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To: Copernicus
4. Weaver's defense. He ran down the hill to see what dog was barking at. Some guys in camys shot his dog. Started shooting at him. Killed his son. Harris did the shooting [of Degan]. He [Weaver] is in pretty strong legal position."'

It has been a long time since I read the accounts of what happened but the above is entirely wrong IIRC. Randy Weaver was not with his son, Samuel, and Harris who were out hunting. One FBI agent was hidden in the underbrush wearing a ghillie suit. The dog, which belonged to Samuel, started barking at the hidden agent. The agent, fearing exposure, shot the dog.

Samuel shot in the direction the shots had come from not knowing who had shot his dog or whether he and Harris were under fire also. He shot the agent. Samuel was wounded by return fire from the agent. Harris and Samuel ran back to the cabin. I don't recall if Harris carried him back but he was carrying him when he got to the property and put him in a shed near the house. Samuel may have been dead at that point.

31 posted on 09/08/2010 2:35:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: TigersEye
It may refresh your memory to hear Sara Weaver's account on the Hulu webcast of Shatner's Aftermath.

That is what has brought all this bubbling back to the surface, apparently in a fairly big way.

Best regards,

34 posted on 09/08/2010 2:39:28 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: TigersEye

As I recall you post is basically correct except that they were Us marshals, not FBI. The FBI was called in after the Marshall was killed.


35 posted on 09/08/2010 2:41:54 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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