Posted on 09/09/2010 6:22:45 PM PDT by Willie Green
The first 1,000 owners of Nissan LEAF all-electric cars in the state of Tennessee will be eligible for a $2,500 rebate.
And, the rebate will come in addition to the $7,500 tax credit available from the federal government for electric vehicle buyers.
The state’s Governor, Phil Bredesen, announced the new rebate program yesterday, at an event during which a 425-mile network of electric vehicle charging points was unveiled (see this BrighterEnergy.org story).
The rebate is being funded through a $2.5 million provision in last year’s state budget, which uses funds collected from oil companies, and will be administered by Tennessee’s Department of Revenue.
Electric vehicle buyers will have their rebates applied at the time the vehicle is purchased at one of Nissan’s network of Tennessee dealerships.
Along with both the state and federal incentives, the price of a five-door, 100-mile-range Nissan LEAF car would drop to as low as $22,780.
The vehicle’s original recommended retail price is $32,780.
(Excerpt) Read more at brighterenergy.org ...
Won’t be long they will be giving them away...literally.
Oh wait, the AnnointedIdiot will just mandate that we all have to buy/own one before he leaves office..... /s =.=
A 100 mile range car for $22K after rebates and tax credits - unbelievable - yes, unbelievable that anyone would be so stupid - to buy or to make one.
Chevy Volt will cost around $40K with a range at full charge of ...........................................40 miles..............that’s 10K = 10 miles.....yeah, massive rebates will draw eco-idiots.....bet.
They would have to make it less than a third of a tank of gas.
Are these built in China with China parts? /s
Overpriced crap. not/s
Tennessee better start building windmills quick to fuel the Leaves.
It can easily be calculated. Local residential rates in Tennessee are about 7.3 cents per kw/hr. If a car has a 50 hp motor and can go 100 miles in two hours, it will use 50 X 750 watts X 2 or about 75,000 watt-hrs (75kW-hrs), which is roughly how much you have to put back into the batteries.
75 X $0.073 = $5.48 or roughly the same cost and distance that 2 gallons of regular unleaded in an economy car.
http://www.amazon.com/Power-Hungry-Myths-Energy-Future/dp/1586487892
The author nails it as far as the green power fruits & nuts are concerned. This is a well-considered gutting of the whole renewable energy scam.
You are assuming perfect efficiency.
Multiply charger efficiency times battery efficiency times inverter efficiency times motor efficiency.
Now, are you going to run an A/C or a heater? More losses.
What about the 5000 watt amplifiers and sound system with 10 speakers? Can’t be without dat funky beat.
Plus, need to plug in the cell phone charger, and the laptop charger.
Bet this doesn’t have a cigarette lighter.
Doesn’t matter; you couldn’t give these crappy things away with a coupon for a year’s worth of Jack Daniel’s, a hundred t-bone steaks and a live hooker of your choice.
I also assumed that you would need the whole 50 hp at all times, which you most likely will not. So it is about a wash, IMHO.
Well ain’t that special.
I still wouldn’t have one of those POS on a bet.
Not worth it now but if the Democrats get there way gas would probably cost you twice as much, at that point the car might start looking like a good idea. My gut feeling is that is what is going to happen in the near future and that is gas is going to go up, emission testing will be mandatory for all of the U.S. anything to make you buy these new cars, and keep the economy going.< /S>
Oh yeh, TN is nice and flat, so the batts will be very useful on those long flat runs. hehe, what a sucker purchase.
Given the power supply situation, especially if Cap & Tax is passed in any form, any abundance of electric vehicles will be a serious problem.
ummm, (how long would I be able to keep the hooker?)
Seriously, how many books do you think Skippy has read in the past 20 months? (And thumbing lovingly through a well worn copy of the little red book doesn't count)
book....er, bookmark.
Thanks for the tip.
Well I am lost math is not my thing but it seems as if it is yours- so does it mean it would be $2.74 per gallon?
And would the rate would depend on energy rates in your local area? I guess my real questiton is would it be more
expensive than a gas powered car say a small car? I am thinking it would be a bit more espensive.
You are probably correct.
You buy electricity in kilowatt-hours. Locally its’s about $0.073 per kw-hr. A 100 watt light bulb would use 0.1 kw-hrs of electricity in one hour so it would cost you $0.0073 to keep it on for an hour, $0.073 for ten hours and so on. An electric motor consumes approximately 750 watts per hp of power (depending on efficiency it can be quite a bit more) so a 10 hp motor would use 7.5 kw-hrs of electricity in one hour. 7.5kw X 1 hr X $0.073 = $0.54.
But to me more real, figure about 800 watts of consumed power to account for motor inefficiencies and add another 800 watts for things such as the computer and controls to monitor everything, the lights, radio, A/C, etc.
Yes, figuring gas at approximately $2.75 a gallon. So, if you figure in the total current draw of the vehicle, you will probably end up paying more to run it. And yes, electricity rates vary per area. One other thing, commercial and industrial users get rates at a 30% to 75% reduction from the residential rates so it may cheaper to charge at a charging station than at home.
The bottom line is that you will NOT necessarily save money on power costs.
TVA rates, which is mostly hydro and is pretty cheap.
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