Skip to comments.Has the First Amendment Become a "National Security Threat"? (The last sentence says it all)
Posted on 09/12/2010 7:20:03 AM PDT by Kaslin
"This is a recruitment bonanza for al-Qaeda...
Thats how President Barack Obama, in a national television interview on September 9, described the plans of an American Pastor to hold a September 11th Koran burning event at his church in Florida.
Prior to the Presidents TV interview, the Pastor had already been chastised by some of the highest-ranking officials in the Obama Administration. Attorney General Eric Holder had described the Pastor and his plans as idiotic, while Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had stated that it was all disgraceful.
Yet President Obama apparently believed it was necessary to speak about this himself, and try to stop the Koran burning festivities.
If the disgraceful and idiotic private citizen were to carry out his intended disgraceful and idiotic plans, then you could have serious violence in places like Pakistan or Afghanistan the President stated. This could increase the recruitment of individuals who would be willing to blow themselves up in American cities or European cities," Obama explained, adding that "If he's listening, I hope he understands that what he's proposing to do is completely contrary to our values as Americans. That this country has been built on the notion of freedom and religious tolerance..."
These are strong words from the sitting U.S. President, aimed at one, private citizen. And the fact that the stated intentions of one private citizen would draw criticism from the President and his Administration and would touch-off death threats on American lives is seriously troublesome on multiple levels.
First, lets accurately assess what has been at the epicenter of this controversy in the first place. At the time of this writing (Im composing these words on the afternoon of Friday September 10), it is unclear whether the Florida Pastor will stage a Koran Burning event on September 11th, or not. This is to say that the Pastor has only stated his intentions, and we dont know if he will ever carry them out.
Describe the Pastor and his plans in whatever derogatory and demeaning terms you wish. Stupid. Inflammatory. Insensitive. Intolerant. Misguided. Ill-advised. My observation is that the man seems quite inarticulate, and a bit nutty, and I wish the Obama Administration and the worldwide media industry had not drawn so much attention to him (notice that I am not stating the mans name it makes no sense for me to give this character more attention).
Yet this nutty guy is merely speaking his mind and in America, we regard this as constitutionally protected free speech. For much of our nations history, Americans have possessed an attitude that says I may disagree with what you say, but Ill fight to the death for your right to say it..
But we now seem to have turned a corner on this type of freedom. In this instance, some of the most powerful people in our government determined that if this one private citizen were to exercise his legal right to burn copies of a particular book, such an excursion in human liberty would threaten the security of Americans both domestically, and abroad and thus, this one private citizen should not exercise his legal rights.
A President who was more appreciative of the uniqueness of American liberty, might have taken the opportunity to explain that American freedom is a good thing, and that freedom itself is not a problem. Yet when one lacks the discernment as to how to wisely exercise their freedoms, therein lies a problem. That could have been a true moment of presidential leadership - a teachable moment if you will but that is not how President Obama and his Administration has responded to the rhetoric of our nutty fellow American.
Second, the fact that mere rhetoric can incite death to America demonstrations in Afghanistan and can rise to the level of a national security threat says something about the predominant Muslim culture, and President Obamas assessment of that culture.
In June of 2009, our President delivered a now-famous speech at Cairo University, wherein he stated I've come here to Cairo to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world, one based on mutual interest and mutual respect, and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings
Those were beautiful words, words that were perhaps meant to inspire. Yet polling conducted by the Brookings Institute two months ago shows that President Obama faces a near 65% disapproval rate in the Middle East, and the Muslim world remains as hostile as ever towards the West.
If indeed Americans and Muslims shared the common principles of tolerance and dignity of all human beings as President Obama has stated, then American lives would not be endangered because of the words of one man in Florida.
Rather than honestly acknowledging the serious problems of Muslim culture, the Obama Administration has instead chosen to define American freedom as a problem.
Tyranny this way cometh.
“Rather than honestly acknowledging the serious problems of Muslim culture, the Obama Administration has instead chosen to define American freedom as a problem.”
It is a problem when you don’t acknowledge individual rights and liberty. This is perfectly logical to the Communist mind.
Who would have “standing” to bring that before a court?
I fine this quite condescending and unnecessary. Whether someone is adept at public speaking or not doesn't make some one nutty.
Why isn’t the City of NY using eminent domain to “confiscate” the property and set up a homeless shelter.
This is collectivism and the evil theory of "Greatest good" gone amok. By saying what's best for the collective is always what's more important, regardless of how small the decision, we have and will continue to lose freedom after freedom.
One Queston. Why have there been more terror attacts under 0 appeasement policy than GWB?
Kaslin this is an EXCELLENT ARTICLE!!!!! THANK YOU for posting it!!!!!
If a movement uses our "rights" to practice a religion which calls for the destruction of the very country and seminal documents that protects their "rights", they will destroy us and implement Islam and Shari'a Law.
This is the perverted view that Islam is the "Religion of Peace" - a peace which will occur, in their minds, only when Islam is the sole accepted religion, and only when Shari'a Law is used on our shores...then there will be peace, under their definition.
When is enough enough?
Every liberty, every freedom comes at a cost. If the cost of our freedom of speech is an increased need to be vigilant and protect ourselves from those who don’t share, and deeply resent, that freedom then so be it. And that includes the President of the United States and any members of legislative or judicial body whose actions make them an enemy of out freedoms.
Only the insecure strive for security.
The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.
John F. Kennedy
If money is your hope for independence you will never have it. The only real security that a man will have in this world is a reserve of knowledge, experience, and ability.
The instant formal government is abolished, society begins to act. A general association takes place, and common interest produces common security.
And to this August list, we add...
We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
Yeah and Bloomberg would go along with this. /s>
The response from multiple “leaders”, especially the “leader of the free world” (how do you lead what seems not to exist) is far “nuttier” than the pastor in Florida.
Of course we have free speech, citizen.
Here’s is your list of approved words and phrases. Feel free to say any of them.
You might not have realized it, but you answered your own question
This was one of the points the pastor was trying to make*. There's a difference in the way the two religions recommend dealing with insults or harm. Christians turn the other cheek. Muslims react violently.
*As heard in his interview with Hannity last week.
Disclaimer: I am not advocating Koran burning, just relating a salient point.
You’re welcome, and I thought it was too.
I know. It is just a comment on the hypocracy. Has anyone heard if these provacateurs have paid their taxes on this property?
Since that would have no bearing on this situation, I can only interpret that to be an attempt to skirt everyone’s rights.
The existence of islam has no bearing on this situation?
“When is enough enough?”
For the communists (let’s call them what they are) or for the muslim slavedrivers (let’s call them what they are) enough will only be when they rule America and the other ninety nine percent of us are in fact worse off than slaves on a South Carolina plantation in 1800. We will be worse off because unlike the plantation slaves we will have NO monetary value.
As to whether in the end the communists will wipe out the muslims or vice versa, I don’t know but atheistic communists cannot coexist with cultists who worship the moon god unless one submits to the other and that ain’t likely.
Who knows maybe 12/21/2012 really is the end.
This is why, in my opinion, anyone wishing to establish Sharia Law has rejected the central tenet of the American Creed and is not, should not and never will be a citizen of the United States.
Non-citizens should be deported regardless of method of entry.
IMHO...the Left..and the Rinocratic Party... intends to use Islam as the battering ram to break breakdown the First Amendment.
Oops. I read that wrong. So sorry.
If I am not mistaken it was reported that they over $180,000 in property taxes. I could be wrong on the amount though
The last sentence can be explained by accepting that obama is a muslim.
Please pass the following on. I heard it first hand.
A co-worker of my wifes said her ten year old son came home from school on Friday and said they had talked about 911 that day in class. During recess a ten year old muslim kid told him a man who had lost the lease on the Twin Towers had gotten mad and bombed the buildings.
This is what moderate muslims are teaching their children. This is what theyre being taught in those mosques were allowing them to build all over America. In only ten short years these ten year old kids will be TWENTY YEAR OLD TERRORISTS. Yet both parties tell us to be tolerant. In other words were being told to TOLERATE this crap. This country is doomed if a majority dont wake up immediately!
Remember the Symbionese Liberation Army? It started out as a religion.
[quote]Tyranny this way cometh.[/quote]
Yep, and tyranny is going to find out it’s marching into a massive meat grinder. Americans will not simply submit as they hope.
Americans take a lot of crap and shoulder it well. However, when we reach the breaking point, we will tear your punk butt up in ways you have never imagined. The Japanese found out the hard way in 1945.
Message to Islam... you poked what you thought was a hornets nest, you found it was a dragon with an attitude. Our Government would do well to remember that as well. They are here to serve US, not the other way around. I abhor violence but I see our nation being pushed into it. We won’t draw first blood, but it’ll be our enemies that refresh the liberty tree.
Hmm, this is interesting. I have never seen this
I thought you were suggesting that burning the koran poses a clear and present danger. Sorry about that.
No big deal. Hollywood will hold a fundraiser for part of the taxes and the government will waive the rest on the grounds of tolerance.
thanks to the left (and sadly some dummies on the right) muslims now have veto power of our constitutional rights.
If exercising your constitutional rights makes muslimes mad, than you can’t do it.
Donald Defreeze alias Cinque? Yeah I remember that insanity.
I don't know if he commented then or not, but it would be interesting to juxtapose those statements.
“security threat says something about the predominant Muslim culture, and President Obamas assessment of that culture. “
Mr Obama has a skewed perception of Islam...
.....ever wonder why zero is popular with the muslims?
...and if the "religion of peace' cannot abide our freedoms perhaps 1) they are not as peaceful as they say, and 2) it is NOT just the radicals among them that are the problem, it is Islam itself that cannot coexist.
As I've said on FR for 20 months - all things changed on 11/2/08 - nothing is the same. That means the old tactics aren't going to mean anything. In fact, the Left loves it when we admonish people to call, fax, march....
This is another one of those articles that I never thought I would see in my lifetime. They seem to be appearing more frequently.
Looks like Annie got her gun and it’s loaded.
I know, and I feel your pain... pardon the phrase.
Just remember, we have the ballot box, the soap box, and the ammo box. We cannot use the third option unless they use it against us. Once they open that door, we have no choice but to put a stop to it with absolute conviction. I pray that they never go down that road.
Until that happens, we must use our resources wisely and work together to stop the destruction of our nation. Three rules that must always apply to patriots is...
1. Never blindly submit to their will.
2. Always have a plan
3. Never, ever, under any circumstances surrender your means of defense.
And yes, I’m saying that if they ban all guns, we must not submit to such a law. However, we cannot instigate violence. If they do it, fine, it’s their trip to hell. We must continue to maintain the moral high ground.
This line of reasoning springs forth from the mind of a coward, IMO.
Of even more concern, some of our own Freepers could have written that speech for him. I've seen some of the same things posted in messages here. No one, but no one here, wants to heap more trouble on our troops, but the First Amendment is no small issue. If we keep chipping away at the Constitution, they'll have no reason to fight, nothing left to defend in our country. I don't think the troops want to see that come about.
You are so correct in your headline—the last sentence truly says it all. Great column, so glad you posted it!
The taboo we have on bookburning of any kind comes from horror at the practice as done by Nazis; they burned books of all kinds not in peaceful, non-violent protest, but as a means to destroy valuable information by "degenerate" authors, "degenerate" as defined by the madman Hitler; it was the STATE burning books, classic literature, and it was done to control Germans and keep them in ignorance, to hold classic Western knowledge in contempt.
Applying this taboo to burning Korans is very wrong. Burning Korans was the RIGHT thing to do on 911 for many reasons, the primary one being that it was civil, peaceful, and symbolic in showing American resolve to stand and defend American freedom from a creed that openly, brazenly seeks to subjugate Western-style societies to Islam's Sharia law and slavery.
If it was the State that was burning Korans, then we'd damned well better be concerned. But it wasn't -- it was individual Americans who were engaging in PEACEFUL, non-violent, symbolic protest and WARNING to Islam: don't step over this line or this symbolic fire will become literal.
I have come to advocate Koran burning and make no apology for it: burning Korans is a powerful symbolic statement that not only is non-violent and peaceful, but may HELP AVOID BLOODSHED LATER. When Muslims understand that Americans will refuse to roll over and be "civil" ala France, England, and the Netherlands, then perhaps they'll think twice about attacking us on our own soil. We burn Korans in peaceful protest; Muslims kill people in bloody aggression. There is a HUGE difference and peopel who morally equate the two are engagning in self-gratyfing hysteria.