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China Prepares for World War
Newsmax ^ | 09 Sep 2010 | Lev Navrozov

Posted on 09/10/2010 12:57:45 PM PDT by Publius804

One of the origins of human society can be traced to slavery. Yes, it is the physical ability of one part of society to order another part of it to “do what the rulers want to be done.”

Only a language can explain well to another human being what he or she is expected to do. Slavery thus originated at a certain level of mental development: that of conversation in a mutually understood human tongue.

This level of human development made it possible for humans to wage wars instead of pursuing and killing animals. Gradually, there originated fortresses and fortifications as well as combat vehicles, including ships and aircraft. But slavery could perfectly combine with technological or strategic achievements.

Hitler’s Germany, which attacked Russia, was a slave state, as was Stalin’s Russia, though the word “slave” had ceased to be used officially whether applied to “our heroic troops” or to “our despised enemy.”

The existence of a slave state such as Hitler’s Germany or Stalin’s Russia, and Hitler’s defeat in Russia, could account for the fact that Stalin’s Russia had more military slaves than Hitler’s Germany.

We are now approaching the period when the People’s Republic of China will possess more military slaves than any other country or any alliance of countries acting as a single force.

Indeed, the People’s Republic of China will be able to induct the military slaves of the countries it will conquer into their invasion army.

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1 posted on 09/10/2010 12:57:47 PM PDT by Publius804
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To: Publius804

The Chinese might nuke us one day but they won’t invade us....I hope.


2 posted on 09/10/2010 1:02:22 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus

Unless they’ve been dumping Chinese in the Panama Canal area, it will be very difficult to do without losing most of them along the way.


3 posted on 09/10/2010 1:05:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: unkus

I believe they are resource-driven...


4 posted on 09/10/2010 1:05:59 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Publius804

What makes this even more dangerous is that the Chinese will have Russian nukes and the former USSR backing them, as well as 500 million plus people in Latin America. And the Middle East Muslims will back them as well.


5 posted on 09/10/2010 1:06:05 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Thunder90

Will the Chinese army be the one that defeats Islam?


6 posted on 09/10/2010 1:09:26 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: stefanbatory

I believe they are resource-driven...


One day soon the Chinese will make the Japanese of the 1930’s look like choir girls.


7 posted on 09/10/2010 1:10:09 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Thunder90

and in the meanwhile BO has taken America out of the equation thereby allowing a void to be filled. China loves that... its their great leap forward!


8 posted on 09/10/2010 1:12:36 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: himno hero

Not completely, however, China’s neighbors are seeing it for what it is and beginning to band together. India and SK just this past week worked out a couple of memoranda of understanding. India has also been working more and more closely with Japan. Even Vietnam is getting in on the act.

The USA is not totally out of this equation, but we have less to lose in a likely scenario from China than these countries do so their motivation is far greater.


9 posted on 09/10/2010 1:17:21 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Publius804

The Chinese are human locusts nothing more.


10 posted on 09/10/2010 1:17:48 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Thunder90

I see Russia as China’s enemy, not their ally. China’s huge army cannot move by sea, it is a land force. To the south lies South-East Asia, already heavily populated. The Chinese lost a border war to Vietnam a few years ago. They won’t go in that direction. To the west lies mountains and deserts, inhospitable for infantry. The only place for it to march is north, into Siberia and Eastern Russia.


11 posted on 09/10/2010 1:18:03 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: unkus

A few years ago I had a discussion with a client on some historical parallels between today’s Mainland China and Japan during the maybe early 1930’s. Major industrial expansion with state control, military expansion, and looking to extend the “sphere of influence”.

Russia may look to help China, for some short term gain. Bet your bottom dollar though that China is also eyeing the resources in Siberia. Russia has been taking the short term view IMHO and aligning with the dog that may likely turn around and bite.


12 posted on 09/10/2010 1:33:05 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes!)
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To: Publius804

chicom bump for later........


13 posted on 09/10/2010 1:34:25 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: stefanbatory

And a few years back, Australia again formed military forces just for that very reason...potential threat from China.


14 posted on 09/10/2010 1:37:05 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: massgopguy
Will the Chinese army be the one that defeats Islam?

Nostradamus, is that you?

15 posted on 09/10/2010 1:48:14 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: unkus

China as the cause of the next WW? Absolutely a possibility, and we can lose our cities and so many millions of people in a nuclear holocaust within minutes. That’s the real risk beyond the left’s policies of bankruptcy and disarmament.


16 posted on 09/10/2010 1:50:15 PM PDT by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Couldn’t they launch a surprise invasion by packing 20 or 30 container ships holding 10,000 containers each with 50 or more soldiers plus equipment in each container? 1.5 million troops split among ports on the west coast, east coast and gulf. Air drop another 20,000 special forces at key locations to take control of large airports and key infrastructure. Seems like that would easily overwhelm any formal defense we could mount on short notice.


17 posted on 09/10/2010 1:54:16 PM PDT by JTHomes
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To: unkus

they won’t invade us.... they’ll BUY us !


18 posted on 09/10/2010 1:56:39 PM PDT by traumer
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To: unkus

they won’t invade us.... they’ll BUY us !


19 posted on 09/10/2010 1:56:46 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

sorry - I meant it only once


20 posted on 09/10/2010 1:57:44 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Fred Hayek

Thanks for the good info/insight.


21 posted on 09/10/2010 2:12:13 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Williams

China as the cause of the next WW? Absolutely a possibility, and we can lose our cities and so many millions of people in a nuclear holocaust within minutes. That’s the real risk beyond the left’s policies of bankruptcy and disarmament.


Absolutely


22 posted on 09/10/2010 2:13:10 PM PDT by unkus
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To: JTHomes

Red Dawn!


23 posted on 09/10/2010 2:16:34 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Publius804

Dumbest article of the day award.. Congrats to NewsMax.


24 posted on 09/10/2010 2:18:34 PM PDT by Riodacat (Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." ‹(•¿•)›)
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To: JTHomes
Although I appreciate your outside the box thinking, with all respect, that won't happen.

The largest container ships carry 10,000 twenty foot containers. There are only a handful that hold that many containers. Many are registered to Denmark, a fellow NATO member unless Hussein has thrown them out. I think the Danes would alert us before the Chinese got here.

50 soldiers in a 20 foot container for a ten to fifteen day sea voyage? I can't imagine that. Put a tenth of that number in a container for that length of time and I will let the local VFW contingent take care of them when they storm the port of Long Beach.

These big ships are bagged and tagged long before they approach North America. An air drop? NORAD monitors every plane in international airspace. Not a chance.

While I appreciate your fear of what we used to call "the Chinese menace" you won't be seeing Chinese ground troops on this side of the Pacific any time soon.

25 posted on 09/10/2010 2:24:28 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Riodacat

Thank you!

Huge armies massively attacking in human wave fashion are just so old fashioned. We might as well be afraid of how many charioteers and pikesmen China has.

There’s a name we in the USAF call large amassed groups of troops: TARGETS.


26 posted on 09/10/2010 2:27:05 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Publius804
"We are now approaching the period when the People’s Republic of China will possess more military slaves than any other country or any alliance of countries acting as a single force."

I would not attempt (lack of sufficient facts and lack of absolute certainty to predict) to either defend or oppose the authors prognosis of a long-term military agenda of China, and events that could proceed out of that agenda. But, there is nothing now, or conceivable, to defend the author's idea that against that agenda China would NEVER face "an alliance of countries acting as a single force", matching or besting China's force and in opposition to it.

In fact, the awakening of the "sleeping giant" of China, and its increased willingness to try to "push its weight around" is already awakening the bigger "sleeping giant" of the rest Asia, and in that awakening many in Asia outside China see the U.S. NOT as an "outsider" but as a potential ally, if not already one.

In that latest Asian security summit the majority of summit members voted for an international mechanism to arbitrate the many territorial disputes over the many disputed islands in the South China Sea and the Pacific, while China stood out in lone opposition (preferring the one-on-one diplomatic bullying it prefers) and the U.S. sided with the rest of Asia. Since the voting was non-binding without complete consensus China will try to continue its bullying in such disputes, which will not drive other Asian nations into its warm embrace.

P.S. India can draft as many soldiers as China TODAY (if it felt the security-interest need to) and if China's aging demographics continue it will one day greatly exceed China in that ability.

27 posted on 09/10/2010 2:34:38 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: JTHomes
Couldn’t they launch a surprise invasion by packing 20 or 30 container ships holding 10,000 containers each with 50 or more soldiers plus equipment in each container?

Ever heard of seasickness? Imagine being locked in a box for two weeks with 25-50 puking soldiers. They won't have any fight in them when the doors are opened.

Oh and I guess your 50 soldiers aren't going to be eating or drinking, or relieving themselves of liquid and solid waste materials for those two weeks either while locked in that little box. I understand, they're Chinese, they don't have to do those things if they're ordered not to by officers.

28 posted on 09/10/2010 2:40:48 PM PDT by Cheburashka ("Tomorrow is another day." The first thing they teach you at calendar college.)
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To: JTHomes
Seems like that would easily overwhelm any formal defense we could mount on short notice.

IIRC there was a pretty, sorta, somewhat well-know Japanese Admiral who expressed absolute incredulity when asked whether Japan would want to invade the US, saying something along the lines of having to confront "a gun behind every blade of grass"

Also a Soviet General who, when asked the same question, commented that the US had too many gas stations and Coca-Cola bottles.

Question is, if the ChiComs WERE to invade the US Left, er, West Coast ... would we really want to fight to get it back?
29 posted on 09/10/2010 2:44:39 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Publius804

O’s slave state is growing exponentially. Ours will wear the Chicoms down with demands for tp, sushi and flat screen TV.


30 posted on 09/10/2010 3:01:25 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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To: Publius804
China is a mercantilist country, not strictly an empire. It is building a mercantilist trade sphere of influence in Africa and Latin America. Its only threat to the US is that it is developing a "Monroe doctrine" for Asia, where the US is not invited to influence Asia, or even venture past Hawaii in the Pacific. This doesn't mean it wants or intends to attack us though, so I doubt a war will start strictly between the US and China.

The biggest tempting land target is Siberia. There are whole Chinese cities on the border with Russia, where on the Russian side of the border it an empty plain. The only thing that keeps the plain Russian is their nuclear weapons.

However, a likely scenario would be a war starting with a Sunni-Shia war for the Caliphate (and all the middle east oil). This is getting more likely with the US pullout of Iraq, and Iran's spreading provocations in neighboring countries.

This one can become a world war, as the war would naturally become something of critical importance to everyone in the world.

31 posted on 09/10/2010 3:49:22 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Publius804

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more weird way to approach writing about a subject. You want to say that China is preparing for war and then start talking about slavery??

WTF? Is this public education on display or what?


32 posted on 09/10/2010 6:43:04 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Williams

a nuclear holocaust would be more a matter of weeks and months - and quite terrible....

And I worry that this POTUS wouldn’t even retaliate


33 posted on 09/10/2010 7:18:25 PM PDT by traumer
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To: stefanbatory

if they are resource-driven they may take Canada or Australia...


34 posted on 09/10/2010 7:20:10 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

Siberia is closer and doesnt require a navy...the oil fields of the middle east also do not require a navy...theoretically


35 posted on 09/11/2010 10:29:07 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Russia’s got too many nukes and a serious conventional force, and more importantly, a will to use both of them. The Chinese won’t go that way.

They both would rather go after the softening Western nations.


36 posted on 09/11/2010 10:38:06 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: stefanbatory

Siberia also belongs to a country with lots of nukes, and the will to use them.


37 posted on 09/11/2010 10:40:31 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Thunder90

again, the oil fields of the middle east are a rather tempting target...


38 posted on 09/11/2010 11:09:20 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Cheetahcat

Ya mean lik the “Borg” ?


39 posted on 09/12/2010 12:16:36 AM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

They won’t have to in the numbers being suggested.

If significant seismic events occur along the West Coast, essentially creating a new West Coast, we probably would witness a large Fifth Column advanced from Latin America into the West Coast to occupy it with new political structures being established.

Such an event would likely act as a catalyst for Red Chinese advances using operational art such as the Allies used in Iraq to advance in spearheads from the west coast, by passing most metropolitan areas, and driving deeper into US soil to seize critical lines of communication.

The bulk of the fighting would occur in sparsely distributed, uncoordinated attacks throughout the midwest to west coast, with essentially a No Man’s land being created along the Rocky Mtns.


40 posted on 09/12/2010 12:29:55 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Seismic events trigger seismic changes. Such events could be a year away or a couple of centuries in the future. I’m not holding my breath on that one.


41 posted on 09/12/2010 5:22:33 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: kennyboy509
“Ya mean lik the “Borg” ?”

Kinda, but they also manufacture copied goods at 80% or less of the originals quality and sell them back to the very ones they stole the design from by the ship load.

42 posted on 09/12/2010 8:11:11 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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