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Florida pastor says he's 'rethinking" canceled Quran burning (Can't trust the Muslims)
cnn ^ | 9/9/2010 | cnn

Posted on 09/09/2010 6:02:35 PM PDT by tobyhill

A Florida pastor who called off a Quran burning said late Thursday he was "rethinking our position" after a proposed meeting over the location of an Islamic center near New York's ground zero went unconfirmed.

The dramatic development was one of several twists on a day when President Barack Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates urged the Rev. Terry Jones to call off the Saturday event, timed for the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

During the afternoon, Jones canceled his plan to burn copies of the Quran, based on what he said were assurances from a local Muslim leader that the Islamic center in New York would be moved -- an assertion rejected by the center's visionary in New York.

Jones, leader of the Gainesville, Florida-based Dove World Outreach Center, announced he will travel Saturday to New York to meet with the religious leader behind the planned center, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, about a new location.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: taqiya; taqiyah; taqiyya; terryjones

1 posted on 09/09/2010 6:02:36 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Burn ‘em. And have a pig barbeque too.


2 posted on 09/09/2010 6:03:59 PM PDT by BAW ( I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me.)
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To: tobyhill
You either do it. Or you don't.
3 posted on 09/09/2010 6:05:19 PM PDT by allmost
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To: BAW

Don’t he know, it is OK to lie to a infidel. /sarc


4 posted on 09/09/2010 6:05:49 PM PDT by luv2ndamend (They call themselves greens because they're too yellow to admit they're reds.)
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To: tobyhill
This whole thing is ridiculous but what is more ridiculous is the media frenzy and White House/Government obsession of preventing the pastor from burning the book.
5 posted on 09/09/2010 6:06:03 PM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: tobyhill

There is no deal. Hopefully this dude doesn’t get duped.


6 posted on 09/09/2010 6:06:28 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: tobyhill

7 posted on 09/09/2010 6:06:44 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: tobyhill
o.m.g. this is rich.

For those of you who don't know it already, don't ever underestimate the shrewdness of a Florida cracker. They can make New Yorkers look positively torpid.

8 posted on 09/09/2010 6:07:10 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (burn baby, burn.)
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To: tobyhill

And you thought Brett Favre was indecisive.


9 posted on 09/09/2010 6:07:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: tobyhill

good for him.

As long as there is a mosque planned at ground zero there must be backlashes, the more the better.


10 posted on 09/09/2010 6:08:33 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (American Constitutional rights ARE NOT subject to muslim approval)
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To: tobyhill

I love the smell of Koran in the morning.


11 posted on 09/09/2010 6:09:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2
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To: tobyhill; xzins; HiTech RedNeck
The dramatic development was one of several twists on a day when President Barack Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates urged the Rev. Terry Jones to call off the Saturday event

This whole thing reminds me of a Dr. Strangelove version of the Cuban Missile Crisis. But where the Cuban Missile Crisis was serious, this thing is just plain silly.

Indeed, if the Muslims were sane, then burning a Koran would be a non-event. But by and large Muslims who actually believe in the Koran are certifiably insane and the everyone knows it, but nobody want so admit that they know it. So everyone coddles the Muslims thinking that if they are nice to them that they won't kill them.

But it doesn't work because they are insane.

12 posted on 09/09/2010 6:12:10 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: tobyhill
History of Islam and how they build VICTORY MOSQUES...

The HISTORY OF ISLAM may hold answers to WHY it is so important for Moslems to build that GROUND ZERO MOSQUE..

In 630, Muhammad led 10,000 Muslim soldiers into Mecca and turned the pagans' most prominent spot, the Ka'aba, into the Masjid al-Haram Mosque.

In 634, Rightly Guided Caliph Umar conquered Syria and turned the Christians' most prominent spot, the Church of Job, famous for being visited by Saint Silva in the fourth century, into the Mosque of Job.

In 637, Caliph Umar conquered Hebron and turned the second-most prominent spot in Judaism, the Cave of the Patriarchs, into the Ibrahimi Mosque. (This was repeated by Saladin in 1188.)

In 638, Muslim generals Amr ibn al-As and Khalid ibn al-Walid conquered Gaza and turned the prominent fifth-century Byzantine church into the Great Mosque of Gaza.

In 638, Caliph Umar conquered Jerusalem.

In 691, Caliph Al-Malik ordered the _Dome of the Rock_ built on the most prominent spot in Judaism, the Temple Mount, followed by Caliph Al-Walid building the Al-Aqsa Mosque there in 705.

In 651, Muslims conquered Persia and turned Zoroastrian temples in Bukhara and Istakhr into mosques.

In 706, after Muslims took Damascus from the Byzantine Empire, Caliph Al-Walid turned the prominent Orthodox Church of St. John the Baptist into the Umayyad Mosque.

In 710, Gen. Muhammad bin Qasim conquered Pakistan, defiled the prominent Sun Temple in Multan, which house the great idol "sanam," and erected a mosque.

In 784, after the conquest of Spain, Emir Abd ar-Rahman turned the prominent Visigothic Christian Church of Saint Vincent into the Great Aljama Mosque of Cordoba. After the conquest of Egypt, Caliphs al-Mamun (813-833) and al-Hakim (996-1021) turned prominent Coptic Christian churches and Jewish synagogues in Cairo into mosques.

In 831, Muslims conquered Palermo, Sicily, and Asad ibn al-Furat turned the prominent Church of Saint Mary of the Assumption into the Great Mosque of Bal'harm. In 1193, Muslims conquered Delhi, India, and Qutbuddin Aibak turned the Red Citadel in Dhillika, the most prominent spot of the last Hindu rulers, into the Qutb Minar Mosque.

From 1250-1517, Mamluk Muslims controlled the Golan Heights and used the ancient Synagogue of Katzrin as a mosque.

In 1387, Turkish Muslims conquered Thessaloniki and turned the Katholikon Monastery and the Church of Aghia Sophia, which housed the relics of Saint Gregorios Palamas, into mosques, as Symeon of Thessaloniki recorded: "The greatest number of the buildings of the churches fell to them, of which _the first_ was the Holy Church of the Savior. … These were trampled underfoot and the infidels rejoiced in them. … Most of thhe religious buildings in the city were despoiled, while altars were demolished and sacred things profaned."

On May 29, 1453, Sultan Mehmet II conquered Constantinople and turned the great Byzantine church, Hagia Sophia, into the Ayasofya Mosque. The _largest_ church in Christendom for a thousand years, the church's four acres of gold mosaics were covered with whitewash and Quran verses.

In 1458, Sultan Mehmet II conquered Athens and turned the Greeks' most prominent spot, the Parthenon on Acropolis hill, into a mosque. When Venetian Gen. Francesco Morosini drove the Muslims out in 1687, a cannonball hit the gunpowder stored in the mosque, blowing it up. In the 15th century, Ottoman invaders turned Saint Clement's Macedonian Orthodox Monastery in Plaosnik, Balkans, into the Imater Mosque.

From 1519-1858, Muslim Mughal rulers gained control of India and turned over 2,000 Hindu temples into mosques, including demolishing the Temple of Ram Janmabhoomi in Ayodhya, the birthplace of Rama, and replacing it with the Babri Mosque. India's Mughal Muslim ruler, Jahangir (1605-1627), wrote in Tujuk-i-Jahangiri: "At the city of Banaras [was] a temple. … I made it my plea for thhrowing down the temple … and on the spot, with the very same materials,, I erected the great mosque."

In 1543, Hayreddin Barbarossa's 30,000 Muslim troops wintered in Toulon, France, and turned the prominent Toulon Cathedral into a mosque.

In 1570, under Sultan Selim II Khan, Muslims conquered Paphos, Cyprus, and Gov. Mehmet Bey Ebubkir turned the prominent Christian church into the Great Mosque of Paphos.

In 1571, Muslims invaded Famagusta, Cyprus, and turned Saint Nicolas Cathedral, a rare Gothic church, into the Lala Mustafa Pasha Mosque, and Saint Sophia Cathedral in Nicosia, constructed in 1228, into the Selimiye Mosque.

In 1588, Sultan Murat III turned the Eastern Orthodox Church of Saint John the Forerunner in Constantinople into the Hirami Ahmet Pasha Mosque.

In 1781, after having conquered the Old City of Acre, Ottoman Muslims turned the Roman Catholic church built by Crusaders into the Jezzar Ahmet Pasha Mosque, where a hair from Muhammad's beard is preserved.

In 1923, Muslims expelled Greeks from Turkey and turned Orthodox churches into mosques. In World War II, Nazis allied with Bosnians and turned the prominent Artists' Gallery Museum in Zagreb, Croatia, into a mosque.

In the 1950s, Muslims expelled Jews from Arab lands and turned synagogues into mosques. Algerian Muslims warred against French colonial rule till France pulled out in 1962, after which the Cathedral of St. Philippe was turned into the Ketchaoua Mosque. Violence against Jews caused 30,000 to flee and the Great Synagogue of Oran was turned into the Mosque Abdellah Ben Salem.

In 1974, Turkish Muslims invaded northern Cyprus, and prominent Greek Orthodox churches were turned into mosques. In 1981, Muslim immigrants to the Netherlands converted Amsterdam's historic Catholic Sint-Ignatiuskerk into the Fatih Mosque, and a synagogue in The Hague into the Aksa Mosque.

William J. Federer is the author of: "What Every American Needs to Know About the Quran: A History of Islam and the United States."


13 posted on 09/09/2010 6:12:23 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (IMPEACH Barry Dunham Soetoro aka "Soebarkah" aka Imam Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

one Florida pastor burning a few books causes Interpol to alert 188 countries that the Religion of Peace might kill innocent people over it.

http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/PressReleases/PR2010/PR069.asp

Next time a florida cracker sees a Muslim burn a few Bibles..do you think the cracker will get sympathy if he blows up a few buildings.

this world is nuts right now....


14 posted on 09/09/2010 6:14:14 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Did you include what happened in Lebanon as well? The big thing about Lebanon was that Muslims didn’t initially have the majority in that country.


15 posted on 09/09/2010 6:15:37 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: RummyChick

Just proves what I have long said concerning those voices in Islam.....Islam: Demanding tolerance and giving NONE themselves. =.=


16 posted on 09/09/2010 6:18:07 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Stayfrosty

He can’t be duped since he can revive the burning plans at any time.


17 posted on 09/09/2010 6:20:48 PM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: tobyhill

What you will and what you won’t, aha
What you do and what you don’t, aha
What you can and what you can’t, aha

Hope he makes up his mind soon...


18 posted on 09/09/2010 6:22:04 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: tobyhill

This preacher is either the shrewdest foreign policy expert or is a serendipitous tool for good.

He has out tweaked the powers that be better and to the point than Rush Limbaugh.

When these moments come along, there is always a weakness to the position. The Reverend has the high ground in all directions.

He can stand on the very fundamental ideas that Islam is evil.

He can defend perfectly that Islamists are hypocritical and insincere.

He can demonstrate that the MSM are a bunch of pantywaists that can be suckered.

He can poke the Administration into one on one negotiations.

And, he can always still burn the books if anyone or everyone backs out of any agreement.

Like Patton, what a magnificent bastard!


19 posted on 09/09/2010 6:24:01 PM PDT by burroak
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To: burroak

We should be e-mailing him words of encouragement. He needs to be advised that he was duped, and lied to by these Muslims.


20 posted on 09/09/2010 6:40:08 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: tobyhill

Pastor says he probably will not fail to enjoy missing a meeting with the Imam. But of course that’s only a preliminary take on the situation.


21 posted on 09/09/2010 6:51:46 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: burroak

Roger That and good for him, He needs to burn a whole pile of that toilet paper and throw a few Terrorists on top of the fire


22 posted on 09/09/2010 6:54:10 PM PDT by mongo141
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To: tobyhill
"How about this, instead of their building a mosque next to Ground Zero we build a Ground Zero next to the Grand Mosque in Mecca?"

Freeper muawiyah

23 posted on 09/09/2010 6:58:55 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: tobyhill

to all the liberals and rinos

this man has shown that his burning the korans is a backlash response to Muslimes putting a mosque at ground zero.

Move the mosque and no korans will be burned. want the korans spared? move the mosque. Don;t move the mosque and korans get burned.

Seems more than fair to me.


24 posted on 09/09/2010 7:00:24 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (American Constitutional rights ARE NOT subject to muslim approval)
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To: Cubs Fan

It’s more than fair. He should set the deadline for a response at the exact time the first plane struck the World Trade Center.


25 posted on 09/09/2010 7:04:58 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Reference bump - thanks! ;-) ... :-(


26 posted on 09/09/2010 7:51:26 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: tobyhill

“Can’t trust the Muslims”

This guy must be smarter than he looks. He is certainly smarter that Obama, Hillary Clinton and the rest of the politically correct crowd.


27 posted on 09/09/2010 8:52:19 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

muslim conquer ping


28 posted on 09/10/2010 5:23:10 AM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (End the political class.......TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!!!!)
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