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Like It Or Not, The War We Fight Is Against Islam
Gate ^ | 9/11/10 | Ben

Posted on 09/11/2010 2:19:32 PM PDT by Tom Hawks

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Americans need to wake up and understand that we are not at war with just a radical group of Muslims like al-Qaeda, we are at war with a much larger group of people than Americans want to admit. We are now pulling out of Iraq, and Obama claims the battle is now only against a small group of radicals hiding in Afghanistan, yet we should be fighting the enemy all over the world, not just in one little mountainous desert corner. Obama will never admit it, because he himself is a Muslim, but our war is against Islam itself.  That is because Islam itself has declared war on the world. It was a war declared by Muhammad himself, and they have never stopped fighting that war since Muhammad won his first battle in 624 when he won the battle of Badr.
  
All worshipers of Allah;  admirers & emulators of Muhammad, jointly and severally, wheresoever dispersed over the face of the earth, in all their Mosques, Madrassahs and Islamic Cultural Centers are the enemy of the free world, after all they have declared that we are their enemy long before the Twin Towers were destroyed on 911. Islam is currently battling the world in the following places, yet we do battle against them only in Afghanistan now, why?
 

All the above mentioned places are battlefronts in one war: Islam's global conquest of Kuffar (a highly derogatory Arabic term used to refer to non-Muslims) They are not separate, unrelated incidents. Our elected leaders are unaware of this fatal fact, or unwilling to be honest with the public about it. They are unable to perceive the big picture because they have not read and comprehended Islam's canon of scripture, tradition and jurisprudence, or as I said unwilling to tell the truth. 

    What our leaders don't know will cost much treasure and, ultimately, our lives, liberties and culture. All will be lost because they are neglecting our defense.  They don't know who the enemy is or why he is inimical.  They don't know that this enemy can not be placated. It can not be appeased. It will not tire. It will not quit until it has conquered the entire world.

    Muslims are not freemen; they are Allah's slaves, having sold their lives and their earthly prospects to Allah in return for admission to gardens flowing with rivers of wine & honey, with trees of low hanging fruit always in season and full breasted maidens......

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 9thanniversary; america; crushislam; globaljihad; groundzeromosque; islam; muhammad; obama; radicalislam
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This is a great apologetic argument about why Islam is the enemy, not just the fringe groups of Islam like al-Qaeda, and others.

it is quite long, but very informative with a lot of good information with links that will help do battle against those who still think Bin Laden is the problem.

1 posted on 09/11/2010 2:19:34 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

....Sharia is the world wide duty of all Muslims...radical Muslims/moderate Muslims/good Muslims whatever...it doesn’t matter....Sharia is the duty of them all!


2 posted on 09/11/2010 2:23:08 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Tom Hawks
‎"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. " - Winston Churchill
3 posted on 09/11/2010 2:25:57 PM PDT by jessduntno (Flush the Grand Old Potty. Change it top to bottom. Conservatives only.)
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To: STONEWALLS

Exactly.

Truth be told, the moderate Muslims are like the liberal Christians who say God is OK with homosexuality, abortion,etc. etc. etc.

The true followers of Islam are the ones doing all the killing. All one has to do is read the crayon, and they will learn the truth. But who reads anymore?


4 posted on 09/11/2010 2:26:30 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

Americans are just waking up to Islam, mainly since 911.

Ask the Jews from middle-east and Hindu’s in South Asia about what to expect from Islam & Muslims. They have been dealing with them for 1300 years.


5 posted on 09/11/2010 2:26:52 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (Most muslims are not terrorist, but most terrorists are muslims.)
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To: Tom Hawks
Ban the importation of oil. That would put a massive hurting on the lunatics without putting a single American soldier at risk.
6 posted on 09/11/2010 2:30:18 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: jessduntno

Bump!


7 posted on 09/11/2010 2:31:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: Tom Hawks

I said this nine years ago. You cannot mobilize a nation for a protracted war unless you can articulate an enemy, an objective, and victory conditions.

If Bush has said that the muslims are attacking America militarilary, economically, and idealogically, he could have proposed sweeping changes a decade ago that would have found us in better shape today.

By pretending we were at war with some extreme tribe in Afghanistan, he assured a protracted struggle that would result in a muslim ascending to the presidency of the United States.

Hopefully, the next president will understand this, ween us off oil imports, arm Israel to the teeth, and extricate us from this endless police action.


8 posted on 09/11/2010 2:31:07 PM PDT by wizwor (http://danvilledelivery.wordpress.com/)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist
Ask the Jews from middle-east and Hindu’s in South Asia about what to expect from Islam & Muslims. They have been dealing with them for 1300 years.

And unfortunately, the Europeans have forgotten many things, including the fact that it was the Muslims who started the war of the Crusades by killing Christians going to Jerusalem on religious pilgrimages, not the Europeans.

No different than if we start killing any Muslim heading to Mecca during the time of year they are supposed to visit.
9 posted on 09/11/2010 2:31:28 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

We are really not fighting except for Afghanistan, Iraq and the Horn of Africa. We need a better strategery.


10 posted on 09/11/2010 2:31:28 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
We are really not fighting except for Afghanistan, Iraq and the Horn of Africa. We need a better strategery.

I agree, this is WWII, and we need to start fighting like it is.
11 posted on 09/11/2010 2:33:33 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks; Paladin2

I meant WWIII, not WWII.

Oh well, I am sure you know what I meant.


12 posted on 09/11/2010 2:35:09 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: STONEWALLS

If it is not then they are not Muslims.


13 posted on 09/11/2010 2:35:47 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Paladin2

14 posted on 09/11/2010 2:36:35 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Tom Hawks

We could start right here before we get as infested with them, as we are infested with Communists.


15 posted on 09/11/2010 2:37:01 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Tom Hawks; June K.
~~~ 9/11 PING ~~~

At first I thought I saw "Tom Hanks" and was hopeful that Mr 'Hollywood' Hanks had posted here at FR ... but it wasn't to be, with apologies FReeper Tom Hawks for my eyesight mistake.

Otherwise ... Thanks, Mr Tom Hawks for posting this ... we must never forget that 9/11 wasn't the start of the war, but an outrageous escalation of it, and the war is still ongoing. And we didn't start it, Islam did.

-- MM

16 posted on 09/11/2010 2:38:58 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Tom Hawks
Just curious what are your thoughts on this from a previous thread ?

"Mark Bingham Alice Hoagland’s son, Mark Bingham, also died on United Flight 93. He used his rugby skills to help overtake two of the four hijackers. He had decided to fly home early to get ready to attend his good friend’s wedding. After determining that the plane was going to be used as a weapon, Mark joined the group that stormed the cockpit. It crashed into in a field in Stonycreek Township, near Shanksville, in Somerset County, Pennsylvania. Says Alice: [I think about my son] each and every day of my life, and I will never really be the same. I am sorry for the years that have been ripped from me. I am sorry for the grief still felt by all the family members who lost loved ones. Mark died fighting. He died on his feet. 9/11 is a remembrance of a deep loss for me. I also want people to know that my son was a gay man. I want other gay people to be proud of who they are, despite their sexual orientation that might not be well-received. He was one of a small group of men that tried to stop the terrorists. Because he had such fond memories about his days at the University of California, Berkeley, a scholarship fund was established to help one student pay for tuition."

17 posted on 09/11/2010 2:39:31 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist
Ask the Jews from middle-east and Hindu’s in South Asia about what to expect from Islam & Muslims.

According to Pre_sent BamBam, Jews need to start seeing things through the eyes of Hezbollah and Hamas.

Yes, he really said that.

18 posted on 09/11/2010 2:40:14 PM PDT by workerbee (FAIL, BABY, FAIL!)
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To: Tom Hawks
I will borrow this quote..."At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."
19 posted on 09/11/2010 2:40:52 PM PDT by BigFinn (No Islamic mosque on the graves of our fallen.)
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To: Tom Hawks
Islam delenda est! Our Lady of Victory at Lepanto, pray for us!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
20 posted on 09/11/2010 2:41:36 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: Tom Hawks

Americans need to wake up to the Horrible Truth of having a Declared Enemy of America and Her Freedoms and a Confirmed Liar and Hater of Christianity and an Avowed Radical Muslim holding the Highest Office in
America and living in the White House today! Farrakkon called Obozo “ Allah’s Direct Prophet to Islam!” Pook is Toon’s Minister of Religion just this week called for Obozo Hussein to be The Grand Mullah of Islam, Worldwide! The Mad Muslims don’t talk about Infidel Christians, especially Alleged Converts, in such an adoring and favorable way! They usually try to something very horrible to Infidels! Note the three thousand innocent
People who were brutally murdered nine years ago today!


21 posted on 09/11/2010 2:42:14 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: Tom Hawks

If you extrapolate that thought though, you’re saying that ‘serious’ Christians would murder those that don’t believe like they do.

That is a very seriously flawed chain of thought. No muslim is like any Christian. They are fundamentally and diametrically opposed, as muslims demand in the koran, to kill those that don’t convert. The Bible does NOT say anything like that.


22 posted on 09/11/2010 2:46:15 PM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: al baby
Flight 93 is to be commemorated as the start of the resistance.

Apparently only 1/3 of Colonists wanted to be free of England. We are in roughly the same boat.

23 posted on 09/11/2010 2:47:33 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Mr_Moonlight

No problem.

I just wish I had his money... LOL :>)


24 posted on 09/11/2010 2:47:39 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

islam and any other culture cannot peacefully coexist. This has been proven everywhere it’s been tried. Nobody in America, if honest, would admit to wanting to live in a country with a substantial number of muslims. The USA has about a .6% muslim population and the problems are already starting.

If we wouldn’t want to live in an America with 10% or 20% muslims, why does it make sense to have any?

No matter what you do for or to a muslim, at the end of the day you’re still the infidel.


25 posted on 09/11/2010 2:49:36 PM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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To: BunnySlippers

PLACEMARKER ... to never forget who the enemy is. There is no such thing as a moderate Mooselimb.


26 posted on 09/11/2010 2:51:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Mormons, believing they cannot be deceived; nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Tom Hawks
From the article:

"The unlearned lessons of Vietnam:

Plus: Division on the home front can prevent victory over the enemy.
27 posted on 09/11/2010 2:55:40 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: al baby
Just curious what are your thoughts on this from a previous thread ?

Patriots can come in many cloths.

I pray that he asked God to forgive him if his sins before he stormed that cockpit, because as Paul says, no homosexuals will be in heaven.

By that I mean practicing homosexuals. I have many urges, but it is when we act on the urges that are wrong that I am sinning.

Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).

28 posted on 09/11/2010 3:01:46 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

We can now count the DOJ muzzie bunch, Hussein, the Demon-crats and the unions as mortal enemies.


29 posted on 09/11/2010 3:04:01 PM PDT by STD (Witnessing Another Greek Tragedy as Our Chief Executive Implodes.)
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To: spacejunkie01
If you extrapolate that thought though, you’re saying that ‘serious’ Christians would murder those that don’t believe like they do.

Not,

Where does Christ tell Christians to murder indiscriminately if one does not convert, like Mohammad does?

Do not read into something that is not there.
30 posted on 09/11/2010 3:04:54 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: AZLiberty
Plus: Division on the home front can prevent victory over the enemy.

Good point, and another lesson we have not learned, because we allow the MSM to subvert the constitution by supporting the enemy.
31 posted on 09/11/2010 3:07:18 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

You said...

“Truth be told, the moderate Muslims are like the liberal Christians who say God is OK with homosexuality, abortion,etc. etc. etc.”

I say....

The moderate muslims live in total fear for their very lives, for if they go against the koran, or the local imam/mullah, they will be beheaded, stoned, or worse, will have to see horrible things done to their children, all in the name of “allah”.

They cannot leave the faith, they are trapped. We would do them a major favor if we wiped “islam” off the globe. Send this video on to everyone you know!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded


32 posted on 09/11/2010 3:22:33 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Tom Hawks

Plus: Division on the home front can prevent victory over the enemy.

Good point, and another lesson we have not learned, because we allow the MSM to subvert the constitution by supporting the enemy.

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During the Cold War, our “friends” on “the other side of the aisle” constantly sided with and aided and abetted our communist enemies - first the Soviets, later the Cubans and Viet Cong and after that Allende in Chile and then Ortega’s Sandinistas in Nicaragua. Then came Reagan, who drove the Soviets into economic meltdown and final collapse. For the most part, Marxism withered away all over the world.

Now the sworn enemy of our nation is Islam, and our “friends” on “the other side of the aisle” constantly side with Islam at large.

Can we infer that our principal threat is not the enemy at the gates, but the enemy within? Can we infer that is does not matter who or what is the foreign threat, but that the leftist malcontent will ALWAYS make common cause with those who hate us?


33 posted on 09/11/2010 3:23:59 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The bureaucrat is the natural enemy of liberty.)
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To: jacquej

Superb link. Thank you for it.


34 posted on 09/11/2010 3:27:25 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (The bureaucrat is the natural enemy of liberty.)
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To: Tom Hawks
To realize how much Islam hates the West in general and the US in particular, one must only remember how all the Muslim world cheered in ecstasy when 9/11 occurred and every other attack by the Muslims, of which there have been many
35 posted on 09/11/2010 3:31:08 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Tom Hawks
Yep, unfortunately the enemy dwells among our very own soil. I guess the burning of SATAN'S book protest across the Arab nations has scared the crap outta our very own countrymen, YES even DRUDGE has failed to post any pictures I guess he was ALSO scared chitless! WE ARE SO SCREWED I guess these ANIMALS have won the mind game without ever firing a second bomb these past few years after 9-11!!
36 posted on 09/11/2010 3:38:25 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Psalm 144

Thank you, Psalm 144, but I got the link from another good Freeper, who is trying to get the message out.

Do everything you can to post it everywhere, send it to all friends and associates, and beleaguer your congresscritters with it. Ask friends to do the same.

We must let our “leaders” know that we are totally fed up with this “tolerance” nonsense. We do not want to live under Sharia law, which is what Islam demands.


37 posted on 09/11/2010 3:50:04 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Tom Hawks

We didn’t declare war on islam. islam declared war on us, as it has done ever since mad mo came up with his “religion.” islam has always been spread by the point of a sword. This isn’t anything new...

Being Jewish, I find it interesting that the Torah reading for the first day of Rosh HaShana are about how Abraham sent Hagar and Ishmael away.

Mark


38 posted on 09/11/2010 3:52:36 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Tom Hawks

God is bringing millions of young Muslims to our vicinity. American degrees still have prestige, and the brightest and best young people from these nations are studying here. They have come halfway around the world. Why not go halfway across town? It’s so easy to “adopt” foreign students, bring them into your heart and home. Let them see, over the dinner table, that there are Americans who take faith and family seriously. Hollywood has taught the world the contrary.


39 posted on 09/11/2010 3:54:47 PM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: jacquej

We are in total 100% agreement.

I bookmarked the video and will watch it later. I also bookmarked the reference sites mentioned in the caption description under the video.

Thanks again.


40 posted on 09/11/2010 3:54:49 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks

obama=islam


41 posted on 09/11/2010 3:58:01 PM PDT by bt579 ("I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ~Barack 0bama)
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To: workerbee
Jews need to start seeing things through the eyes of Hezbollah and Hamas.

Yes, he really said that.

So obama proposes that Jews need to start murdering innocent men, women, and especially children...

Mark

42 posted on 09/11/2010 3:59:17 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Psalm 144

Amen brother, Amen.

The fifth estate has become our biggest and most dangerous enemy. They have become the the sworn enemy of freedom. I guess we could say they are to Democracy, what the Trojan Horse was to Troy.


43 posted on 09/11/2010 3:59:56 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Dedbone

mark


44 posted on 09/11/2010 4:01:35 PM PDT by Dedbone
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To: jessduntno

maybe that is why 0 returned the Churchill Bust.


45 posted on 09/11/2010 4:07:27 PM PDT by barb-tex (Nov. 2!(Election Day) Dia de los Muertas. ( Day of the Dead), Them or Us. Nov 5, Guy Falkes Day)
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To: Tom Hawks
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ~Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. The Audacity of Hope
46 posted on 09/11/2010 4:13:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I never read the book he is credited with writing.

For argumentative purposes, what page is that quote on?

I need to know because many whom I debate will demand it.


47 posted on 09/11/2010 4:37:30 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
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To: Tom Hawks
On page 261 of the "Audacity of Hope", Mr. Obama wrote: "In the wake of 9/11..., I will stand with the [Muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
48 posted on 09/11/2010 4:40:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: Tom Hawks
Never forget

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. NEVER forget who did this

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It has been nine years since the cowardly, murdering Muslims attacked America, taking over 3,000 innocent lives.

Michelle Obama has an open letter on the White House site reminding us all that September 11th is 'Nationl Day Of Service' day. Obama means to erase the meaning of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks from the American psyche and convert Sept. 11 into a day of leftist celebration and statist idolatry, and an "interfaith day of service".

The Pretender In Chief cannot have Americans remembering what really happened on 9-11-01. As an islamist he must defuse any potential threat to his true religion and denigrate the sacrifices of those who were murdered by his brother Muslims on that tragic day.

Don't let it happen.

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Awesome video tribute every American should watch: Most viewed of any 9/11 video, now in the Smithsonian. Made by a New Yorker who lived through it.

Be sure to read authors,’That Day’, and ‘Anatomy of the Attack’. http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/

Videos are offered on site for a nominal fee.

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‘Every “moderate” Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a “moderate” Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith.’

Dr. Ali Sina

ex Muslim, Authority on Islam

http://formermuslimsunited.americancommunityexchange.org/2010/03/13/exposing-the-myth-of-moderate-islam[/url]

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Muslims dancing in the streets celebrating the murder of 3,000 Americans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k&feature=player_embedded

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“Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.” Barack Hussein Obama

“it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit” Barack Hussein Obama

“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.” Barack Hussein Obama

“The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country” Barack Hussein Obama

“I have lived in a Muslim-majority country... I know, because I am one of them.” Barack Hussein Obama

“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.” Barack Hussein Obama

“Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.” Barack Hussein Obama

“And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.” Barack Hussein Obama

“And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.” Barack Hussein Obama

“Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one’s religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.” Barack Hussein Obama

"And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world...And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.” Barack Hussein Obama

“We are not nor have we even been at war with Islam” Barack Hussein Obama

49 posted on 09/11/2010 4:53:54 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: BigFinn

“...”At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war.”

From earlier post today:

“...September 11, 1683, was the date on which a Christian army defeated the Muslims in the
Battle of Vienna.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2587150/posts


50 posted on 09/11/2010 5:10:17 PM PDT by Bhoy
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