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Website Pulled on US Church That Wants to Burn Koran (pulled for "anti-Islamic messages")
AFP ^ | Thursday, September 9, 2010

Posted on 09/09/2010 10:36:01 AM PDT by kristinn

The small Florida church that has sparked global outrage with its plan to hold a Koran-burning event had its website pulled from the Internet on Thursday by its host.

Dan Goodgame, a spokesman for the San Antonio, Texas-based web hosting firm Rackspace, told AFP the evangelical Dove World Outreach Center church had, "violated the Offensive Content section of its Acceptable Use policy."

SNIP

Goodgame said officials from the web hosting firm had spoken with Jones on Wednesday afternoon and informed him that he had until midnight to migrate to another site after complaints about "hate speech."

"It was a fairly short conversation in which we reminded him of the accepted use policy," Goodgame said. "He (Jones) said he intended to still post his anti-Islamic messages."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: burnbabyburn; doveworld; koran; rackspace
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So the new standard is no "anti-Islamic messages." The terrorists are winning since Obama became president.
1 posted on 09/09/2010 10:36:05 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Freedom of speech my azz.


2 posted on 09/09/2010 10:38:21 AM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: historyrepeatz

Religion of peace my azz


3 posted on 09/09/2010 10:39:12 AM PDT by fml
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To: kristinn

Well if he does burn the Koran in the spirit of brotherly love I’ll pass water on it.


4 posted on 09/09/2010 10:39:39 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: kristinn

This is no longer the USA.


5 posted on 09/09/2010 10:39:39 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: kristinn

Just 1st step in pulling church websites that speak against homosexuality.


6 posted on 09/09/2010 10:40:15 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: kristinn

Is saying “Death to Islamic Extremist Terrorists” Anti-Islamic hate speech? Is condemning Adolf Hitler “hate speech”?


7 posted on 09/09/2010 10:40:35 AM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: kristinn

I’ve no problem with this, as long as it’s not ‘selectively’ applied to their clients. The ISP has a right to deny service to someone who abuses their Code of Conduct contract.

Now, if this ISP is hosting flag-burning, bible desecrating and hate mongering websites - then we have a problem.


8 posted on 09/09/2010 10:40:54 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: kristinn

The church involved should ask WikiLeaks to host its site.


9 posted on 09/09/2010 10:41:15 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: kristinn

I am sure they would do the same for Christians.... um... okay never mind


10 posted on 09/09/2010 10:41:37 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: kristinn

True.


11 posted on 09/09/2010 10:42:27 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Hodar
"Now, if this ISP is hosting flag-burning, bible desecrating and hate mongering websites - then we have a problem."

In other words, do they host any Islamic websites.
12 posted on 09/09/2010 10:44:42 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: kristinn

So it takes the next step on censorship...Rackspace should be boycotted...


13 posted on 09/09/2010 10:45:47 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: kristinn

And we can all be sure that there would NEVER be anything that qualifies as ‘hate-speech’ on this website: http://www.buzzflash.com/
(also hosted by Rackspace)


14 posted on 09/09/2010 10:46:10 AM PDT by newheart (History is an outbreak of madness--Ellul)
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To: kristinn
So the new standard is no "anti-Islamic messages." The terrorists are winning since Obama became president.

I don't like what the pastor is doing. But this kind of thing pushes me to line up behind him. Its the whole "don't like what you say, defend your right to say it" kind of thing.

One of these days very soon this very tactic is going to be used on us.

15 posted on 09/09/2010 10:46:50 AM PDT by marron
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To: kristinn

You don’t have freedom of speech. That depends on your terms of service with your web hosting company.

Just like FR. You speech is monitored by Moderators, private property, no difference.


16 posted on 09/09/2010 10:47:34 AM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Palter
You don’t have freedom of speech. That depends on your terms of service with your web hosting company.

I agree and I understand. But I expect to see this tactic used to shut down FR itself one of these days.

17 posted on 09/09/2010 10:50:01 AM PDT by marron
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To: kristinn

ya censorhip...no freedom of speech.


18 posted on 09/09/2010 10:50:48 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Palter

You’re missing the point.


19 posted on 09/09/2010 10:51:13 AM PDT by kristinn (Since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: kristinn

I know who I am not going to buy hosting from now.


20 posted on 09/09/2010 10:51:14 AM PDT by dila813
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To: kristinn
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

O and 6 on this one

21 posted on 09/09/2010 10:53:17 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: historyrepeatz

True nothing on you-tube yet????.


22 posted on 09/09/2010 10:53:55 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: kristinn
The terrorists are winning since Obama became president.

***********************

You got that right.

23 posted on 09/09/2010 10:54:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: kristinn

I’m sure Rackspace has twisted its user agreement to ban what the Dove church is doing.

Does anyone have any examples of what “hate speech” Rackspace it accusing them of using, or are they simply referring to the book burning itself?


24 posted on 09/09/2010 10:56:55 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (It's easy being a communist when you're rich.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Nice one. You’re right on target there.

The guy may have gone over the line. If he was supporting violence against Islamic adherents I can see some validity to this. He does sound somewhat suspect. That being said, if he wasn’t doing something inciteful, his views should have been protected.


25 posted on 09/09/2010 10:57:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: kristinn

Huh?? Very simple. Did the pastor or ISP violate their terms of service. Simple contract. No issue of free speech.


26 posted on 09/09/2010 11:00:29 AM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: kristinn

http://www.rackspace.com/index.php

“Welcome to Rackspace. How can I assist you?
You have been connected to Matt W.
Matt W: Thank you for dropping by today. My name is Matt, how can I be of assistance to you today?
Customer: Why did your company pull the Dove Fellowship site?”

...

Still waiting.


27 posted on 09/09/2010 11:01:24 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: kristinn

Global Headquarters
Rackspace
5000 Walzem Road
San Antonio, TX 78218

Sales
Ph: 800-961-2888
Fax: 1-210-312-4700
210-312-4300
www.rackspace.com
sales@rackspace.com

Support
Ph: 800-961-4454
Fax: 210-312-4500
my.rackspace.com

webmaster@rackspace.com

Media inquiries
Rachel Ferry
Ph: 800-961-2888
Fax: 201-312-4100
media@rackspace.com

Legal
Email
Ph: 800-961-2888
Fax: 210-312-4848
legalnotice@rackspace.com

Faxes are harder to ignore than emails. Just sayin’...


28 posted on 09/09/2010 11:01:28 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 593 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: kristinn

Terry Jones’ book, “Islam is of the Devil” is out of stock on Amazon. Either that or Amazon was ordered not to sell it by King 0bozo.


29 posted on 09/09/2010 11:02:50 AM PDT by MissyMack66
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To: kristinn

Well in Arabic, courage = ‘hamas.’ Today, hacking off communications. Tomorrow, heads. Especially if you can persecute your opposition with impunity.


30 posted on 09/09/2010 11:03:01 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: kristinn

Freedom of speech?.....BBBBBWWWWHHHHAAAAHHHHAAAA!....freedom for some, not so much for others.


31 posted on 09/09/2010 11:04:58 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: kristinn

Rackspace hosts a bunch of islamist and leftist sites. No problem with hate speech there.

This entity should be taken down.


32 posted on 09/09/2010 11:08:17 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: kristinn
I'd like to see some evidence. Let them show a statement that demonstrates there was any hate speech there.

Christians teach 'hate the sin' _precisely because_ we 'love the sinner.' Sin hurts sinners. Not fighting against false _ideas and teachings_ that lead others to Hell is, functionally, hating sinners. That doesn't necessarily mean stunts like burning a Koran that you own yourself are a good idea (ie., this is not a persuasive tool), but it pales in comparison to those who do far worse in their name of their own religion or ideology.

33 posted on 09/09/2010 11:08:57 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/lydiablievernicht)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Welcome to Rackspace. How can I assist you?
You have been connected to Matt W.
Matt W: Thank you for dropping by today. My name is Matt, how can I be of assistance to you today?
Customer: Why did your company pull the Dove Fellowship site?
Customer: Hello?
Matt W: Yesterday, Rackspace terminated service to a customer who was in violation of the Rackspace Accepted Use Policy (AUP) with which all Rackspace customers are required to comply.
Customer: Was it for anti-Islamic speech?
Matt W: Unfortunately I can
Matt W: Can’t give you the details
Matt W: For media inquiries, please contact media@rackspace.com
Customer: I’m not with the media
Matt W: I know and I understand that
Matt W: This is the email address that will be able to accept replies to :)
Customer: But I need to know if I get an account with you and post opinions that you don’t happen to agree with - are you going to pull my site?
Matt W: I am sorry you will need to email anything you are needing to the address above and they will respond back
Matt W: Sorry :)
Customer: So you can’t advise me about what I can or can’t post to your servers?
Matt W: Like I said...I can’t give you any details....here is our AUP, if that helps
The agent is sending you to http://www.rackspace.com/information/legal/aup.php.
Customer: Tell you bosses they are siding with the enemies of free speech.
Matt W: I will do
Customer: Have a nice day


34 posted on 09/09/2010 11:09:49 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: kristinn

liberals love censorship almost as much as they love muslims


35 posted on 09/09/2010 11:12:55 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (American Constitutional rights ARE NOT subject to muslim approval)
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To: historyrepeatz
Freedom of speech my azz.

Seems to me that Rackspace as a private company can do whatever they want. Only the government can censor.

Now perhaps the government pressured Rackspace, then that could be an entirely different matter.

36 posted on 09/09/2010 11:13:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kristinn

And you can bet the IRS is going over all of their prior tax forms with a fine-tooth comb.


37 posted on 09/09/2010 11:15:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: anniegetyourgun

Nope. It’s the USSA.


38 posted on 09/09/2010 11:18:10 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: kristinn
ok... then why don't they start pulling the websites that have anti-Christian messages? How about the ones that have anti-Judaism messages? I bet there might be a few out there...

I am getting really sick and tired of this kiss muzzie arse mentality. I don't agree with the Koran burning - it doesn't help anybody learn the truth about the religion of peas, but they are going after this church the way they SHOULD be going after the people behind zero mosque.
39 posted on 09/09/2010 11:18:56 AM PDT by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: dfwgator

Actually I think one can host what one wants. So they just need to move to a different host.


40 posted on 09/09/2010 11:19:37 AM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: Chickensoup

Exactly.


41 posted on 09/09/2010 11:20:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Chickensoup

Freedom of speech is not the right to be heard.


42 posted on 09/09/2010 11:21:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: anniegetyourgun

This is no longer the USA.

YOU ARE CORRECT!

CHRISTIANS ARRESTED at Arab Festival

A trial date has been set for September 16th in District Court in Dearborn, Michigan with four Christians charged with breach of the peace after they tried to share their Christian faith to Muslims at the June 18th International Arab festival.

As the four were taken off to jail, many in the crowd shouted “Allah Akbar” as the four were placed in handcuffs. Robert Muise of the Thomas More Law Center says there is the very strong possibility that a federal Civil Rights case will be filed on behalf of the four Christians.

Muise also says, “It’s evident that the Dearborn Police Department was more interested in placating Muslims than obeying the U-S Constitution.”

State Representative Tom McMillin of Rochester Hills, Michigan has called on Michigan’s Attorney General Mike Cox to investigate the arrest of the Christians, who were exercising their First Amendment rights on public property.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2562655/posts


43 posted on 09/09/2010 11:23:25 AM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: kristinn

Has the Wayback Machine been purged yet?


44 posted on 09/09/2010 11:26:49 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (King: "I have a dream"...Sharpton: "I want a check")
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To: Hodar

Would be interesting to look at all the other websites they host.


45 posted on 09/09/2010 11:27:14 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: All

If you offend Muslims or Homosexuals you migt go to Jail!

Free Speech on Trial – Christians arrested for praying silently at Gay Event
Posted on February 28, 2008.

trial is scheduled to begin today in Elmira, N.Y., and lawyers for the defendants say it will be a test of whether the First Amendment affirmations of freedom of speech and freedom of religion still are valid in the United States.
“Choosing to exercise your First Amendment rights in a public place is not a crime,” Joel Oster, senior legal counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund said. “The government has no right to arrest citizens for exercising their First Amendment rights in public.”
At issue is the arrest of several Christians at a “gay pride” event is Wisner Park in Elmira in 2007. Julian and Gloria Raven and several others entered the park to pray silently for the participants of the event celebrating homosexual behavior.


46 posted on 09/09/2010 11:27:20 AM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: kristinn

This is funny, their page says, “Backed by FANATICAL support”! LOL


47 posted on 09/09/2010 11:29:12 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: kristinn
I'm wondering if there were any other websites that Rackspace removed for hate speech due to the burning of American Flags, or burning of G.W. Bush in effigy, or burning of the Bible, etc, etc,?????
48 posted on 09/09/2010 11:30:10 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: newheart

Excellent catch.


49 posted on 09/09/2010 11:34:08 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: null and void
Global Headquarters
Rackspace
5000 Walzem Road
San Antonio, TX 78218

Ironic that such an unpatriotic, un-American company should be headquartered in San Antonio.

50 posted on 09/09/2010 11:34:33 AM PDT by cynwoody
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