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Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47 (Axe To Grind Alert!)
CBS New York ^ | 09/07/2010 | CBS New York

Posted on 09/07/2010 5:02:01 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

UNIONDALE, N.Y. (CBS 2) — He was arrested for protecting his property and family.

But it’s how the Long Island man did it that police say crossed the line.

He got an AK-47 assault rifle, pulled the trigger and he ended up in jail, reports CBS 2’s Pablo Guzman.

George Grier said he had to use his rifle on Sunday night to stop what he thought was going to be an invasion of his Uniondale home by a gang he thought might have been the vicious “MS-13.” He said the whole deal happened as he was about to drive his cousin home.

“I went around and went into the house, ran upstairs and told my wife to call the police. I get the gun and I go outside and I come into the doorway and now, by this time, they are in the driveway, back here near the house. I tell them, you know, ‘Can you please leave?’ Grier said.

Grier said the five men dared him to use the gun; and that their shouts brought another larger group of gang members in front of his house. “He starts threatening my family, my life. ‘Oh you’re dead. I’m gonna kill your family and your babies. You’re dead.’ So when he says that, 20 others guys come rushing around the corner. And so I fired four warning shots into the grass,” Grier said.

Grier was later arrested. John Lewis is Grier’s attorney. “What he’s initially charged with – A D felony reckless endangerment — requires a depraved indifference to human life, creating a risk that someone’s going to die. Shooting into a lawn doesn’t create a risk of anybody dying,” Lewis said.

Grier said he knew Nassau County Police employ the hi-tech “ShotSpotter” technology in his area and that the shooting would bring police in minutes. Cops told Guzman he was very cooperative.

Grier also said he was afraid the gang outside his house was the dreaded MS-13. And Nassau County Police Lt. Andrew Mulraine, head of the gang unit, said MS-13 has 2,000 members in the county.

“They’re probably the most organized. They almost have a military hierarchy within the gang, so they are the most organized gang we encounter on a daily basis,” Mulraine said.

You may think a person has the right to defend their home. But the law says you can only use physical force to deter physical force. Grier said he never saw anyone pull out a gun, so a court would have to decide on firing the gun.

Police determined Grier had the gun legally. He has no criminal record. And so he was not charged for the weapon. That ShotSpotter technology pinpoints where a gun has been fired within 35 feet. Police said it also detected two other shootings in nearby Roosevelt that night.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; donutwatch; ms13; rkba
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

21 posted on 09/07/2010 5:35:15 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Not to worry..........soon the police will not respond to these calls and with the rat politicians disarming the law abiding civilian population thru legislation and regulation you might as well kiss your a## goodbye


22 posted on 09/07/2010 5:38:27 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (We are our founding fathers keepers)
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To: jmacusa

The only thing you have to do to attract attention from MS-13 is stare at one for a microsecond to long. In this case I think the cousin is the key.


23 posted on 09/07/2010 5:39:08 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

A guy who say’s to a man holding an AK47, you havent the nerve to shoot is one crazy gangbanger.

Well the guy got charged, but he is alive. Thanks to his weapon.


24 posted on 09/07/2010 5:39:17 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Despicable.

A man, protecting his wife, children, and home - after being threatened verbally with death by 20 gang members, is the one charged by the police.

This country has become a farce.

Meanwhile, the Federal Government won't enforce its own immigration laws, and sues the one state that at least attempts to find out who is even here illegally!

25 posted on 09/07/2010 5:42:29 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Molon Labbie

Good post.


26 posted on 09/07/2010 5:47:02 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Does someone have that picture of the media's "gun recognition" problem (i.e. every gun to them is an AK-47?)

In the meantime....


27 posted on 09/07/2010 5:49:29 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: OneWingedShark

That’s the one....


28 posted on 09/07/2010 5:50:17 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Among the places where I would never live Long Island comes immediately to mind.


29 posted on 09/07/2010 5:50:52 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Dick Vomer
I don't know who you think you are, but threads like this are for arrogant, chest thumping bullies to spew ridiculous generalizations, hyperbole, and threats.

Please take your courteous and valuable advice somewhere else.

30 posted on 09/07/2010 5:55:50 PM PDT by Castlebar
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To: Paladin2

31 posted on 09/07/2010 5:56:21 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: Dick Vomer

That’s good common sense whatever state you find yourself in.


32 posted on 09/07/2010 5:59:06 PM PDT by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
It sounds to me like he deserves one of those "courageous restraint" medals. If he was really assaulted by that many gang bangers he had some strong nerves to fire warning shots instead of "dead where you stand" shots.

We all know the cops won't be there if they come back and they will probably come back.

33 posted on 09/07/2010 6:01:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Paladin2
I doubt he had an AK auto. MSM lying again.

Nowhere in the article do I see the word "auto" or "automatic" used to describe the weapon.
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34 posted on 09/07/2010 6:01:40 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The extravagance of his hype is matched by the inadequacy of his performance.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I think you should let the bad guys get one of your kids, or your wife, before you even think about discharging your weapon. That is, if you want to avoid prosecution.


35 posted on 09/07/2010 6:03:46 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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Grier said the five men dared him to use the gun; and that their shouts brought another larger group of gang members in front of his house. “He starts threatening my family, my life. ‘Oh you’re dead. I’m gonna kill your family and your babies. You’re dead.’

Firing some warning shots into the ground under these circumstances constitutes a “Depraved indifference to human life? “

It would have been a depraved indifference to the safety of his family if Mr Lewis’s had not done at least that.


36 posted on 09/07/2010 6:18:58 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Castlebar; Dick Vomer
Wassamatter cupcake...somebody pee in your granola crunchy this morning?

Mr. Vomers advice is sound, intelligent, could prevent a tense situation from escalating and save a life or lives. Those are good things.

Perhaps you directed your comment to the wrong person?
37 posted on 09/07/2010 6:21:28 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Preview of coming attractions. Use of firepower against vicious MS-13 gang members is completely justified in the “castle defense” doctrine. The safe world most of us knew as children is gone completely. Now it is defend yourself with sufficient firepower to save yourself and your home from invasion.

We will be learning of these types of stories almost everywhere since our federal government has surrendered control of our borders to masses of illegal criminals invading our country. Buy an AK47 before the authorities outlaw the weapon.


38 posted on 09/07/2010 6:22:27 PM PDT by mohresearcher
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To: Castlebar

My apologies...I completely mis-read your intentions.

It is I who need to sharpen up a bit. More coffee please.


39 posted on 09/07/2010 6:23:25 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Paladin2
Wouldn't a AK 47 be illegal? He probably had an SK 47.
40 posted on 09/07/2010 6:24:37 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Gus the Scotty dog likes cheese!)
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