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13 Things Your Child's Teacher Won't Tell You(look at THIS BS)!
SHINE by Yahoo News ^ | Tue Aug 17, 2010 | Interviews by Neena Samuel

Posted on 09/08/2010 9:35:24 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

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To: taxcontrol
9. We take on the role of mother, father, psychologist, friend, and adviser every day. Then you are not doing your job. You are there to teach and NOT be a mother or father or psychologist to my child.

So when a 12 year old comes up in tears because she doesn't have her homework because the mother's live-in boyfriend kicked them out and she didn't have a chance to grab her backpack and they slept in the car all night, my reaction should be "That's nice, but you get a zero" and not a comforting hug and an offer to go talk to somebody?

51 posted on 09/08/2010 10:12:26 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Soothesayer

“You think teaching is easy? Are you insane?! It’s not just hard, it’s IMPOSSIBLE! I’d rather work in a factory for 70 hours a week.

You don’t just stick 30 kids in a room and explain the ABCs, you bear the entire weight of the community and it’s endless problems on your shoulders. Unless the teacher doesn’t care about the kids...then it’s a breeze”

If liberals would stop paying for failure and out of wedlock children and worry more about educating for future success instead of brainwashing liberal ideas, it would be a good start. Liberals love taxpayers almost as much as their modern slaves on welfare who vote them into office. I’m sure teachers deal with a whole host of issues due to family issues, but it’s not going to get better as long as liberal mentality seeps into everything. I’m just sick of greedy, worthless politicians always using teachers, policemen and firemen as the weapons to get communities to go along with higher and higher taxes. If teachers want pity from me, please stop whining every August about how sad it is for you that your summer vacation is soon over and how you have to start 2 days earlier than the kids. Boo Hooo Hooo. Most of the world was working 60 hours a week or more all summer. The whining doesn’t generate sympathy, it just makes me want to pay you less.

I also loved the whining I heard last summer from a teacher who now had to cope with a health plan that required $20 copays for Dr’s visits. Hellooooo, the real world has had copays and employee contributions for premiums for at least a decade.

Don’t take this post as anti teacher, I have many good friends who are teachers. Just stop whining - we all have sucky jobs. Jobs just suck in general. In the real world where you have to make it work on a budget and you can’t just raise taxes on everyone when you want more money and your annual pay increase, it’s not too easy either.


52 posted on 09/08/2010 10:14:39 AM PDT by No Socialist
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Some points valid. However, a pet peeve to me is the constant complaining of teaching to the test. If you teach a kid fundamentals, math skills, reading comprehension, etc...the kid will have no problem passing a test.


53 posted on 09/08/2010 10:15:10 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: US Navy Vet

“8. Guys who dribble a ball for a couple of hours a game can make up to $20 million a year. We educate future leaders and make about $51,000 a year.”

Learn to play Basketball.


54 posted on 09/08/2010 10:15:51 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Corin Stormhands; US Navy Vet

I repeat Corin’s call for you to explain what part of this is BS?

As you can see by the many replies, teachers are often unfairly criticized.

But you think these 13 (and 20) points are baseless? You think this teacher is whining?

I think you are an uneducated moron.


55 posted on 09/08/2010 10:16:29 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

I have an issue with 2-3 months of the school year being wasted teaching to the test.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Uh?....Isn’t that what is scheduled to be taught anyway?

If they don’t learn what’s on the test, then the year is wasted and they arrive at the next grade level unprepared for the next year’s work. ( Is a “duh” needed here?)

I have an idea!

Let’s make the government school year 2 to 3 months, since that’s what’s needed to teach the essentials for that year, and let the kids stay home for the rest of the year. Think of the budget savings in salaries, fewer schools ( since the kids could rotate schedules), pensions...etc.


56 posted on 09/08/2010 10:17:03 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

A comforting hug is a neighborly thing to do. Hugs can be given by friends, church members, etc. In other words, hugs are not exclusive to mothers / fathers.

Teaching my kid morality ... that it is ok for Bob and Steve to have a fisting party for their gay friends is NOT ok. Nor is how to put on a condom or that it is not ok to fight for any reason even to defend yourself or requiring school supplies be shared (forceably taken from everyone so that things that they have purchased on their own really belong to others)


57 posted on 09/08/2010 10:19:35 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: US Navy Vet
A few responses from Gov Christie... ;-)

1. If we teach small children, don’t tell us that our jobs are “so cute” and that you wish you could glue and color all day long.

Happens to all sorts of professions. Get used to it.

2. I’m not a marriage counselor. At parent-teacher conferences, let’s stick to Dakota’s progress, not how your husband won’t help you around the house.

Please. I'm not a career counselor so don't tell me how you don't get paid enough. Let's stick to Dakota's progress.

3. We’re sick of standardized testing and having to “teach to the test.”

Too bad. If you have a better way of measuring progress let's hear it. Otherwise, teach what's on the test so we know you are doing your job.

4. Kids used to go out and play after school and resolve problems on their own. Now, with computers and TV, they lack the skills to communicate. They don’t know how to get past hurt feelings without telling the teacher and having her fix it.

Technology isn't the problem. Perhaps there's too much focus on feeeeeeeelings these days... just a thought

5. When I hear a loud belch, I remember that a student’s manners are a reflection of his parents’.

So what. If it's not permitted in your class room, enforce your rules.

6. Your child may be the center of your universe, but I have to share mine with 25 others.

Amen. Totally agree. Also keep in mind you are just one of many, many teachers out there too.

7. Please help us by turning off the texting feature on your child’s phone during school hours.

If this is a rule in your classroom, enforce it.

8. Guys who dribble a ball for a couple of hours a game can make up to $20 million a year. We educate future leaders and make about $51,000 a year.

Stop whining about your paycheck. Let's stay focused on Dakota shall we?

9. We take on the role of mother, father, psychologist, friend, and adviser every day. Plus, we’re watching for learning disabilities, issues at home, peer pressure, drug abuse, and bullying.

You may take on some of those roles but that's NOT OK for many mothers, fathers and psychologists. As for the rest of it, what of it? Isn't that the job you signed up for?

10. Kids dish on your secrets all the time—money, religion, politics, even Dad’s vasectomy.

And? So? What's your point. Kids tell parents the stupid things teachers say and do in classrooms too.

11. Please, no more mugs, frames, or stuffed animals. A gift card to Starbucks or Staples would be more than enough. A thank-you note: even better. How about a no gifts policy? People in the private sector rarely get gifts for doing their job.

12. We love snow days and three-day weekends as much as your kid does.

Duh! Remember, parents have to go to work when it snows too.

13. The students we remember are happy, respectful, and good-hearted, not necessarily the ones with the highest grades.

What do I care who you remember? Let's stay focused on Dakota shall we?

58 posted on 09/08/2010 10:21:02 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: US Navy Vet

There are some reasonable points mixed in there, but ...

- My wife is an elementary school music teacher ... and is well aware that her job is kinda “cute”.

- Good teachers generally don’t complain about the money. Teachers make GOOD money for 9-months of work. Good teachers that are smart know that they should complain about the Union, who insists that bad teachers be paid the same as good ones. Merit-pay is how the world works ... and scarcity drives the market. It is more difficult to find a guy that can hit .330 and slug .550 off major league pitching than it is to find a good Kindergarten teacher.

SnakeDoc


59 posted on 09/08/2010 10:21:32 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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To: taxcontrol

The quote was “mother, father, friend, advisor.” I do those things every day. I’ve never been asked to teach anything sexual, and that goes well beyond the roles of “mother, father, friend, and advisor.”


60 posted on 09/08/2010 10:21:47 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

When I was in college, there was a HS football team with twin OT’s named October and November, because they were born within minutes, but in the separate months.


61 posted on 09/08/2010 10:26:28 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Complaining about getting gifts. I know when my kids were little, they picked out the gifts themselves, and they picked things that they thought a teacher would like. I thought it was very sweet of them. I don’t really care if the teachers get tons of them; they should be appreciative of the fact that a little kids thinks that much of them to pick out a gift.

Then they compare their salary to a professional basketball player. That’s just a stupid comparison.

Also, they complain about kids not playing outside. Well, the reason my kids have not played outside after school is because they have always had too much homework. If they play outside first, then they are too tired to do their homework. When my kids were in elementary school, bedtime was 8. They would get home around 4:30 and just decompress for about half an hour. We had to eat by 6 in order to have time to get baths. Most of the time they spent from 5-6 doing homework. Now, in middle and high school they spend more than an hour. Only my high schooler is on the computer a lot, but considering he has over a 4.0 and does theater, I don’t care how much time he’s on the computer.


62 posted on 09/08/2010 10:26:32 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: OldDeckHand

“Plenty of fresh engineers would LOVE to be making $51K, or working AT ALL.”

What engineer can’t get hired out of school?

PS Nice retort to the teacher, although I must note that many teachers seem to have arms long enough to:
1. Grab their monthly checks faster than a frog grabbing a passing bug.
2. Drag their knuckles as they slouch down the school halls.


63 posted on 09/08/2010 10:28:11 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: SoftballMominVA

My point is that teaching morality IS the job of mother and father and not that of the school or the teacher.

I have pulled my children out of what amounted to a gay and lesbian appreciation day at school.

I and several other parents made such a stink about President Obama’s speach last year that the school reversed itself and cancelled all related activities.

I have had my 3rd grader come home in tears because the allowance money that they spent on getting a special set of rainbow colored pencils was taken by the teacher and put in the class school supply chest so everyone could have a rainbow pencil.

These are actions that go far and above what teachers should be doing and I’m fed up with the schools focusing on everything else that amounts to propaganda and not teaching.


64 posted on 09/08/2010 10:32:40 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: GladesGuru
"What engineer can’t get hired out of school?"

It depends what kind of engineer, but there are some that can't find any work - like mechanical engineering which is really depressed right now because of the lack of building and the downsizing of America's manufacturing base.

We just had a waiter who's going into his last year at Miami, who was telling us that most of his friends who graduated this past spring still haven't found any employment in their professional field.

65 posted on 09/08/2010 10:37:40 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: US Navy Vet

People are naturally sympathetic to and cooperative with their child’s teacher. The teacher’s unions try to use those feelings to press their agenda, which does not have the best interests of the children at heart.

Never confuse an individual teacher with the union. The teacher may be an ally (if you are lucky), but the union is, and always will be, your enemy.


66 posted on 09/08/2010 10:38:07 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (You can force me to recycle, but I will NOT sing the song!)
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To: karatemom
My most cherished possession is the big, think purple folder in which I keep every letter written to me by a student or parent. On those cold, dreary winter days, I get a hot cup of coffee and read each one of those letters and reflect on the writer.

You sound like a very good teacher. :) As I mentioned in my other post, I wrote a letter to the editor of our weekly paper to thank my daughter's teacher for what she did. Teachers who care, as you do, make such a huge difference in a child's life.

67 posted on 09/08/2010 10:39:14 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (my former tagline "We can, and we will prevail" doesn't fit with the usurper's goals.)
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To: proud American in Canada
I just wanted to add—I guess I just found that line about “no more mugs or frames” really irritating. The article is so cynical.

My wife is a teacher. Thank God she doesn't get mugs and/or frames any more! Every year we ... for years ... we gave mugs to Goodwill or some other organization. A house only needs so many mugs. Receiving countless amounts of them is what's irritating. Nothing cynical about it.

68 posted on 09/08/2010 10:45:25 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: OldDeckHand

Your second line is an excellent answer to the Obamnable lies being foisted off on us by the Lamestream media.

Since nothing gets built or mined without engineers, if the engineers can’t get work, obviously that is because those who make things or mine are not making or mining much.


69 posted on 09/08/2010 10:46:54 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: al_c
A house only needs so many mugs.

LOL, good point. I guess I hadn't thought of that. :)

70 posted on 09/08/2010 10:47:53 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (my former tagline "We can, and we will prevail" doesn't fit with the usurper's goals.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I told half of those things to my sister-in-law when her kid was 5, trying to convince her to take an active roll in her kids education. Now her kid is 26, never managed to hold down a job for more than six months, and is by and large the moron I told her he’d become if she left it all up to the schools.


71 posted on 09/08/2010 10:52:32 AM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: luckystarmom
Complaining about getting gifts.

That one, maybe I can give you. Still, a little more thought on the parents part wouldn't hurt.

Then they compare their salary to a professional basketball player. That’s just a stupid comparison.

No, it's a value comparison. What's stupid is that we've elevated professional sports "stars" to the level that they get paid $20 million. I know, free market and all, but it's obscene.

Well, the reason my kids have not played outside after school is because they have always had too much homework.

Kids don't play outside because 1) parents don't feel it's safe anymore and 2) they'd rather be inside with their televisions and game consoles.

I don't buy the too much homework part. Maybe in some cases. Certainly not all, or even most.

72 posted on 09/08/2010 10:52:36 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I only read the Constitution for the Articles.)
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To: US Navy Vet
3. We’re sick of standardized testing and having to “teach to the test.”

My wife teaches in elementary school, In the first year of the state tests she had the same complaint. Now she says she still hates the tests but she says that were it not for those tests many classrooms would be devoid of useful teaching. At least with the tests the teachers have to teach at least a little reading, writing, and arithmetic. For many it is only a little but it is something.

73 posted on 09/08/2010 10:53:35 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: US Navy Vet
4. Kids used to go out and play after school and resolve problems on their own. Now, with computers and TV, they lack the skills to communicate. They don’t know how to get past hurt feelings without telling the teacher and having her fix it.

Yeah, mine would like to go play, but they are loaded up with so much homework, it makes it impossible some days. How about we do the work in school and the evenings are family time?!

74 posted on 09/08/2010 10:53:47 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: OldDeckHand

Regarding testing: my brother-in-law teaches at a school where the annual turn-over in students is 90%. Most of the kids he has now will not be in his class in April. Most of the kids there in April will arrive in his class over the next 6 months. And his results are evaluated the same as someone who teaches in a stable setting, with kids there multiple years in a row.

My sister used to teach refugee kids. Most didn’t know English at the start of the year, and a big part of her job was teaching them to stand in line, no fighting, and basic English. And every April, her kids would be tested on standard tests - and she would be compared to classes across the state. In some cases, she just told the kid to mark all answers “A”, since the kid couldn’t read any of the questions.

Standardized tests have a role to play, but they are becoming the end all of teaching even though there aren’t many standard classes.


75 posted on 09/08/2010 10:54:29 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: luckystarmom

I just wrote the same thing about homework. There’s way too much of it.


76 posted on 09/08/2010 10:54:48 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: OldDeckHand
Listen to what you're saying. The test isn't the problem, the problem lies with the teachers and the school administrators who allow the time to be spent the way it is.

Not sure what it's like where you live, but here the administration is the one calling the shots. Teachers follow the orders from them to teach for the stupid tests. They have little or no say in it. They get stressed out. The students get stressed out. The administration doesn't get it. They only want the money and status that comes with the high test scores. Idiots! If they would allow the teachers to really teach the students, they would KNOW the material for the tests.

77 posted on 09/08/2010 10:54:56 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Peter from Rutland
Some of it is valid.

And some of it is whining. Sound like a typical well-balanced employee to me.

78 posted on 09/08/2010 10:55:18 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: proud American in Canada

How did those photo albums improve the kids’ academic skills? Could teacher have spent that time actually teaching the kids something useful, like multiplication facts? or grammar?


79 posted on 09/08/2010 10:56:23 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Raider Sam
whoa! A Halloween and All-Saints Day set of twins - you could know which was the evil one even before he could grow the telltale goatee!
80 posted on 09/08/2010 10:57:06 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: OldDeckHand
Guys who dribble a ball for a couple of hours a game can make up to $20 million a year. We educate future leaders and make about $51,000 a year.

I've heard that ridiculous complaint before. I always respond, "When thousands of people start showing up and paying to watch you teach class, I'll pretend your comparison is serious."

81 posted on 09/08/2010 10:58:16 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: OldDeckHand
"8. Guys who dribble a ball for a couple of hours a game can make up to $20 million a year. We educate future leaders and make about $51,000 a year."

Seen Congress lately; teach? You're the one that is overpaid...EPIC FAIL!!!

82 posted on 09/08/2010 10:59:38 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: al_c
"Teachers follow the orders from them to teach for the stupid tests."

Make no mistake, I'm not insulating the administration from criticism. Perhaps there are changes that need to be made in the testing regimen. But, the tests in and of themselves aren't a bad idea. If the administration of the test needs to be improved, so be it. But it's pretty clear that the wrote line coming from the unions is that all testing is bad, and they are not the tool that should be used to measure teachers. That is just facially wrong, IMHO.

83 posted on 09/08/2010 10:59:51 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Busywhiskers
That is $51,000 for 9 months of work. It doesn’t include the generous public retirement benefits that allow a lot of teachers to retire in their fifties, unlike most private sector people.

That may be true for union areas. My in-laws are retired teachers in TX. Both retired in their 60s. They don't have much money at all, but that's the way it was while they were working and raising 4 kids. Actually, only one of them worked while raising their kids. So they're used to getting by on very little. Good thing since that's what they're getting in retirement.

84 posted on 09/08/2010 11:01:01 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: proud American in Canada
Teaching is hard, yes, but they also get a three-month vacation.

But the good ones work a 12-hour day when you include grading and prep done at home.

85 posted on 09/08/2010 11:01:22 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

So, you don’t believe the subjects covered by the standardized tests are useful for the kids? The problem is that standardized tests tend to be focused, at least in Florida, on traditional academic subjects while teachers in the classroom would rather concentrate on sex ed and homosexual promotion and hugging trees and such. My wife is a teacher. I have been in other classrooms. Without those tests there would not be much three Rs taught at all in lots of classes and in some whole schools. And Florida is much more traditional academics oriented than, say, Massachusetts where my grandson, alas, is in public school.


86 posted on 09/08/2010 11:03:05 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: OldDeckHand
Make no mistake, I'm not insulating the administration from criticism. Perhaps there are changes that need to be made in the testing regimen. But, the tests in and of themselves aren't a bad idea. If the administration of the test needs to be improved, so be it. But it's pretty clear that the wrote line coming from the unions is that all testing is bad, and they are not the tool that should be used to measure teachers. That is just facially wrong, IMHO.

No unions here in TX. And these tests are not for the evaluation of the teachers. They use these tests for quality ratings. The higher the ratings, the more money they get from the govt. They don't benefit the kids or the teachers, IMO.

87 posted on 09/08/2010 11:03:44 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: US Navy Vet

Now we know where Obama learned to whine so much...


88 posted on 09/08/2010 11:04:59 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: All
1. If we teach small children, don’t tell us that our jobs are “so cute” and that you wish you could glue and color all day long.

Even if I do glue, color, fingerpaint, and cut out projects all day long, except for naptime, playtime, and meal time.

2. I’m not a marriage counselor. At parent-teacher conferences, let’s stick to Dakota’s progress, not how your husband won’t help you around the house.

One wonders just how many Dakota's there are out there.  Read number nine (9) to see what this teacher's self-proclaimed duties are.  Psycholigst and advisor seem to indicate this person is eminantly qualified to be a marriage counselor too.

3. We’re sick of standardized testing and having to “teach to the test.”

How about teaching children what they are supposed to know at their grade level so they can pass the test without teaching what is in it?  What a novel idea...

4. Kids used to go out and play after school and resolve problems on their own. Now, with computers and TV, they lack the skills to communicate. They don’t know how to get past hurt feelings without telling the teacher and having her fix it.

I thought children were supposed to get these skills at public school?  It's the first thing public school folks bring up when parents opt for home schooling.  "But do you realize how their social skills will be damaged by not coming into contact with other children in the school setting?"  One more big lie...

5. When I hear a loud belch, I remember that a student’s manners are a reflection of his parents’.

So when a kid wets or craps in their pants, you know right where they got that don't you.  While that's not a manner, you're quick to blame behaviors of the children on behaviors they've seen their parents exhibit at home.  No, children do childish things.  That includes belching Miss Child Expert.

6. Your child may be the center of your universe, but I have to share mine with 25 others.

A little bitter are we?   And why shouldn't a person's child be the center of their universe?  Are you as unconvinced as I am by this point, that you are great teaching material?

7. Please help us by turning off the texting feature on your child’s phone during school hours.

How about asking the children to keep their phones in their lunch bags turned off?  You could opt to ask them to keep their phones turned off, if the lunch bag option doesn't apply.  How long would this take you, fifteen seconds?  Thirty seconds?  And this is of such import, and is such a massive disruption to your day that you have to address it here?  Wow.

8. Guys who dribble a ball for a couple of hours a game can make up to $20 million a year. We educate future leaders and make about $51,000 a year.

How much do you think teachers should make per year?  $100k?  $250K?  $500k?  A cool million even?  A lot of people in this nation never make $51K per year.

When asked, you folks never fail to state that you are a teacher because you love children and want to make a difference in their lives.  And then you carp non-stop the rest of your life about being mistreated, under-apreciated, and under-paid.  Please, find a new way to make a living.  My children don't need someone like you in their lives.

9. We take on the role of mother, father, psychologist, friend, and adviser every day. Plus, we’re watching for learning disabilities, issues at home, peer pressure, drug abuse, and bullying.

Couldn't have described it better myself.  This is exactly what you think your job is.  Hmmm, what might you have left out here?  It's killing me.  It's right there, tickling my mind, but I can't quite come up with it. Oooooh, that's what it is.  Teaching.

Never has a profession had such a super-inflated ego-driven self-important vision of it's mandate, as today's teaching profession.  It starts in K and extends to our universities.

10. Kids dish on your secrets all the time—money, religion, politics, even Dad’s vasectomy.

And your kids don't?  It might interest you to know that children don't always get those messages as clear as you think.  You might want to take what they say with a grain of salt.  Intead you're worrying yourself about issues at home, because those little darlings deserve better than to have the parents they do.  Only teachers are the perfect creatures placed on planet earth to make sure children are safe.

What do you think those same children are telling their parents at home?  Most parents take those comments with a grain of salt, but you might want to consider this the next time you decide to trash parents on this topic.

11. Please, no more mugs, frames, or stuffed animals. A gift card to Starbucks or Staples would be more than enough. A thank-you note: even better.

Why not just send home a list with the kids.  Oh nevermind, you've already supplied it.  What an ungrateful idot stick you are.  You graciously accept those gifts understanding that the parents did it out of respect for you, take it home, and toss it in the trash.  You stated that a thank-you note would be even better.  Liar!  What would you do with that thank you note?  Keep it forever?  Probably not.  You'd toss it just like the gift that made steam come out of your ears.  Both are expressions of appreciation you ding-bat.

12. We love snow days and three-day weekends as much as your kid does.

Oh my god!  Imagine how unsafe those children are at home on snow days and three-day weekends.  Why those parents that talk in front of them and have personal views that are different than yours will be filing thier little precious brains with unwholesome fodder.  How can you be so uncaring?

13. The students we remember are happy, respectful, and good-hearted, not necessarily the ones with the highest grades.

Translation:

The children that smile at me, treat me as if I were god, and never give me problems are the ones I'll remember
.  And if they don't learn anything at all in my classroom, they're still the best students EVER.

Anyone that can read this list and think it's a sound list, has turned off their critical thinking.

89 posted on 09/08/2010 11:06:50 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

Seems that teachers get trashed too much on here....granted there are poor teachers, but most are genuinely good and doing their best.

State mandated tests are big government on steroids....and it is odd that so many who claim to be “conservative” agree with Ted Kennedy (who pushed “No Child Left Behind” with Bush II). Real conservatives do not get anywhere near something supported by Ted Kennedy. Our schools would be better if we got rid of standardized testing.

And, I always notice that, when politicians cut school budgets....they always cut teachers and things for students....but never the bloated overpaid adminstrators....both GOP and DNC keep those overpaid administrative positions because many end up with jobs in our schools after they leave office.


90 posted on 09/08/2010 11:12:20 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Obama runs things like a Communist Chinese traffic jam)
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To: taxcontrol
I have pulled my children out of what amounted to a gay and lesbian appreciation day at school.

Don't forget 'Obama Day' next Tuesday...

91 posted on 09/08/2010 11:12:27 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: wintertime
Maybe if your parents had though that these conferences were a good thing, then you'd know that "irregardless" is not a word.

Sorry ... couldn't resist.

92 posted on 09/08/2010 11:12:31 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; AngieGal; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself) The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.
93 posted on 09/08/2010 11:12:44 AM PDT by JenB
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To: US Navy Vet

I enjoyed reading the article. I don’t think a lot of it is BS.

Teaching is an easy job to do poorly, but a very difficult job to do well.

In the last thirty years there has been a tsunami of students with “special needs” that are legally recognized and impose certain behaviors upon schools and teachers...often at the expense of the non-special needs student educations. Individual teachers have had no control over the hugely expensive consequences of that demographic, which is relentlessly bused towards their classrooms every September.

To be effective in the classroom a good teacher has to present information on an appropriate level for the individual student. Good lessons are based on such a transformation of subject matter. In doing that effectively the teacher may commit the sin of making it look easy. Many students and parents have ignorantly reacted to that appearance by proclaiming that the process simply IS easy...and that teaching is therefore “easy”...

Teachers attempt to award the credit for a student’s progress just to that student...so much so that, in many cases, the student and his/her family actually seem to believe they accomplished the goal on their own. There was most likely a teacher in the kid’s success story somewhere at the beginning , but often that sub-plot is dropped as the legend endures.

Children are more poorly prepared for classroom levels appropriate for their ages now than ever before. A big reason for this is that parents are not doing their jobs at home. Every day many kids in school are spending more time with an individual teacher than with an individual parent at home. It wasn’t supposed to be this way, and now the teacher is caught in the middle of this destructive social trend.

Such developments (and many others) have radically transformed the occupation of teacher in the last 25 years. Institutionally, we are not addressing these factors with a winning plan. To a taxpayer, the “face” of educational institutions is the teacher...until that changes, teachers will continue to be a critic’s best targets of negative thoughts about schools.

Are there incompetent, lazy, poorly prepared, BS-worshipping, union-hack teachers nearby? Sure!

Are there energetic, charismatic, intelligent, creative, and humane teachers nearby? Sure!

Separating specific examples of both kinds of teachers requires putting down the broad negative brush and closely examining individual cases....the same approach we would want a good teacher to use when his/her students enter the classroom each day.


94 posted on 09/08/2010 11:15:07 AM PDT by doyle
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Seems that teachers get trashed too much on here....granted there are poor teachers, but most are genuinely good and doing their best.

Now, if only teachers had that high an opinion of their students parents.

95 posted on 09/08/2010 11:18:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I don’t get people whining about how crappy & difficult their jobs are and how they don’t get paid much. I can see taking a crappy, difficult job if I was going to be paid a lot. And I can see taking a job that paid poorly if I thought it’d be enjoyable, low-stress, etc. But staying in a difficult, stressful job with low pay & complaining about it, when there are other options? That’s just stupid.

You see the same thing in comments on stories involving bad behavior by cops... whining about how difficult & dangerous their jobs are, and how they don’t make much money. Well, duh — do something else.


96 posted on 09/08/2010 11:23:14 AM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: doyle
Teaching is an easy job to do poorly, but a very difficult job to do well.

That is my favorite quote of the week.

97 posted on 09/08/2010 11:31:16 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: al_c
Maybe if your parents had though that these conferences were a good thing, then you'd know that "irregardless" is not a word.

Sorry ... couldn't resist.
98 posted on 09/08/2010 11:34:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: al_c

Now I know what to get you for Christmas!


99 posted on 09/08/2010 11:40:14 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Peter from Rutland

Dakota is the name of my hubby’s pickup.


100 posted on 09/08/2010 11:45:11 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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