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California Regulates Tire Pressure (no joke)
California.gov ^ | 09/06/2010

Posted on 09/08/2010 5:22:25 AM PDT by EBH

Link is to the pdf final regulation.

Take your vehicle in for repair, ...

they are required to complete the tire air inspection.

Sure you can decline, but have to either provide proof it was done in the last 30 days or promise to have it done in a week.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab32; callegislation; carb; lping; tirepressure
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And the service provider has to keep these records for 3 years on your vehicle. Can't wait for the database set-up on this one.

Decline and then try to sell your car later...

1 posted on 09/08/2010 5:22:26 AM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

If it wasn’t amended, you get cited for incorrect pressure based on the repair shop’s readings.


2 posted on 09/08/2010 5:24:34 AM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: EBH
coming soon, keeping records on how many times you took a $hit.

How many times you got laid
How much laundry you did
How many breathes of air you consumed.

3 posted on 09/08/2010 5:28:10 AM PDT by bikerman (Obama lied pelicans died)
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To: EBH

Another make-work position for a government bureaucrat........


4 posted on 09/08/2010 5:32:13 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: bikerman

” coming soon, keeping records on how many times you took a $hit.
How many times you got laid
How much laundry you did
How many breathes of air you consumed.”

.. I think MD already taxes all of them


5 posted on 09/08/2010 5:32:43 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: bikerman
How many times you got laid

That would be a pretty thin file for me these days...

6 posted on 09/08/2010 5:32:51 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: EBH
Well, there is an out clause (sort of), Article 3(b):

The check is NOT required if the tires are deemed to be unsafe.

How is that government efficiency? They will send you back on the road with bald tires onto an occassionally wet, oil slicked highway, but let's make sure you are not adding to your carbon footprint!

7 posted on 09/08/2010 5:33:51 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: EBH
Who decides what the "correct" tire pressure is? The tire manufacturer has an idea, based on tire construction and intended load. The vehicle manufacturer has an idea, based on desired ride characteristics. A savy driver may want to make adjustments based on driving style.

Then toss in the transients. Ambient air temperature changes change tire pressure. Tires heat up under high speed driving, changing tire pressure. Pressure is relative, it'll read one thing at sea level, another when you drive up into the mountains. Beach driving or other soft-surface (mud) often requires you to lower tire pressure to increase contact patch size. Tire and vehicle manufacturers recommendations are based on average loading, light or heavy vehicle loading may require adjustments for optimal performance.

So, after all that, some big-government bureaucrat is going to try to tell me, and Joe down at the service station what the right tire pressure is? And just how well calibrated is Joe's gauge? Hey, I know, lets create more regulation and bureaucracy related to the gauges, more un-paid work for Joe...yeah, that'll help the economy.

8 posted on 09/08/2010 5:34:47 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: EBH

Wait a minute - isn’t this what 0 proposed - that we were to do this for better gas mileage?


9 posted on 09/08/2010 5:34:54 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: EBH
So now it's not enough for the driver to keep a pressure gauge and monitor his/her own tire pressure. The pressure has to be certified by a qualified government stooge.
10 posted on 09/08/2010 5:35:40 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: EBH

2 Nov. 2010 - Voters “regulate” California government.


11 posted on 09/08/2010 5:36:49 AM PDT by G Larry (I'd rather see the voters write off Obama!)
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To: EBH

WE ARE NOW ENERGY INDEPENDENT. PARTY TIME!


12 posted on 09/08/2010 5:37:57 AM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: EBH
This state needs to go on a low-CARB diet.
13 posted on 09/08/2010 5:39:40 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: EBH

I have bad news people, new vehicles with an on board air pressure monitoring system can beam a signal to a freeway data acquisition box with your ID and you may get a fine if you are driving on under inflated tires.

Not a joke or a conspiracy, most new vehicles have this, all it takes is the go ahead from the Feds or the state to get a signal from your Onstar or such. You may not even have to drive the vehicle, you get a fine for it before it leaves your driveway, after a warning.


14 posted on 09/08/2010 5:40:57 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Joann37
Wait a minute - isn’t this what 0 proposed - that we were to do this for better gas mileage?

Yup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0

"But we could save all the oil they're talking about getting off drilling if everyone was just inflating their tires."

15 posted on 09/08/2010 5:41:42 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: bikerman

They will be installing meters that can check on all those things from satellites in space. You WILL be getting a visit soon.


16 posted on 09/08/2010 5:43:12 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: EBH

CA should just get it over with and assign every household and business a State Nanny to watch over every move, ensure compliance with every regulation and submit all of the applicable reports to the appropriate Cheif Nanny agencies.


17 posted on 09/08/2010 5:44:37 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: EBH

When are Californians going to wake up, and say “NO!” to nanny-state tyranny?


18 posted on 09/08/2010 5:44:43 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: bikerman
coming soon, keeping records on how many times you got laid, how many times you took a $hit....

Because then they've got you coming and going.

19 posted on 09/08/2010 5:45:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: bikerman

“How many times you got laid, how much laundry you did, how many breathes of air you consumed”.... You mean AT THE SAME TIME?!!!


20 posted on 09/08/2010 5:45:50 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: EBH; calcowgirl
I predict that this will actually INCREASE fuel consumption. For example, I have a truck I drive much less than once a month. I will have to drive it down the mountain to get it inspected? How about boat trailers? This is just plain idiotic.

I have never seen a rule so likely to induce a negative reaction on the part of the public. I hope the greenies and the Slave Party takes the brunt, but with Arnold in power, one can make the case that this is designed to provoke a reaction against Republicans.

21 posted on 09/08/2010 5:46:02 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: EBH
I've joked for years with my kids/grandkids that I want to get a donkey.

A donkey doesn't spook like a horse nor need grains and much less vet care.

A donkey isn't as stubborn as a mule.

A donkey ‘gases up’ along the side of the road, for free.

I think I'm not kidding anymore,

Indeed, I think I'll get ahead of the curve and start breeding donkeys.

22 posted on 09/08/2010 5:46:24 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (g)
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To: EBH

More legislation from the granola state- the land of fruits and nuts.


23 posted on 09/08/2010 5:46:28 AM PDT by alienken (Need prayer? Join my group. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/churchofchristprayer/)
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To: EBH

let me guess....the fine for each infraction, $800


24 posted on 09/08/2010 5:49:06 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: EBH
While living overseas I watched the UK version of COPS and ticketing people for low tire pressure was a big past time of the police. Ofcourse, it's just another revenue stream to suck dry the milk cows for what little they have left.

They stop a car full of illegals and let them go free into Brit society but heaven help the anglo saxon tax payer with a low tire.

Man, when are people going to say enough? Look what they have done and continue to do to our most beautiful state, once the seat of the American dream. A travesty.

25 posted on 09/08/2010 5:52:33 AM PDT by riri
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To: SCalGal

An out in section 5:
(5) A customer may decline the check and inflate service if the
customer affirms one of the following:
(A) He or she has performed (or had performed) a tire pressure
check and inflate service within the last 30 days, or
(B) He or she will perform (or will have performed) a tire
pressure check and inflate service within the next 7 days.
(6) If a tire inflation service was not performed as provided in
subsections (d)(3)-(5), the automotive service provider must indicate on the vehicle service invoice why the service was not completed.


26 posted on 09/08/2010 5:53:39 AM PDT by Afisra
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To: EBH

So. Lets all buy 10,000+ pound vehicles that get 5 mpg shall we so we can avoid this stupidity.... :-)


27 posted on 09/08/2010 5:53:56 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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CA is simply implementing bammies ideas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akjXqfvLu28&feature=related


28 posted on 09/08/2010 5:56:59 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: bikerman
How many breathes of air you consumed.

That was the first draft. Now they only measure the amount of CO2 when you exhale.

And tax it.

29 posted on 09/08/2010 5:56:59 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: EBH; bamahead

Just another state revenue stream/added bureaucracy....


30 posted on 09/08/2010 5:57:38 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: EBH

If California’s doing this with their own money, fine, but if Federal money is involved then let’s have that chopped.

But California could be wasting its own money on this and eventually they’ll get a Federal bailout. Same thing ... we helped pay for the tire pressure inspections.


31 posted on 09/08/2010 5:58:13 AM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: Afisra

Here’s the trick to the section you excerpted,

It says you can do this yourself, right. At least that is how it reads, right?

Prove you did it yourself.


32 posted on 09/08/2010 5:59:23 AM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: Freeport

Sounds like a plan to me, Kenworth or Peterbilt?

My buddies swear by the new Volvos but I’m traditional and I have been driving a Peterbilt for the last 15 years.


33 posted on 09/08/2010 6:00:11 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Past Your Eyes

It is called OnStar.

I had a vehicle with OnStar, it would report to me via email on my oil changes, tire inflation etc.

The technology is available.


34 posted on 09/08/2010 6:01:18 AM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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18 psi get down on the ground!!! Put you hands behind your head.


35 posted on 09/08/2010 6:04:41 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: EBH
Prove you did it yourself.

A lot of vehicles already have electronic tire pressure sensors. It will be a short technology leap to be able to read them at roadside along with a photo of your license plate, and electronically send you a ticket for incorrect pressure.

36 posted on 09/08/2010 6:06:13 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Sarajevo
Another make-work position for a government bureaucrat........

Another revenue generator. Whenever spike strips are deployed in yet another California highspeed car chase, they can add "Failure to Maintain tire Pressure" charges to the long list of charges... well that or give law-abiding citizens a ticket as they change a flat tire on the side of the road.

37 posted on 09/08/2010 6:08:25 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: EBH
Remember when California! evoked visions of The Golden State--a booming economy--endless possibilites!

Now it evokes images of human excrement on the sidewalks of San Francisco--an economy crushed by regulations and nit-wit laws--and Leftist morons haggling over how much tire pressure should be legal.

38 posted on 09/08/2010 6:09:25 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("True evil has a face you know and a voice you trust." Greg Iles. "True Evil")
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To: Yo-Yo

Aren’t we supposed to get our cars serviced too? I can’t remember the last time I changed the points and condensor on my Acura and Tacoma. < /sarcasm>


39 posted on 09/08/2010 6:10:26 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: bmwcyle

Never forget the Green Police

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq58zS4_jvM


40 posted on 09/08/2010 6:13:37 AM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: EBH

I simply push a button on the dash of my car, and viola, there is my tire pressure. And besides that, OnStar sends me an e-mail each month that includes the tire pressure.

FUBO


41 posted on 09/08/2010 6:18:38 AM PDT by Rannug ("When you make peaceful protest impossible, you make violent protest inevitable." JFK)
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To: Eye of Unk

Technology already exists and is operating on the highways to read all data on your vehicle - and signal you to pull into a weigh/inspection station is out of compliance.

All they gotta do is calibrate for passenger vehicles too.

OUr every move, our bank accounts, our credit card purchases, monitor your furnace use, water use, what light bulbs you use -

I’m heading back to the woods


42 posted on 09/08/2010 6:20:36 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (g)
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To: EBH

I just wrote to my city council positing this as an example of a potential stupid regulation just to show them how stupid some of the current ones are. I wrote, “the scary part would be if you think this is a good idea.”


43 posted on 09/08/2010 6:28:06 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: EBH

Let me get this straight, they complain that enforcing immigration laws is too much extar work for law enforcement personnel, but having to check tire pressure isn’t?


44 posted on 09/08/2010 6:28:57 AM PDT by sniper63 (I am the leader of the TEA Party, I, myself am the leader of me, myself for I am the TEA Party!)
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To: SCalGal
“If it wasn’t amended, you get cited for incorrect pressure based on the repair shop’s readings.”

Yep, that's where this is headed. I have OnStar on my truck and get a diagnostics report by email once per month which includes psi on all four tires. So, the technology is available to monitor tire pressure as well as other attributes such as emissions. It's all about the money and controlling other peoples lives.

45 posted on 09/08/2010 6:31:18 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: ThunderSleeps
"And just how well calibrated is Joe's gauge? "

If he used Craftsman Tools, then he would know for sure.

My Cousin Vinny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-NsYBrTp9U

46 posted on 09/08/2010 6:34:30 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: alienken

legislation from the granola state- the land of fruits, flakes, and nuts.


47 posted on 09/08/2010 6:35:05 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: ThunderSleeps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-NsYBrTp9U


48 posted on 09/08/2010 6:37:12 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: Carry_Okie

This crazy reg stems from AB32. Perhaps it will land in the “suspend” category.


49 posted on 09/08/2010 6:48:11 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
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To: snoringbear; All
Question:

I drive a 1991 Buick.

It,potentially, will keep running for as long as I'll need a car - (I'm officially an antique, myself, this year.)

I would rather keep this car running than get a later model.

Can they ‘check’ my cars tire pressure any way other than actual, hands on?

50 posted on 09/08/2010 7:12:48 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (g)
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