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NRA Nevada endorsements betray Angle and gun owners
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | September 11, 2010 | David Codrea

Posted on 09/11/2010 9:17:17 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

The National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund has released its grades and endorsements for the 2010 election in Nevada. Absent from their assessment: one of the most important campaigns in the country, the United States Senate race between incumbent Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D) and challenger Sharron Angle (R). (Click here to review NRA-PVF grades and endorsements.)

We know NRA announced it will not endorse Reid based on his support confirming anti-gun Supreme Court justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. We also know at the time one of their PR flacks said they would not be endorsing anyone in the race, and I pegged that as "weaselly equivocation."

Why?

As a state-level candidate, NRA gave Angle an "A."

At the same time, NRA gave Reid a "B."

In every grading system I've ever seen, "A" wins.

So how does NRA reward that? By giving the Reid campaign thousands of dollars.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


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1 posted on 09/11/2010 9:17:20 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
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To: Neil E. Wright

Well, the NRA must think that Angle has no chance. Pretty presumptuous.


2 posted on 09/11/2010 9:18:38 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

But they went with O’Donnell?


3 posted on 09/11/2010 9:19:53 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Profit should not be a dirty word in these United States of America)
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To: Neil E. Wright
I surprised they didn't endorse Reid.

It'll be a while before they get more money from me.

4 posted on 09/11/2010 9:21:43 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I couldn’t afford to renew this year. ...I feel better now.


5 posted on 09/11/2010 9:25:28 PM PDT by Tagurit (Are your pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?)
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To: Neil E. Wright

N o longer

R epresenting

A merica

... Sad.


6 posted on 09/11/2010 9:30:57 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: Neil E. Wright

our days of giving to the NRA are over...even with hubby being a life member....


7 posted on 09/11/2010 9:31:20 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Hildy

The NRA also supported the Disclose Act. They are part of the ruling elite. They have been bought off.


8 posted on 09/11/2010 9:35:19 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

They and the gun-grabbers form a symbiotic two backed beast. Neither could get nearly the contributions if the other didn’t exist to stir up the fear among the faithful.


9 posted on 09/11/2010 9:42:21 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I’m pretty sure the NRA intended to endorse Reid, but when the pushback came from members they knew they had a problem. I’m guessing Cox called Reid and that Cox said something along these lines:

“Senator, we really wanted to publicly endorse you, but the neanderthal hillbilly members of our organization threatened mutiny, so we can’t. But, rest assured that we won’t be endorsing Angle either.”

In summary, they haven’t PUBLICLY endorsed Reid, but privately they pretty much have.


10 posted on 09/11/2010 9:44:48 PM PDT by mbs6
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To: Neil E. Wright

Thst Reid ad is disgusting!


11 posted on 09/11/2010 9:48:06 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Neil E. Wright

The NRA is a corrupt organization that is in the tank for Big Government, their resistants to small government folk is not surprising.

Just as they are similarly resistant to state nullification efforts. Their game is for power and influence in a powerful imperial Washington D.C. Not gun rights, Not Constitutional law, and certainly not freedom.


12 posted on 09/11/2010 9:54:50 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Neil E. Wright

On the other hand, the NRA knows that Angle has a shot at winning and their endorsement might leave her open to be labeled as a kook by the state run, liberal “media”.


13 posted on 09/11/2010 9:55:16 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Algore is a politician and a con artist. He is NOT a scientist.)
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To: Monorprise

“Their game is for power and influence in a powerful imperial Washington D.C. Not gun rights, Not Constitutional law, and certainly not freedom.”

Lobbyist aka as Chris W. Cox. They only worry about their own power. NRA dies on to the next victim. This happens every time a group turns over control to professionals.


14 posted on 09/11/2010 9:58:51 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: Monorprise
The NRA is a corrupt organization that is in the tank for Big Government, their resistants to small government folk is not surprising.

Your post would be libelous if it wasn't so obviously ludicrous.

Why don't you tell Chuck Norris, Robert K. Brown, Ted Nugent and the other patriotic members of the NRA Board of Directors how corrupt and in the tank for big government they are? I'm sure their response would be quite interesting if not downright debilitating.

15 posted on 09/11/2010 10:13:54 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: kabar

K, do some research if you will on the muslim terrorist front group C.A.I.R......AND the LONG TIME nra board member, pro open borders....pro faggots queer lover, Grover Norquist.... the nra in bed with a C.A.I.R lobbyist, agenda setter, policy maker and overall heavy hitter like Norquist!!!??? hard to believe. the once great nra....reduced to an islam loving joke? start with Debbie Schussel’s august 2008 col. where she outed the nra. explore on...but you will find it hard to believe what the nra was involved with. stay safe bobby.223


16 posted on 09/11/2010 10:16:48 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Neil E. Wright
It's time for every Conservative in America to pull their NRA Membership and join the GOA (Gun Owners of America).
17 posted on 09/11/2010 10:29:07 PM PDT by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012 or PALIN / DeMINT 2012.......Either is fine with me!)
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To: Prokopton
Why don't you tell Chuck Norris, Robert K. Brown, Ted Nugent and the other patriotic members of the NRA Board of Directors how corrupt and in the tank for big government they are?
Whatcha wanna bet that these guys will NOT be on the Board of Directors, or even members, of the NRA this time next year? They have balls. Something that Wayne LaPierre and Chris W. Cox need to grow.
18 posted on 09/11/2010 10:34:49 PM PDT by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012 or PALIN / DeMINT 2012.......Either is fine with me!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

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19 posted on 09/11/2010 10:43:48 PM PDT by moonhawk (Just blow the flippin' thing up...)
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To: no dems
It's time for every Conservative in America to pull their NRA Membership and join the GOA (Gun Owners of America).

I'm afraid the 4.3 million NRA members will not be adding much to the few hundred thousand members of the GOA. The NRA Board of Directors is full of powerful, conservatives who exercise a great deal of political clout and who have been quite successful in preserving our 2nd Amendment rights, which is what they are in business to do.

20 posted on 09/11/2010 10:45:34 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: no dems

see post my 16.


21 posted on 09/11/2010 10:46:36 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: bobby.223

I agree with you on Norquist. He is best buddies with Keane of the ACU. Norquist has been a supporter of amnesty and guest worker programs and has been effective in keeping the discussion of immigration at CPAC as limited as possible.


22 posted on 09/11/2010 10:54:07 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Neil E. Wright

http://nramembersforangle.com

23 posted on 09/11/2010 10:54:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
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To: no dems
“Whatcha wanna bet that these guys will NOT be on the Board of Directors, or even members, of the NRA this time next year?”

You don't have a clue of what your talking about.

Here's the new ad Chuck Norris made for the NRA just this month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MHpvTj86f0

Ted Nugent is considering running for the president of the NRA.

Put the sauce away and go to bed.

24 posted on 09/11/2010 11:02:09 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton
Time tells all. The heat is going to be turned up on the NRA if Angle loses; just wait and see.
25 posted on 09/11/2010 11:06:01 PM PDT by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012 or PALIN / DeMINT 2012.......Either is fine with me!)
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To: Neil E. Wright
Has the NRA been compromised by DemonRAT operatives who are using it as a tool for the agenda.
26 posted on 09/11/2010 11:21:56 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: jonrick46

Has the NRA been compromised by DemonRAT operatives who are using it as a tool for the agenda?

My last post looks stupid when I forget the question mark.


27 posted on 09/11/2010 11:26:56 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Prokopton

see my post #16 sonny. shove your muslim loving nra crap where the sun don’t shine junior.


28 posted on 09/11/2010 11:32:45 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: no dems

Well, don’t think we’ll be upping our memberships this year!! NRA is throwing gun-owners under the bus!!


29 posted on 09/12/2010 12:26:37 AM PDT by prayin4_swcb (....A nation divided against itself, cannot stand.)
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To: prayin4_swcb; bobby.223

I left the NRA after being a loyal member for 40 years.

I called them immediately after hearing that they were endorsing Reid. Also when they backed Gillibrand in NY.
I sent in my membership card and wrote them a letter telling them not to contact me in the future.

I can’t remember if I thanked bobby.223 for enlightening me about Grover Norquist. If not, THANK YOU bobby.223! That and the Reid-Gillibrand endorsements were the final straw.

I’ll stick with the GOA, JPFO and the Second Amendment Foundation.


30 posted on 09/12/2010 2:45:57 AM PDT by panaxanax (IMPEACH THE MUSLIM MARXIST....NOW!!!)
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To: Still Thinking

Bingo!

The NRA NEEDS the Democrats to keep the threats coming. Job number one is to give them as much support as they can, otherwise the 2nd might well be as respected in Washington as the 1st and the reason for existence of the NRA would be under threat.


31 posted on 09/12/2010 2:52:34 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: bobby.223; Prokopton
K, do some research if you will on the muslim terrorist front group C.A.I.R......AND the LONG TIME nra board member, pro open borders....pro faggots queer lover, Grover Norquist.... the nra in bed with a C.A.I.R lobbyist, agenda setter, policy maker and overall heavy hitter like Norquist!!!??? hard to believe. the once great nra....reduced to an islam loving joke? start with Debbie Schussel’s august 2008 col. where she outed the nra. explore on...but you will find it hard to believe what the nra was involved with. stay safe bobby.223

1) NRA Board Members are elected by members.

2) Debbie Schussel is an Israel-only, anti-Muslim, one-issue advocate exactly like the NRA.

3) By using terms like "faggots" and "queers" you do more harm to our cause than you help it. So lighten up, Francis.

32 posted on 09/12/2010 3:42:05 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Prokopton

“Why don’t you tell Chuck Norris, Robert K. Brown, Ted Nugent and the other patriotic members of the NRA Board of Directors how corrupt and in the tank for big government they are?”

I notice those three were not included in the picture at that fancy new gun range with Reid and LaPierre.


33 posted on 09/12/2010 4:06:06 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: jonrick46

My last post looks stupid when I forget the question mark.
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LOL. Oh my goodness; I didn’t think anybody was that persnickety except me.


34 posted on 09/12/2010 4:24:29 AM PDT by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012 or PALIN / DeMINT 2012.......Either is fine with me!)
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To: panaxanax
GOOD FOR YOU; YOU GO GUY!!!
35 posted on 09/12/2010 4:25:44 AM PDT by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012 or PALIN / DeMINT 2012.......Either is fine with me!)
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To: bobby.223; Prokopton
Ref. your Post #28 to Prokopton: see my post #16 sonny. shove your muslim loving nra crap where the sun don’t shine junior.

YOU TELL HIM!!!

36 posted on 09/12/2010 4:29:10 AM PDT by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012 or PALIN / DeMINT 2012.......Either is fine with me!)
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To: bobby.223; All
see my post #16 sonny. shove your muslim loving nra crap where the sun don’t shine junior.

Bobby, no need to do what the NRA Groupies have done to us for years... name calling is not needed, just keep shining the light of truth on the lies and deception, and we will win in the end.

Just look at the strides we and like-minded Freepers have made over the years in this battle... keep to the high ground my FRiend.

37 posted on 09/12/2010 4:53:21 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: no dems

Ping, see my previous post.


38 posted on 09/12/2010 4:55:46 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Prokopton
I'm afraid the 4.3 million NRA members will not be adding much to the few hundred thousand members of the GOA. The NRA Board of Directors is full of powerful, conservatives who exercise a great deal of political clout and who have been quite successful in preserving our 2nd Amendment rights, which is what they are in business to do.

First Point; The NRA did not start with so many members, and by their recent actions THEY are driving many of their members onto the rolls of other groups. The 2A battle lines have been flexing for years, to me the more the merrier... hopefully in the end it is the 2A that will win out!

Second Point; if there are "conservative" BOD members as you claim... Why am I not seeing them step forward to rein in the NRA's left drift... just sayin.

39 posted on 09/12/2010 5:16:03 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: no dems

yeah - I’ll take that bet


40 posted on 09/12/2010 5:20:17 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Neil E. Wright; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; ...
One can only imagine what creatures like Micheal Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer, Diane Fienstein, the Brady Campaign, etc. would think, reading a thread like this.

Nicely done, good people.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

41 posted on 09/12/2010 6:13:57 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: aumrl
NRA executive director NRA-ILA, Chris Cox, and NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre are liberals and are buddies with Sen. Reid. (see photo below)



Read this awesome puff piece the NRA wrote about Sen Ried in the American Rifleman if you doubt it.
42 posted on 09/12/2010 6:15:33 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: Joe Brower
Why? Surely your forgot the NRA partnered with Sen. Schumer and the Brady Campaign to create the Veterans Disbarment Act (H.R. 2640).

For those not familar with these liberals and their gun grabbing ways:

"The American Legion and the Military Order of the Purple Heart have joined National Association for Gun Rights, Gun Owners of America and dozens and dozens of state and local gun rights groups in opposition to Rep. Carolyn McCarthy and Sen. Patrick Leahy’s massive expansion of the Brady Registration Act, H.R. 2640.

Opposition to H.R. 2640 continues to grow, thanks exclusively to the grassroots activism of gun owners -- like you and me-- across the country. All of the establishment, and notably the institutional gun lobby – that’s the NRA and their Gucci-loafered lobbyists – are supporting H.R. 2640, the McCarthy/Leahy Gun Control Bill. "
43 posted on 09/12/2010 6:20:43 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: Joe Brower
Why are you covering for the NRA when has a history of working with Sen. Schumer and the Brady Campaign?

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. a proponent of gun control legislation, said the chances of Senate passage were “very strong.” He said, “When the NRA and I agree on legislation, you know that it’s going to get through, become law and do some good.”

The bill was the outcome of weeks of negotiations between Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., the most senior member of the House and a strong supporter of gun rights, and the NRA, and in turn, with Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., a leading gun-control advocate."
44 posted on 09/12/2010 6:24:57 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: WaterBoard

Good points that none of the NRA Groupies will acknowledge or answer... instead any time they are challenged, its always the “single issue”, “their the ONLY game in town” or the myriad of other weak defenses that are constantly thrown up (no pun intended).


45 posted on 09/12/2010 6:32:09 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: WaterBoard

BTW nice “handle”, you should give it a little modification with a tag line such as...

WaterBoard (Terrorists, and all sitting Politicians)

Ah. the list is limitless... ;-)


46 posted on 09/12/2010 6:37:58 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Joe Brower
If the NRA is screwing up, we shouldn't castigate them for it? Yeah, a few of the posts on this thread are over the top... But find a thread on FR where there aren't a few.

Let's look at your statement another way:

"One can only imagine what creatures like Micheal Bloomberg, Chuck Schumer, Diane Fienstein, the Brady Campaign, etc. would think, reading about the NRA's support for their fellow Socialists."

Now can you understand the ire?

47 posted on 09/12/2010 6:38:14 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: Dead Corpse
DC, you're one guy I like and respect on this forum, so I'll do my best to give you a complete reply.

"Now can you understand the ire?"

I sure can -- I've shared it, although too many folks here won't want to hear that. And I've taken action as a result; the NRA didn't shift it's stance until many, many members called to express their disgust, and I was one of those callers. Not the first time, and not the last.

Over my lifetime, I have come to realize that there is no organization, not the church, not in business, and especially in government that can be completely trusted. The best we can do is get the best folks we can running those enterprises we endorse, and then stand on their shoulders watching their every action like a hawk for the first sign of malfeasance. For me, that list includes the NRA, GOA, and SAF-CCRKBA, all of which I belong to.

The trend here is, unfortunately, to take only the bad (or at least questionable) things the NRA has done, magnify them a hundredfold, and then shout to the heavens, deliberately and completely ignoring all the good they have done. That's the lie of omission, and like any lie, it has no honor. I guess that's what's bugging me about all this ranting against an organization who, without which, our RKBA would have already been lost. Anyone who denies that fact is living in fantasyland.

I've had my differences with the NRA over the years, and thus it's only too ironic that I find myself speaking in their defense. I am no member of their fan club, despite the prejudiced here who would immediately and unthinkingly label me as such. But this endless litany of attacks is over the top, and despite how busy I've been of late, I finally had to take the time to respond. The ad hominem reactions of some here come as no surprise, but such matters little to me, having faced much, much worse in the real world.

My hope and intention is that, from all this internecine fighting is that we end up with a stronger and less "Washingtonized" NRA. Maybe the GOA will start accomplishing more as well, besides attacking their competitor for donations. The last thing I want to see on our headstone, should we ultimately be defeated, is "We met the enemy and he was us".

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

48 posted on 09/12/2010 7:04:47 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: WaterBoard
The NRA will work with anyone who might benefit gun owners, and in the world of politics, that sometimes means working with ill creatures. Sucks, doesn't it? The NRA worked with the ACLU to fight McCain/Feingold "campaign finance reform", and that eventually worked out pretty well.

As for H.R. 2640, I would be interested in where you got your information. Besides the GOA, that is.

49 posted on 09/12/2010 7:10:10 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower
I have also followed your posts as pretty fair, but when you make statements such as this I have to wonder...

"Maybe the GOA will start accomplishing more as well, besides attacking their competitor for donations" -JB

I suppose you have something that backs this up other than something put out by the ILA or rabid NRA members? Could they not be hammering the NRA like the rest of us... because they are also tired of the duplicity.

50 posted on 09/12/2010 7:11:48 AM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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