoy the book burning.
I'm not even in the slightest sensitive too their beliefs. I just think it is not responsible to the stir the pot only at the expense of the guys sitting in the sand. I just can't take the approach that you do: That it is OK to enrage the enemy so that they attack those who now serve in the war zone. I think it would be terrific if you would insult the Muslims at your own expense. If you want to be a bullet magnet, do it at your own risk not at others'.
It really surprises me that there are people who imagine themselves to be responsible adults when they incite violence to others in the safety of their church or home. I guess you are too full of your own importance to understand.
I think Petraeus’ point is that our troops are serving with the local army, who are of course Muslims, and burning a Koran endangers not only that relationship, but the safety of our troops.
If you don’t want us serving with Muslims and fighting on our own, that’s what I guess you mean by ‘total war’, then we’re talking about the draft. That’s another can of worms altogether, though.