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Boehner: I'll Drop Tax Cut for Rich If I Have To [reality check at post 121]
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Posted on 09/12/2010 8:24:10 AM PDT by roses of sharon

(CBS) The leading Republican in the House, and a vocal proponent of allowing an extension of the Bush-era tax cuts for all Americans, including the wealthiest 3% of earners, objected to charges by President Obama that Republicans are holding tax breaks for the bottom 97% of earners hostage unless the wealthiest also get an extension.

In a pre-taped interview to appear on CBS' "Face the Nation" Sunday, Republican House Minority Leader John Boehner said that, if approving a bill to extend breaks for middle class income Americans were "the only option," he would support it.

The Congressional Budget Office has estimated extending tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans would cost $700 billion over the next decade.

At a speech in Ohio earlier this week, Mr. Obama said, "With all the other budgetary pressures we have - with all the Republicans' talk about wanting to shrink the deficit - they would have us borrow $700 billion over the next 10 years to give a tax cut of about $100,000 each to folks who are already millionaires."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: boehner; bonehead; congress; democratspin; elections; fail; idiot; kneepadrepublicans; mediaspin; republicans; rino; stupidparty; taxes
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201 posted on 09/12/2010 6:08:58 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: musicman
Hi musicman! Everything you said likely makes perfect sense, but it's over my pay grade. I do hope that you're right that Boehner didn't cave-in. I mean, he's not even Mr. Speaker, yet.

I watched the cBS VIDEO of FACE THE NATION, but not without distractions. I need to watch it again. IIRC, Scheiffer seemed mighty pleased with his interview.

FWIW, it's going to take two election cycles to get rid of more rino incumbents, more Marxist democrats, and lastly the Marxist child-in-Chief, so making the Bush tax cuts permanent isn't really necessary, since in two years it would be another good campaign issue right along with repealing obamacare.

202 posted on 09/12/2010 6:16:37 PM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: roses of sharon
Nobody should be fooled into thinking the GOP is a viable governmental alternative to the Democrats. Not as smart and just as full of sh*t...
203 posted on 09/12/2010 6:35:35 PM PDT by April Lexington (WHY)
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To: FreeReign
Reading from the "playbook" my foot! Why post such a waste-of-time, throw-away line.

Because you once again use sich a waste-of-time cliche money analogy which is shallow and meaningless.

He's NOT saying that he will compromise.

OK--so he's saying he doesn't want a tax hike on the rich but he'll go with it. That's not a compromise.

Come back when you understand English.

He is in the minority. He's saying that he will take the partial tax cut and he will fight for the rest of it when he as the majority. He's giving up nothing, he's getting part of what he wants and he going to try to get the rest of it.

I can't take another rerun of the "Let's say you have X dollars" thing so I'll cut this short--Boehner is trying to GAIN a majority. How does one do that in a year of unprecedented opposition to those in power--by saying he'll compromise (which he said he would, whether you understand that or not) OR by telling the country "I'm completely opposed to what this president wants, this is what I want--the Bush tax cuts staying put."

Leadership.

Refusing to let the anchor or the Dems control the discussion.

Showing the tax cuts being kept in place is so crucial to the economy that he doesn't say "Hey, I'll take em all, or some of em, whatever I can get.

You don't get it. Fine. No wonder you're defending him--he doesn't get it either.

Have a good night.

204 posted on 09/12/2010 6:50:23 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: Cheetahcat

Imagine Nancy giving the Gaval to Michele. Or the keys to the jet. I would love it.


205 posted on 09/12/2010 6:53:39 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: onyx

NOTHING is over your paygrade!!....(IMHO)

If Zero “counted his taxes before they hatched” then ALL the estimates the CBO gave were wrong by him planning on NEVER renewing the cuts, and then having to back-pedal.

He CAN NOT EVEN sign a Middle Class Tax Cut, and have the numbers he gave CBO “stand-up”.

He’s already spent the money.

If this is true and the news gets out it could REALLY PO a lot of people who are already mad as hell with him and his economic antics.


206 posted on 09/12/2010 6:59:04 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Brimack34

“Imagine Nancy giving the Gaval to Michele. Or the keys to the jet. I would love it.”

Yes for that I would crawl to the voting booth.


207 posted on 09/12/2010 7:14:25 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Perdogg; DoughtyOne; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; AuntB; calcowgirl; pissant; sickoflibs
to say that GOP is no different that rats in order to suppress the Nov vote

They both ran up trillions in debt; the difference is that the Republicans took years and the Democrats took months.

The end result is the same, except than when Republicans are in charge, the Republican cabal allow Democrats to run amok while they silence small-government conservatives.

208 posted on 09/12/2010 7:25:32 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: roses of sharon

Look John Boehner said if that is all I can get I will vote for it now!!! Meaning when and if the republicans take the house he push for the other Tax breaks also!!!!


209 posted on 09/12/2010 7:49:57 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Darkwolf377
Because you once again use sich a waste-of-time cliche money analogy which is shallow and meaningless.

No. It is shallow and meaningless to you because you don't get it.

OK--so he's saying he doesn't want a tax hike on the rich but he'll go with it. That's not a compromise.

Your description of what Boehner said using the paraphrase, "he'll go with it", is empty of meaning, and it suggests your lack of understanding of what he said and what the situation is.

More specifically, Boehner is NOT advocating for, nor is he voting on, a tax hike for the rich.

By default the Bush tax cuts are expiring. The default position will be higher taxes for all. It's from that higher-taxes, default position, that Boehner must decide what he is going to do. It is from that position, Boehner is advocating for across the board tax cuts. It is from that position, Boehner is saying that he will vote for whatever tax cuts he can get, and then he will try to get some more.

He is making no compromise.

You don't get it. Fine. No wonder you're defending him--he doesn't get it either.

No (lol), you don't get it, and it's simple logic and not Boehner that I defend.

Have a good night.

Gee thanks. Good night to you.

210 posted on 09/12/2010 8:07:57 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: roses of sharon

He ain’t even Speaker yet, and he’s selling us out already! Man, talk about counting your chickens before they hatch. Boehner got ‘em hatched, grown, cooked and eaten, and he don’t even have the eggs yet!


211 posted on 09/12/2010 9:02:09 PM PDT by catnipman
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To: FreeReign

I have to give the dems credit that they have successfully convinced everyone that any family that brings in 250K or more is wealthy/rich. That they should be lumped in wit someone who brings in say a few million or more.

If you live in or near most metro areas, have a few kids, maybe some in college, 250K is a good amount, but it’s not you’re living in the lap of luxury.

For whatever reasons Republicans and conservatives have simply ceded the argument on this to the left. They never defend it. They just let it go unnotiecd that if you make 250K you’re Bill Gates.


212 posted on 09/12/2010 9:13:15 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: Beagle8U

It is not that the government is forced to pay because taxes are cut, it’s that they cannot begin to buy down the debt they have already run up and are paying interest on.


213 posted on 09/12/2010 9:20:35 PM PDT by gleeaikin (question authority)
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To: cripplecreek

Tax cuts are meaningless without spending cuts.


These aren’t tax cuts. They simply continue the rates already in place for 98% of the people. By taking the issue off the table, if the dems actually do present a bill to continue the tax cuts, people won’t be able to blame Republicans that their taxes went up. Republicans will still be able to say the dems raised taxes on job creators in the middle of bad employment numbers and a sour economy. This is a loser for the dems. If they are smart they will continue the tax cuts for everyone for three more years to take it off the table in 2012 also.


214 posted on 09/13/2010 12:27:30 AM PDT by excopconservative
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Aint buying it.A rising tide raises all boats.That is what he should have said.Maintain taxcuts for everyone.Only a rat bastard voter wouldnt agree and who cares about them.


215 posted on 09/13/2010 4:50:02 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Paperdoll

Has anyone else been mystified and dismayed over the rediculously expensive and un funny ads that our dept of health and human services through the Ad Council continues to run on Rush and other talk shows and TV?

I’m thinking these people, with our money, are spending millions of dollars on these rediculously unfunny ads to tout being a foster parent, or to adopt...

Multiply that one thousand fold, and you get the idea of the waste in federal govt.

Yes, withhold the tax cuts from everyone....EVeryone is entitled to the tax cuts. 10 % of Americans pay 70% of the taxes?

I’m sick of this. Everyday there’s something political and personal with this idiot in the WH. It’s like we have a HS president acting as our president...

Shamefull....


216 posted on 09/13/2010 5:14:25 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Praying today for -25, better yet -26......)
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To: musicman

I think your interpretation is correct.

Even though Boehner seemed to offer a compromise yesterday, the rhetoric for Gibbsy last night and this morning is to still demonize the minority leader.

I think the White House blinked.


217 posted on 09/13/2010 5:15:09 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: MustKnowHistory

Oops. That should read “ the rhetoric FROM Gibbsy.”


218 posted on 09/13/2010 5:16:13 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: Perdogg

It’s our knee-jerk culture. I blame Government schools.


219 posted on 09/13/2010 5:26:49 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free ...)
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To: FreeReign
CBS leads...and fools believe.

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220 posted on 09/13/2010 6:32:40 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: rabscuttle385

” the Republican cabal allow Democrats to run amok while they silence small-government conservatives. “

FACT


221 posted on 09/13/2010 6:35:12 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: roses of sharon

IF the house is retaken, why would the newly elected congressmen vote for Boehner?

They would form a block all their own and be king makers.

Why do people who struggle so hard to gain power, never yield it when they have it?

UGH


222 posted on 09/13/2010 7:04:41 AM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz (HALLELUJAH)
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To: Argus

Michelle Bachman for Speaker of the House.

DITTO DITTO DITTO


223 posted on 09/13/2010 7:05:25 AM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz (HALLELUJAH)
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To: roses of sharon

That Democrats want to extend the Bush tax cuts at all must be seen as total capitulation on the philosophical question of whether tax cuts are good for an economy.

The Republicans should ask why exactly are the Democrats willing to cut taxes at all? Aren’t taxes good?

This is why we need principled conservatives instead of Boehner-like get alongs.


224 posted on 09/13/2010 7:46:08 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: roses of sharon
Laura Ingraham played what Obama said in his presser on this topic: Q So are you ruling out a deal with Republicans on tax cuts for the wealthiest? THE PRESIDENT: What I’m saying is let’s do what we agreed to and that the Americans -- people overwhelmingly agreed to, which is let’s give certainty to families out there that are having a tough time. He called us "the Americans" before correcting himself. It sounded like he is literally not one of us.
225 posted on 09/13/2010 8:04:25 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: roses of sharon

First of all stop using the language of the socialists. Tax cuts for the rich is really lower taxes and thus costs, for business owners. What a douche.


226 posted on 09/13/2010 8:06:57 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Better yet, just agree with them and change the dialog to tax cuts for employers.

Just like the rats did by going with progressive...we’ll just change the words we use to describe what we want.

We are against tax cuts for the Rich who will just stash the money away, but are for tax cuts for those hard working american’s who own a business and employee others.


227 posted on 09/13/2010 8:40:24 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ecomcon

Exactly! We need to take this to them. Now that they are agreeing that tax cuts do spur economic growth the question is how big and how widespread.

We can agree that we don’t want to just give the “lazy rich” a tax cut, but the working rich, the small business owners, those that employ others, and those that have the means to move their capital away from being taxed at all should get a tax cut. I guess that just leaves John Kerry as the lazy rich guy to tax :-)


228 posted on 09/13/2010 8:43:40 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: darkwing104
If you give up on this issue, what else will you cave on?

Said in another way

If you don't retreat to fight another day what other small trivial things will you fall on your sword over?

See what I did there :-)

229 posted on 09/13/2010 8:45:49 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: roses of sharon

For a conservative to win the public, he must TEACH the public why THEY are conservative and why conservatism is a winning philosophy.

Ronald Reagan did that. Others have tried...but few can do it the way Ronnie did.


230 posted on 09/13/2010 9:37:54 AM PDT by RockinRight (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: RockinRight

The temptation to be a RINO is too great for ANY Washington insider. If you are out looking for a job, would you rather look among the people who will qualify for Obama’s tax breaks, or among the people who will not? Obama’s tax breaks are calculated gimmicks because he does not understand what makes the economy sound. He is only looking for votes and favors in his actions, but even his supporters are beginning to realize that they need jobs on the earnings side, not temporary gimmicks on the supply side.


231 posted on 09/13/2010 9:44:33 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: RockinRight

For a conservative to win the public, he must TEACH the public why THEY are conservative and why conservatism is a winning philosophy.
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And thats why we’re doomed. But even if a Reagan to the tenth power showed up tomorrow, the best he could do would be to slow the path to marxism. Regan managed to slow it, didn’t gain any ground the other way, and no one will.

The reason I know this is even hard core anti-liberals think that the democrats ideas are well meaning, just bad ideas that wont work. The agenda is to destroy, not fix, and once everyones options to opt out of their collective hell are destroyed it’ll be the only choice.

You see these people arguing his policy won’t improve the economy, and the other side arguing how it will, like improving it is even the objective.


232 posted on 09/13/2010 10:46:02 AM PDT by Jimmah
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To: roses of sharon

“Rich” and “weathly” are conveniently maleable terms useful to the socialists in power. Incomes considered middle-class today will likely be deemed “weathly” tomorrow based on nothing more than a whim of the Imposter-in-Chief.


233 posted on 09/13/2010 11:25:33 AM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“Another “meet em halfway” Roy Blunt type.
What a disappointment.”

I would be happy with half way. This compromise (like almost all compromises with the rats) is really ceding almost everything to them. The whole idea of separating the rich and non rich is Marxist speech. The tax code is so convoluted even without this last compromise. Imposing confiscatory taxation on the most productive will seriously undermine the economy.


234 posted on 09/13/2010 11:41:23 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Perdogg

The Democrats would love for us to eat our own right before the November elections. This kind of infighting is what they want!

Boehner’s actual quote doesn’t seem unreasonable to me. It’s the reality of the situation. Obama won’t sign tax cuts for the “rich”. But if he vetoes tax cuts for the poor and middle class, then he really looks like the bad guy. This is good for Republicans.


235 posted on 09/13/2010 12:21:44 PM PDT by kamikaze2000 (You can lead a liberal to truth, but you can't make him think.)
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To: roses of sharon

When I heard Boehner make his asinine comment about extending tax cuts for we little people, but not on the ‘wealthy’, I sent him an email explaining the facts of life as we, the unemployed, see them.

I told him that if he allowed the tax cuts to expire on those making over 250,000, we unemployed folks will remain unemployed.

Let me see: Save probably $50, or have a real job. Tough choice.

In addition, I reminded him that NO Republican in many years has ‘worked with’ the dems with any degree of success.

I am disappointed in his stupid offer. I thought he was smarter than that.


236 posted on 09/13/2010 2:27:35 PM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: SusaninOhio

I wrote him also, I think he got the message today...from Rush too.

Paul Ryan also said NOT to negotiate down right now, hope he speaks with the leadership.

They are full of bad habits!


237 posted on 09/13/2010 2:30:15 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: roses of sharon

You should never negotiate with terrorists. The Dems certainly fall into that category: they’ve been terrorizing business and taxpayers for decades.


238 posted on 09/13/2010 2:56:02 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: FreeReign

This was a strategic move on whasisname’s part, and I don’t think it should be held against him.


239 posted on 09/13/2010 3:44:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: rabscuttle385; All

I seem to recall that years ago the top brackets paid about 70% of income in taxes. I think the top rate is now down to around 35%. So actually, have the wealthy done so bad over the years?


240 posted on 09/14/2010 12:08:52 AM PDT by gleeaikin (question authority)
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