Skip to comments.Secretary Gates Called Pastor Jones, Defense Department Confirms
Posted on 09/09/2010 4:22:50 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell confirmed to the Pentagon press corps that Defense Secretary Robert Gates called Florida pastor Terry Jones this afternoon to express his grave concerns about a planned Koran burning because it could place US military lives at risk.
Morrell said Gates placed a call between 4 and 4:30 p.m. today and engaged the pastor in a very brief conversation."
"The Secretary expressed his grave concerns to the pastor that going forward with the Koran burning would put the lives of American servicemembers at risk, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan and he urged him not to proceed with the burning," he said.
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We’re a nation of cowards. Holder was right. I hope Gates has unbunched his pink panties.
Im sorry I feel sick about this whole thing. This was a non story. It took onebig doofus, and the media went beserk over it. What was the goal? Does everyone feel better. I actually feel worse and think we look weak and ridiculous. We are a laughing stock to the world.
Muslims and their threats win again.
During ww2 people burned books by the germans and the japs no one said a thing saying ohhhhh it might hurt our men and women over seas. Oh please don’t say anything bad about the Nazi and the Japs it might get our men hurt. BS!
Did Gates also make a plea to the religion of peace to cease their murder threats against innocents?
Can we please page General Schwarzkopf now... we need The Bear back!
To condition us into accepting government control of free speech... at least when the speech is against Islam. Just another step in the Islamification of America.
This non-story reminds me very much of the balloon boy fiasco.
We can expect more of this from the idiots in the cablenews business. Namely Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper.
Honor killings in the USA -— no problem.
Terrorism in the USA at Army bases —— no problem
911 Atrocities -— downgraded to ‘no problem’
ROE watered down to ‘plain stupid’ -— no problem
Americans murdered by Islam -— no problem
burn some toliet paper -— STOP THE PRESSES
lets see here, you’re on a battle field in a life or death fight ... how could the risks be higher?
I’d rather have Patton.
“Im sorry I feel sick about this whole thing. This was a non story. It took onebig doofus, and the media went beserk over it. What was the goal? Does everyone feel better. I actually feel worse and think we look weak and ridiculous. We are a laughing stock to the world.”
My wife and I just said pretty much the same things over dinner tonight. Our country is in the hands of politically correct cowards.
EXACTLY what the 1st Amendment was written to prevent: Government intervention in our right to freely speak our minds.
I bet they made him an “offer” he couldn’t refuse. At least this pastor brought a lot of attention to how tolerant muslims are.
So, Gates, 0bummer, and a whole slew of people got their panties upcracked because of one pastor of a Congregation of some 50. Pastor then decided not to burn the Koran after these consultations.......doing this in good faith that relations with Islamists will thereby be improved. Having put the ball in the Islamists’ court (so to speak) what will be their like gestures in return?
Terrorism at Army bases??
That was “workplace violence”...the DOD said so!
"Mr. Jones, remember that little thing called 'Waco'?"
Our “leaders” should have said to the Islamic scum:
“This is our country and people are free to burn books and engage in other acts of free speech if they so choose.”
We are not going to stop them, because it is not within our Constitutionally Limited powers to so.”
“Thus, we aren’t going to do anything about it, and YOU are going to get over it”
I am not in agreement with anyone stopping this Pastor from doing what he had intended to do... and I despise gates and the entire puppet leadership... they are of the weasley clark school of command... but the threat to our guys, forced to operate with both arms tied behind their backs and the enemy allowed anything they wish... is understandable. karzai and his band would more than likely aid our enemies in their evil. One cannot trust any muslim... by their own law... they can lie and even live as a non muslim, if it furthers the cause of islam. We should just nuke them all take any resources that are left... after the glow subsides.
bend over, there’s the answer, tired of that Islamic shaft?
Wake up or perish America..Islam is satanic, islam should not be tolerated as a religion and as a national threat should be kicked out of this country while its still possible, if we as a people don’t have this level of nerve to remove this disease amoung us we are certainly willing to be slaves..
1. Don’t antagonize them;
2. Back down & encourage them!
What a joke our sec of defense is, to demean himself by stooping to dealing with such a person.
Man I need to hear some eloquent profanity and see Military genius at work... be still my heart!
EyeGuy 2012!! ;)
“What a joke our sec of defense is, to demean himself by stooping to dealing with such a person.”
Yeah, I hope he took a bath after talking to those Islamic thugs.
Why? He deals with that pos marxist, muslim, kenyan, usurper face to face.
"My good friends, this is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. And now I recommend you to go home and sleep quietly in your beds."
Game, Set and Match...and End of Story.
If the world doesn't like that, they can Kiss my a...
This entire episode is Hussein s fault and he needs to be held accountable for the damage he has done to this country.
Plenty. There are no front lines and there are shakey Afghan allies to consider. No one has their back when they
are patrolling in villes trying to convince inhabitants not to be afraid of the Taliban.
Noone sitting here safe and sound seems to give a flying f about anyone over there who face danger whilst trying to
accomplish their mission (which is not to nuke everything/everybody FR style).
Uh... Congress didn’t make a law! What’s the problem here?
“Justice kegan has informed me that the US Constitution does not have standing.”
We can burn bibles, American flags, put Christ in urine at taxpayers expense, but no public official gets involved. The most insidious threat to free expression is self-censorship. When the Danish cartoons resulted in attacks on Danish embassies around the globe, only two US newspapers were brave enough to publish any of the cartoons to show Americans what the fuss was about. And the NYT and WP weren't one of them.
We should just pray that it will stir them up in the mid east that way if they shot first we can kill them other wise we will sit around with our thumbs up our butts and do this stupid nation building which as soon as we leave it will be just as before.
The Supreme Court has found that the executive branch and the states are also bound by the First Amendment.
Ishmail vs. Issac, maybe?
Do you know that there have been 2 separate instances where Christian pastors have been arrested for witnessing to muslims here in the US?
It isn’t just the troops that we need to consider. If we lose our freedom of speech, as part of the creeping sharia, then the troops are fighting in vain.
General Patton from War as I knew it.
“One cannot but ponder the question:
What if the Arabs had been Christians? To me it seems certain that the fatalistic teachings of Mohammed and the utter degradation of women is the outstanding cause for the arrested development of the Arab. He is exactly as he was around the year 700, while we have kept developing...”
The only reason we have, or use, our military is to defend our freedom.
Our troops are in Afghanistan to force a change there, not here.
Gates’ action was deeply contrary to his responsibilities.
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammonds book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.
Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.
Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.
When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.
Heres how it works:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States Muslim 0.6%
Australia Muslim 1.5%
Canada Muslim 1.9%
China Muslim 1.8%
Italy Muslim 1.5%
Norway Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark Muslim 2%
Germany Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom Muslim 2.7%
Spain Muslim 4%
Thailand Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France Muslim 8%
Philippines Muslim 5%
Sweden Muslim 5%
Switzerland Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:
Guyana Muslim 10%
India Muslim 13.4%
Israel Muslim 16%
Kenya Muslim 10%
Russia Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia Muslim 40%
Chad Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania Muslim 70%
Malaysia Muslim 60.4%
Qatar Muslim 77..5%
Sudan Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh Muslim 83%
Egypt Muslim 90%
Gaza Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia Muslim 86.1%
Iran Muslim 98%
Iraq Muslim 97%
Jordan Muslim 92%
Morocco Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan Muslim 97%
Palestine Muslim 99%
Syria Muslim 90%
Tajikistan Muslim 90%
Turkey Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of Dar-es-Salaam the Islamic House of Peace. Here theres supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia Muslim 100%
Somalia Muslim 100%
Yemen Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.
Todays 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the worlds population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the worlds population by the end of this century.
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammonds book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.
Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse. The wolves will be herding the sheep!
Obama appointed two devout Muslims to Homeland Security posts. Doesnt this make you feel safer already? Arif Alikhan as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development and Kareem Shora as ADC National Executive Director.
NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just wondering.
Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesnt this make you feel safer already??
Was it not Devout Muslims who flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago?
Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood?
Not me. I’m going to go to Barnes&Noble this week-end and buy me a Koran and toast it myself. We can all do that if we like.
Let me start by saying, I think this Pastor has the RIGHT to burn the Korans, but I think it is NOT the right thing to do.
But, with that being said, I have one question for Gen. Petraeus (sp) and Sec. Gates: Are our men and women in the military, in Iraq and Afghanistan NOT currently in danger?
Dumba$$es! Both of them, when it comes to this whole situation!
It's true that Muslim birth rates are higher than Christian birth rates, however there are many more Christians being added to the world population every day than Muslims because of conversions. The percentage of the world's population that is Christian is the highest it has ever been and is growing significantly faster than the world population at large. The future looks more Christian than Muslim.