Skip to comments.Imam TV Shock: Moving Mosque Would Endanger U.S. Troops. (Is he threatening us???)
Posted on 09/08/2010 11:55:01 PM PDT by American Dream 246
If we move from that location, the story will be that the radicals have taken over the discourse.
The two of them would make a great team!!
Concerning the burning of the Koran:
Most people start this conversation by condemning the Pastor for burning the Koran because it is inciteful. What they also do is add in one sentence about our free speech and how he has the right to do this.
What is left out is everything else people say afterwards, about how this is anti-Christian, this is against common sense, it will cause riots, it is hate filled, the Pastor is a nut, blah blah
What everyone ends up doing is making a SINGLE sentence on his right to dissent and then 8 or 9 sentences about why it is wrong.
THE POINT: All that does is create an air of APOLOGY to Islam and Muslims. It makes us sound weak, we sound sorry, we condemn one of our own in the same breath we support our own. We end up telling the world we dont want to upset people with the actions of one rude person so please believe the rest of us dont want to hurt you.
It is a HUGE apology attitude to ISLAM in general.
As Richard Cox said, I am glad there is one guy who is telling the truth. And yes, I would not recommend this, but for Gods sake!
WE ARE ABANDONING OUR OWN CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO FREE SPEECH TO PLACATE A RELIGION THAT WANTS TO KILL US AND THEIR ANGER AT THIS IS MORE PROOF THEY ARE A VIOLENT MURDER CULT AND NOT A GENUINE RELIGION OF GOD!!
Vicevich himself, all the 3 hours of his show today when he spoke of it, made one or two sentences in his times of how that guy has the right, but he always said MORE about how he disagreed with the guy and then let most callers speak of how they disagreed with the guy doing it, their Christian faith, inciting riots, blah blah.
By NOT confronting the Islamic world on this, we are ABANDONING our rights as Americans, and THAT is the larger and more prominent issue in all this.
It’s okay to have billy Clubs at a voting booth, but it is not okay to protest a mosque at Ground Zero.
It’s okay to demand that Israel give up land for peace but it is not okay for Muslims to accept Israel’s right to exist.
It is wrong to burn korans in Florida as an expression of disagreeing with Islam, but the US Military burns unsolicited Bibles in Afghanistan
It is wrong to protest a mosque at Ground Zero because it might inflame Islamic sensitivities, yet Islamic followers constantly call for our deaths and riot and burn our flag with no American government interference or comment.
The U.N. is taking steps to make it ILLEGAL to criticize Islam worldwide, yet it is okay to be hateful to any other religion.
Nativity displays and even Christmas Trees are taken down because they offend, Bibles were banned from the Olympic center yet Islamic prayers are now being offered in Hartford Connecticut at the city council.
I pledge to burn whatever the hell I want to burn. mooslims can take a leap. Its called FREEDOM, ahab.
Bravo!! Couldn’t agree more! Showing weakness opens the door to more attacks. That’s why I posted the article about General Pershing. Because Pershing wasn’t weak on Islam there weren’t any more terrorist attacks for 42 years!
The despicable thing about the koran burning is that it appears under a Christian banner. There is nothing Christian about what 'pastor' Larry is doing. If we burn korans in our country, in all likely-hood, they will burn Christians in their countries. If 'pastor' Larry had a real Christian conscience, he would not put his already heavily persecuted brothers and sisters in greater peril.
Opposing this ridiculous stunt is not submitting to the muslims, its picking the right fight. You don't oppose a heinous philosophy by burning its books, you burn its logic instead. Give the mulsims the truth of the Gospel and they will burn their own korans. (ref the Crescent Project www.crescentproject.org/).
“Our national security now hinges on how we negotiate this, how we speak about it.”
He’s speaking to his base of non-Muslim supporters; frightened liberals (is that redundant?).
When you watch the Koran burning controversy, one might erroneously conclude we are a nation dominated by fear. The truth is, only some of us are-the left.
Know what this Mosque and prayers in Hartford are for the US?
LAND FOR PEACE!!!
Very true. Thanks.
God, I wish we had the guts to do something like that today.
We are not prosecuting this war against radical islam to its fullest because we’re too damned afraid of upsetting someone.
“Moving Mosque Would Endanger U.S. Troops.”
The same argument that various appeasers have been using about the Quran/Kuran/Koran burning. Predictable.
I do not give a rat’s ass about the pastor burning korans. I have no respect for islam, nor do I accept the idea that islam is actually a religion. It is a political ideology, like nazism.
That being said, could someone tell why the pastor shouldn’t defer to Petraeus when he advises against the burning? I’m sure a man like Petraeus would not speak about the matter if he did not have the safety of his troops as his concern. Does anyone think that he’s just obeying obozo by denouncing the pastor? Just asking.
So the Obama administration’s position, and this imam’s, appears to be that we can’t offend Islam because there will be violent reprisals.
I intend to remember that next time someone says calling Muslims violent is bigoted.
They are used to saying “the muslim world will explode” and then getting their way. Like the racist charge, that no longer holds any weight. We are past the point of caring if it explodes.
great post Mutt; I have faith in the One True God.
Fox and Friends’ Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade both stated that the Imam was threatening America. I heard his words this morning on radio and that’s what I thought immediately.
He said (and this is not verbatim) “If America doesn’t build this mosque the entire islamic world will rise in outrage.”
Here’s our choice: (1) Do what they say, or (2) They will attack somehow, somewhere (rise in outrage)
Threat is how Islam works...conversions are at the threat of beheadings, tranquility is only on their terms, lying is ok if it advances islam (taqiyah), and once the message has been delivered (dawa) to convert to islam and sharia, after that the only response is attack (jihad). Following the attack sharia will be imposed.
That is the belief system. You can look it up. It is no different than a blueprint for overthrowing other cultures. It is NOT “religion”. It has more in common with any other prescription for overthrowing government (marxist-leninism, mao-ism’s red book)
America wake up. Your least concern is some pastor burning books in Florida. (Although, to his credit, at least he has a clue.)
Give it a rest - we can take care of ourselves.
NEW YORK The imam behind a proposed Islamic community center and mosque near ground zero cautioned Wednesday that moving the facility could cause a violent backlash from Muslim extremists and endanger national security.
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf told CNN that the discourse surrounding the center has become so politicized that moving it could strengthen the ability of extremists abroad to recruit and wage attacks against Americans, including troops fighting in the Middle East.
"The headlines in the Muslim world will be that Islam is under attack," he said, but he added that he was open to the idea of moving the planned location of the center, currently two blocks north of the World Trade Center site.
"But if you don't do this right, anger will explode in the Muslim world," he later said, predicting that the reaction could be more furious than the eruption of violence following the 2005 publication of Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.
I remember when Atlanta hosted the Olympics and Coca Cola created commemorative cans displaying flags of the many nations participating. The muslims through a hissy fit (with implied or implicit threats therein) because the Saudi flag was printed on a can. The Saudi flag has scribble on it which is apparently from the koran. Of course, Coca Cola capitulated. Maybe someone should throw a Saudi flag on the fire...
I bet that can is quite a collectors item.
Building a victory monument in NYC is legal, and good. Burning the Koran in Florida is legal, but bad - and we must agree with them - or else!
Oboma has surrendered. As long as he's in office, we've lost the war on terror. We need a new president.
Vlad knew how to handle Muslims bent on world conquest!
The "moderate" Muslims, like Imam Rauf, are merely playing the their "good" role in the centuries old "good-cop bad-cop" routine of the Islamic Jihad.
It's call the "Cordoba Project" for a reason. Surrender and deserve your dhimmitude. (If you believe the Imam's fairy tales of ecumenical equality during Islamic rule of Cordoba, then take the time to google the names of honest scholars of Islamic history such as "Bat Ye'or", "Andrew Bostom", "Jacques Ellul"....)
” It is no different than a blueprint for overthrowing other cultures. It is NOT religion
Keep preaching that, chaplain. Don’t let up. You might get through to some of the useful idiots around here who are waving the PC flag.
The mistake that we are making is buying into the fact the Islam is a religion and only a religion. Muslims desire for Islam to be the religion and the state. We must deal with Islam as a state, not as a religion.
Islam is a Trojan Horse.
Yep. Why not? This IS a free country. Hopefully, it'll become a ritual every September 11th. It's a declaration of our liberty.
Burning the Koran is not putting our troops in more danger. Trying to fight a politically correct war is.
The Feds should protect his exercise of his rights in the same manner as they protected the ‘artists’ who inflicted “Piss Christ” or "The Holy Virgin" (Dung Madonna) upon Christians.
The Feds should also protect those who exercise their free speech rights to protest the location of the so called “Cultural center” adjacent to Ground Zero. (I think it is stupid, but he does have the right to do it. The feds are supposed to protect us from the Islamofascists. Perhaps they could use a Koran bonfire in Afganistan to lure the vermin out of the hills and kill them?)
You could stake your life on him!
[sorry...that was *awful*]
islam is NOT a religion by the way we recognize religions. islam is no different than communism, Maoism, Naziism. or any other -ism. They demand everything. They yeild nothing. The only way to defeat, once and for all, islam is to totally eradicate it from the face of the planet. They want a war that eventualy they will not win. They will win some battles along the way but they won’t win the war. We will do that. The total subjecation of the infidel is in the “holy” koran. Personaly, I would not have any second thoughts about torching one of those books. It is not the Holy Bible.
My response to this gentleman can best be delivered by a bunch of very loud men from Atlanta, Georgia known as “Stuck Mojo”...
And I believe that it takes more than just burning it to show our defiance. As I posted on another thread I want to encase one in resin along with an unborn piglet.
Or have it in contact with a dog. Burning is fine but making a mockery of what it represents is better, to send a message of total disdain and no respect for a cult that wants only total domination.
A good idea also comes into mind is playing upon the images from the movie 300, we can build a well, use it for any pork remains, bacon grease, dog poop and copies of the Koran.
Let me tell you, if Pastor Jones is a kook, then he is one of the most effective kooks since John the Baptist.
Jones has unleashed the powers of Hell against him merely by threatening to torch one of their Idols.
I suspect that John the Baptist would have had no problems using some false religious relic as fuel to toast locusts over an open campfire. And if anyone complained he would have yelled out "REPENT!
We may be at a crossroads right now. God is working in this situation. I believe we, as a Nation, may be about to cross the Spiritual Rubicon.
But since this reeallly bothers muslims, how about we try this:
Every September 11th, we read the names of those killed in the attacks and throw a koran on the fire. Then, we promise that every American killed by Islamic attacks from now on will have a koran burnt in their honor.
The number of korans that are burnt will be entirely dependent on how well they behave.
Let's turn this around on them...
Explode away, sparky. If the 9/11 Victory Mosque is built, you will see Americans explode with anger.
it is LAND FOR PEACE, right here in America.
If you can find a copy of Hannity's radio interview of Jones yesterday, then listen to him. I heard a really humble guy trying his best to figure all this out through prayer by him and his church. They wanted to do the right thing.
Their main concern, he said, was getting everyone to see how murderous is the islam cult.
He was not a kook, or a grandstander, or a holier-than-thou. Seemed like a really normal guy to me. Sorta like if he was down to grasshoppers, well, that's what he'd go ahead and eat.
Like we didn’t see THIS coming.
which sect/interpretation ??? once they run outta infidels, theyll still need to kill each other to prove whos right...satanic death cult on roids...
Murtha calling U S Marines cold-blooded killers or whatever he said...
I am praying that this attention-seeking, self-serving, cultist kook doesn't endanger the lives of millions.
And I am praying that, if he is a Christian, the Holy Spirit will speak to him in a mighty way and stop him from putting American soldiers, and American civilians at risk for his OWN glory.
Wow! Excellent observation, RB. Maybe with Bibi in town, we can have him negotiate for us so the bullies won't hit us.
Yeah, in many ways he's already done that. But some (Mainly the MSM) are too blind to see. They have covered their eyes and ears so that they can remain blissfully ignorant while Islam slowly takes over the world with threats and acts of terrorism and violence.
I have seen the MSM talk about Islam being the worlds fastest growing religion and the MSM talks about it like it is a good thing. The MSM sees Christianity as the enemy and Islam as their ally is bringing it to its knees.
And the DOJ will be very busy trying to investigate all of the hate crimes against the Muslims.