Skip to comments.Koran Burning: Pastor's Two-Hour Deadline [ given to Ground Zero Imam ] VIDEO
Posted on 09/10/2010 11:26:36 AM PDT by rface
The pastor at the centre of the Koran-burning row has challenged a New York Imam to call off the building of a mosque at Ground Zero.Pastor Terry Jones and his colleague Pastor K A Paul read out their telephone number live on television and said the Imam has just two hours to respond.
Sky News' US correspondent Robert Nisbet, who was at the news conference, said: "This is absolutely extraordinary.
"It appear that the pastor has reconsidered his earlier deal over the New York mosque."
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VIDEO of Press conference at link
(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...
Drudge now has link to story at Sky top left.
If the imam calls off the mosque at ground zero, the pastor in Fla will forget about the Koran burning.
So if he doesn’t, and the burning takes place, it will be the imam’s fault.
The First Amendment: Either it’s good enough for the Imam AND the Pastor, or the Imam wants the First Amendment only for Muslims.
Break out the popcorn!
I just fail to see how this is a big deal. Why is the media going crazy become some guy is going to burn a Koran? Who ordered the media to do this?
THIS GUY IS A PR GENIUS!
I thought he was travelling up there Saturday to meet face to face?
What does handing out the number do? Just going to get flooded w/calls from every loon on the planet, i.e., prepare for busy signal.
Sounds like a gimmick.
Gee, I wonder who the President is going to side with now?????
/sarc, by the way
Obama will simply vote “present”
This guy just happened along at the right time to fulfill the state run media’s need to boost their new Islamaphobia meme.
Rauf should build his stinking mosque, and Jones should burn the stinking Koran, and anyone offended by either act should be told to act like an adult and GET OVER IT.
Getting offended by someone every once in a while is part of the cost of living in a free society. DEAL WITH IT.
Bingo...ding ding ding
So we know there is one man with some stones left in this country...............
IMHO, that's the worst possible outcome. I'd like to see both the mosque built and the Koran burnt. People need to be taught to grow a thicker skin.
I was not so enamored by this Koran burning at the start of this - but the more I thought and remembered about the assaults against our culture - I say "what the hell - burn away."
Drop The Hamosque or I'll Shoot This Dog
Rauf can TRY to build the mosque. It won’t happen.
Up until early yesterday Pastor Jones had for the most part been rational and theologically coherent in justifying his proposed Koran-burning. Yesterday and today he has jumped the shark.
Jones says Islam is of the Devil yet now he claims to have negotiated with Imams and he expresses outrage that they allegedly lied to him. Which is it?
Jones’ associate, in the video linked above, says in Jones’ presence that burning Korans is wrong. Well, either it is wrong or it is right and if it is wrong then you don’t do it for that reason. On his website Jones posted fifteen reasons for burning the Koran. What happened to those?
Two days ago I thought that Jones might have stumbled onto something interesting and useful. I marveled that he hadn’t screwed it up already. Yesterday and today Jones has made a hash of his mission.
Why not? He's got the law on his side. If he's got the money, what's to stop him?
Who is going to insure it?
I don't agree - I think that the past day or so has done Jones some good.......but I must say I would not be part of his congregation.
I just don’t think it will happen. I think there are people (unions, etc.) who will make sure it doesn’t happen.
What is with flashing The New Republic magazine cover during the video, The New Republic?
Nice point, but “insurance” is illegal under Sharia law.
Freep Mail me if there’s a burning anywhere in LA.
I’m not doing anything tomorrow except watching football.
Can probably squeeze it in during one of the half-times..
Jones has ignited a host of copycat whackjobs all threatening to burn a Koran from the nutjob preacher in Topeka,Ks who pickets military funerals to some other nutjob in Wyoming threatening to burn a Koran on the Wyoming capitol steps.I guess Jerry Springer wouldn’t give them their 15 minutes.
Frankly, I don’t care what the Muslims do. They’ll go crazy no matter what.
I was opposed to this minister’s action because I thought it was, as Ann Coulter put it, unkind.
But I don’t think we should let ourselves be threatened, and if that’s what the Muslims want to do, then we have to fight back.
The bottom line is that the Muslims are holding us hostage demanding we scrap our Constitutional rights to suit them.
If he were lied to by this guy once (presumably, according to his version of events), why is he supposedly going to believe him THIS time (assuming there was indeed a first time)?
Go sell crazy somewhere else!
No, wait, it's all off. It now appears as if the Muslims lied. What a shock. So now we have a deadline for the Imam to call Pastor Jones and 'talk'. Frankly, like many FReepers, I'm getting bored with this whole thing. Like you, I'm sick and tired of endless Muslim 'rage' and their demands for American society to conform to their wishes, which are ridiculous. I certainly don't need another lecture about showing 'tolerance' toward Islam when America has over 2,000 mosques, Manhattan has 100 mosques and our elected officials, up to the president, jump ten feet whenever a Muslim says 'boo!'
Although I remain skeptical of the actual benefit to be derived from burning Korans I'm mighty weary of the thinly-veiled threats from Muslims about the consequences of that act, as if Americans are supposed to cringe with fear. No way, Abdul. This isn't Europe. Just because America made a gigantic error in electing a radical socialist as our president, we're going to fix that and in the meantime, if you don't like the way we live in OUR country, go back to the sand pit you came from.
I agree, someone needs to post that popcorn eating gif ... but there is a Great SNL skit buried here somewhere - commandos rescue those hostages in Iran with a Koran in one hand and a BIC lighter in the other ... just an idea ...
What THINLY veiled?
They are direct threats.
Do as we say or we will kill you.
You can’t get more explicit a threat than that.
Yes, I’m afraid that’s the truth. Sadly, I think the Muslims have got a lot of supporters in this country, at least among the press and the left (that is, our “leaders”). It’s going to be really interesting to see how this shakes out.
I wonder what those 3000 plus souls would think...
...no one gave them a chance to have an option....
..the Muslims ruthlessly sent them fire, and pain, and fear and death.
This guy wants to burn a book....
..the 'religion of peace' sent over 3000 of our citizens to a fiery death....
..not an equal playing field.
That’s how I’m feeling too. I wasn’t in favor of the whole thing, but I’m sorry, I am just sick and tired of letting the Muslims push us around.
I know we should turn the other cheek, and we can do that by not responding to them with the evil they wish to inflict on us (in other words, we won’t go and blow up their civilian buildings or marketplaces or behead their journalists). But we have to stand firm on our basic principles and it looks as if the moment has arrived to “just say no” to Islam.
Why isn’t this getting more coverage? Did the press get scared?
Memo to Pastor Jones:
You can’t make deals with Islamics. For reasons why, read the book before you burn it.
You were hoodwinked once already by the mosque imam, and made to look like a fool before the entire world.
Are you willing to make that same mistake AGAIN?
The West — and Islam — will respect those who do what they say they are going to do.
We all know what you said you’re going to do.
So..... just do it.
Besides being a victory symbol of Islam over Western society; what other purpose could Cordoba House serve?
An amory/depository for another assault on the center of commerce?
A decoy - as in no other martyrs would attack that area of NY?
or just plain old insurance against being attacked by angry Amish?
“I know we should turn the other cheek, and we can do that by not responding to them with the evil they wish to inflict on us (in other words, we wont go and blow up their civilian buildings or marketplaces or behead their journalists). But we have to stand firm on our basic principles and it looks as if the moment has arrived to just say no to Islam.”
“Turning the other cheek” works ONLY with those who may [somehow] be moved and inspired by the actions of the cheek-turner.
If you turn your cheek to a Muslim, he will simply take that opportunity to cut the other side of your throat.
This is the great conondrum The West — and Christians of The West — face. This is an internal “struggle” that must be recognized and then decided upon by Christianity. How Christians, and how Christianity makes that decision will determine the outcome of the war in which we are now engaged.
Christians have been taught to believe that “religion” represents a calming and loving force, both within us as individuals and a spirit of good will to be shown towards all others.
To many Christians, it is inconceiveable (both figuratively and literally) that a “religion” could be anything other than what they believe and know their own religion to be. They cannot fathom that by showing good faith and the Golden Rule to Muslims, that Muslims will not then respond in kind and come to their senses.
They cannot understand that if The West attempts to do this, and attempts to appease Islam in good faith, that Islam will use whatever means necessary to turn the tables on The West and destroy us.
To many if not most Christians, to suggest that the war Islam is waging against The West — and HAS WAGED since its inception — represents an existential conflict between two wholly incompatible belief systems will result in blank stares or expressions of incredulity.
They turn away from the reality that in the war that The West now faces, the only possible path to “victory” will result from The West’s being as intolerant of Islam (and ultimately as violent against it or even moreso) as Islam has shown itself to be against us.
Christians will say that they couldn’t do such things and remain Good Christians.
And there is the nature of the struggle:
Turn that other cheek to Islam — and see what happens.
Or, fight back with a non-Christian ferocity and stake a claim for survival.
Each one of us must face up that internal struggle, and make a choice. There isn’t much time left.
I’ve made mine. I want The West to win. And this time, the end IS justified by whatever means it takes to ensure that victory. There is no other choice.
And — by the way — where’s the Quran and the matches?
has challenged a New York Imam to call off the building of a mosque at Ground Zero.Pastor Terry Jones and his colleague Pastor K A Paul read out their telephone number live on television and said the Imam has just two hours to respond