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Texas: Fee to use plastic bags after ban in Brownsville
http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=509356 ^ | 9-9-2010 | Rafael Carranza

Posted on 09/12/2010 11:01:43 AM PDT by dragnet2

Under new changes to the ban on plastic bags in Brownsville, shoppers will be charged an extra dollar for every transaction in which they use plastic bags after the ban goes into effect.

Starting January 5, the use of plastic bags will be banned inside the Brownsville city limits in effort to go green.

"We want to have a beautiful city,” Commissioner Edward Camarillo said. “We want to make sure that we take care of the environment."

The surcharge would be handed out by the stores.


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Starting January 5, the use of plastic bags will be banned.....

lol....

1 posted on 09/12/2010 11:01:46 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

What a racket...


2 posted on 09/12/2010 11:03:42 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: dragnet2

It may be a good time to sell baskets in Brownsville!


3 posted on 09/12/2010 11:05:09 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: dragnet2

Insanity.


4 posted on 09/12/2010 11:05:43 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: dragnet2

ugh


5 posted on 09/12/2010 11:07:08 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: dragnet2
At the grocery's check out remove each item from its packaging and leave the trash on the belt. Tell them next time you're going to charge them $10.00.

6 posted on 09/12/2010 11:07:09 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: dragnet2

Any word on regular light bulbs? Maybe just a small fine.


7 posted on 09/12/2010 11:08:17 AM PDT by Libloather (Teapublican, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: dragnet2
A local grocery chain got on the “ban the bag” bandwagon about a year ago. A lot of customers refused to use (supposedly “green”) the rip-stop nylon bags. The store started giving the customers the option of using free paper bags. Years ago, paper bags were replaced with plastic bags — because the plastic bags were deemed to be ‘greener’. Now, the store has started giving away packages of a dozen ‘green’ (biodegradable) plastic bags, with every purchase over $50.00. Just in time too, we were running out of doggy bags.
8 posted on 09/12/2010 11:08:22 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: dragnet2
Starting January 5, the use of plastic bags will be banned inside the Brownsville city limits in effort to go green.

Just cut the chase: rename the town Greensville!

9 posted on 09/12/2010 11:09:33 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: dragnet2
""We want to have a beautiful city,” Commissioner Edward Camarillo said."

You keep up this "nanny state" B.S. and you'll end up with a deserted city".

I'd drive 50 miles to the next city to buy groceries before I would give these fools $1 per transaction for the use of plastic bags..

My local grocery here in Georgia stills uses the plastic bags, but they offer for sale those cloth bags. I told them the day they quit furnishing bags - plastic or paper - is the day I shop elsewhere.

The northeast US is a great example of what "nanny-stating" gets you...people moving out in droves.
10 posted on 09/12/2010 11:12:11 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: dragnet2
“We want to make sure that we take care of the environment."

Build a friggin' golden idol to the environment with all the money taken in.

11 posted on 09/12/2010 11:15:05 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: I see my hands

I like your solution!


12 posted on 09/12/2010 11:21:15 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: BradyLS
***Just cut the chase: rename the town Greensville!

Better to name it naziville.....I do use the cloth bags as they hold more and are easier to carry. 99 cents at WalMart. With things like meats that might leak, I have them use plastic bags and then put them in the cloth ones...but its a choice...you get a 5 cent discount for every cloth bag you use, but 1 dollar for plastic bags, I go to another town to shop....

It seem like most people that run for office are little Hitler's....

13 posted on 09/12/2010 11:21:39 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: dragnet2

I found a cloth bag in the store’s parking lot. I use it. Toss it in the wash whenever I do a load. It’s nice to not have to deal with plastic bags anymore. Of course I still use plastic garbage and waste basket bags. It’s not a “green” thing with me. just a bit more convenient.


14 posted on 09/12/2010 11:22:23 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: dragnet2

The citizens should designate 1/12/11 as the beginning of 7 days shopping outside city limits. If that doesn’t work on 1/26 do it for two weeks. The tax is gone by February. The sales tax loss would never be made up.


15 posted on 09/12/2010 11:23:25 AM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: dragnet2

Holy crap....one dollar for every transaction???? Really? That is outragous. They are going to pad their coffers with this rule. I guess I would break down and use those ugly cloth bags for that price. In Europe, it is about 20 euro cents for a plastic bag for the entire bag!!! Not per item. That is much more reasonable.


16 posted on 09/12/2010 11:27:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: dragnet2

Don’t they realize that lots of us take these bags and store them to line wastebaskets with (bathroom, office, etc.)? If I didn’t REUSE the bags for that purpose, I’d have to go out and BUY wastebasket liners!

What do liberal enviro-nazis use in their smaller wastebaskets? The plastic bags are useful for zillions of reasons (bringing vegetables to a friend, putting books in them to drop off a a donation center, you name it). I cannot fathom this kind of lunacy.


17 posted on 09/12/2010 11:27:37 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: dragnet2
..."We want to have a beautiful city,”..

Err. Mr. Mayor, I've been to Brownsville and it is one of the ugliest cities in Texas. Plastic bags won't make a difference.

18 posted on 09/12/2010 11:31:31 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: napscoordinator
They are going to pad their coffers with this rule

That's the idea.

They aren't "environmentalists", they're Communists.

Which is to say they're bullys and thugs, always looking for a cheap extortion gig, since working is beneath them.

19 posted on 09/12/2010 11:32:11 AM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out!! The Americans are On the March!! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: dragnet2
The Downside:

"Four (reusable) bags were tested, and each used three times over a two-week period. One bag was reserved for meat only, another for produce, a third for cans and a fourth bag was not used.

The latter two bags tested negative for coliform, but researchers found the bag used to carry meat was covered in bacteria.

The produce bag had the most contaminants. In it, researchers found 80 organisms of coliform."

... Looks like there will be lawsuits. All those $1 fines collected will have to be saved for the lawyers & for the doctors who'll be treating kids getting sick from contaminated food.

20 posted on 09/12/2010 11:33:30 AM PDT by Tellurian
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To: Paperdoll
It may be a good time to sell baskets in Brownsville!

Why are my groceries in a hand basket, and where are we going?

21 posted on 09/12/2010 11:36:26 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 596 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: dragnet2

That’s ok, I will just scratch Brownsville off the list of cities that I will ever visit.


22 posted on 09/12/2010 11:48:51 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: mnehring

Unless they put them over their heads.


23 posted on 09/12/2010 12:01:32 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: richardtavor

Now that would help Brownsville. They should have a People of Brownsville website like the People of Wal Mart website.


24 posted on 09/12/2010 12:03:18 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: dragnet2

I hope the ICE’s going to have extra lanes open starting the 5th.


25 posted on 09/12/2010 12:10:13 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: goat granny

WM bags are fifty cents where I live

I heard the other day that the cloth bags hold bacteria. Be careful with produce.


26 posted on 09/12/2010 12:11:51 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: dragnet2

Texas?

Bullets flying in Laredo are okay, but plastic bags in Brownsville are a crime?

Texas is on its way to being South California.


27 posted on 09/12/2010 12:14:53 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: napscoordinator
In Europe, it is about 20 euro cents for a plastic bag for the entire bag!!! Not per item. That is much more reasonable.

In my wife's hometown in Ukraine, plastic bags are for sale at the entrance to the large, outdoor markets. They're relatively cheap but needless to say, most shoppers will reuse bags until they're so stretched and torn, they can't be reused any longer.

I see nothing wrong with this. Waste is not a conservative value.

28 posted on 09/12/2010 12:16:16 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: dragnet2

Fill the cart with items and head to the checkout. When told that there is an illegal TAX, leave the cart and walk out of the store. Get enough people doing this and the store will put pressure on the city to rescind the TAX. Maybe.


29 posted on 09/12/2010 12:19:42 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: I see my hands

lol, good idea :)


30 posted on 09/12/2010 12:19:46 PM PDT by meanie monster
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To: Drew68

I see nothing wrong with this. Waste is not a conservative value.


You raise a good questions. Sounds like conservatism is what ever we want it to mean at the moment.

Slowing govt growth, trumps waste...............


31 posted on 09/12/2010 12:24:18 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Drew68
It is part of packaging and the cost is passed along to the customer. The same with the wrapping around meat and the cans and boxes that food come packaged in and the plastic bottles that hold liquids. If you accept all of that, then you are a hypocrite.
32 posted on 09/12/2010 12:26:00 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: dragnet2

Sorry commissioner—Brownsville will NEVER be a beautiful city!


33 posted on 09/12/2010 12:29:55 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: PeterPrinciple
Sounds like conservatism is what ever we want it to mean at the moment.

And on this thread, it's sounding a lot like entitlement.

34 posted on 09/12/2010 12:39:54 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: DPMD
Texas is on its way to being South California.

Yep....Cept our weather is like year round paradise compared to Texas....That's why I'm here and not there....lol

35 posted on 09/12/2010 12:49:57 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Drew68

“I see nothing wrong with this. Waste is not a conservative value.”

By this reasoning, you must think the individual mandate in ObamaCare is also okay. After all, going without health insurance is not a conservative value.

The “value” is being free of government interference and meddling. FREEDOM is the conservative value at issue here.


36 posted on 09/12/2010 12:54:32 PM PDT by olrtex
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FREEDOM is the conservative value at issue here.

You're confusing FREEDOM with FREE. Nobody's taking away your freedom to use plastic bags. Are you entitled to free plastic bags? This seems to be the "conservative value" most expressed on this thread. "Gimme my free bags! Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!"

And how you somehow equated my sentiments with support for Obama Care, I haven't a clue.

37 posted on 09/12/2010 1:05:52 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: dragnet2

If the purpose is reducing the amount of plastic going into the landfills, consider the amount of plastic dumped from industrial shipping and packaging.

Tons of plastic from plastic strapping to pallet shrink wrap are thrown into landfills. Inside the cartons (which are closed with plastic box tape) are products wrapped in plastic or protected with some form of Styrofoam. The total amount of such plastic that goes into landfills would make the shopping bag contribution minuscule.

Then consider the amount of plastic goes into the packaging of the products we purchase. That screwdriver comes in a plastic container. That container of ice cream comes in a container of plasticized cardboard. That box of Wheaties holds a plastic bag for the cereal. And all that plastic is necessary if we are to live in a safe society free of contamination. This is a reality of modern society.

If plastic bags were such a concern, why not just promote the recycling of them. These bags are recyclable. I only wish that more of that plastic were recyclable.

This plastic bag taxation is manipulating ignorant people into a guilt for the realities of modern society. It is a tax for no good reason.


38 posted on 09/12/2010 1:14:04 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Paperdoll
In India they take there discarded platic bags

And make these
Now why can't we train people who are collecting welfare or chronically unemployed who are able bodied to make stuff by recycleling trash. Bet our ex-community now POTUS never thought of that.
39 posted on 09/12/2010 1:16:39 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: dragnet2
Hmm, lets fire up the predict-o-meter.

Citizens with more than three functioning brain cells will sue...

Not the city, but the merchants charged with collecting the fees for not providing brown paper bags not affected by the plastic ban.

More data is coming out about food poisoning being spread by germs on reusable bags. For every case of food poisoning that occurs after the ban in the home of someone using reusable bags, the city will get a lawsuit.

The plastic bag ban will be rescinded in March.

Let's watch and see how I do.

Any other prognosticators?

40 posted on 09/12/2010 1:21:20 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

Austin, Texas is now considering a ban on plastic shopping bags, making it the latest city to debate paper vs. plastic.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/austin-weighs-plastic-bag-ban-sparks-debate/story?id=11334974


41 posted on 09/12/2010 1:23:24 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: LostInBayport

So true.
I prefer brown paper (I line my veggie bins with those).

But with meats the clerks use plastic.

I pass them on to the Poop Thief.
The browns pile up I take them down to the lil Boat/RV food store and they use them use them for customers.

A gal we know just came back from a Cali trip and being home on the range folks here in the PNW were we can/hunt/steward our resources she was shocked at the “psuedeo greenies” down there.

She said they act like they are into good earth stewardship (but don’t have a clue).

It is the “hip” thing to do, so it’s like all for show. Posers.


42 posted on 09/12/2010 1:25:00 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: Founding Father

Hey if they outlaw plastic grocery bags are they going to outlaw the sale of Glad (or any brand) trash can liners/sandwich bags ect..?

I smell Bull Guacomali.
Someone one just came up with another “tax” under the guise of being “green”.


43 posted on 09/12/2010 1:27:56 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: olrtex
By this reasoning, you must think the individual mandate in ObamaCare is also okay. After all, going without health insurance is not a conservative value.

Really? When did cash on the barrel STOP being a conservative value?

44 posted on 09/12/2010 1:28:31 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: richardtavor

I had a Dexter Morgan moment after reading your post.


45 posted on 09/12/2010 1:30:33 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: olrtex

My God how did we ever live in a Free society before plastic bags. /smart alec


46 posted on 09/12/2010 1:33:14 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: dragnet2

First it was, “Don’t use paper. Save the trees. Use plastic.” I remember the first time getting a plastic bag and hating it because it seemed so insubstantial. It took about a week to love them because I could carry in almost all my purchases at one time and the condensation from cold stuff didn’t make the bag rip apart. Screw paper bags.


47 posted on 09/12/2010 1:43:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: I see my hands

What a great idea! Give them a bill for forcing you to have to take all that trash just to get what you came for. Maybe a class action suit?


48 posted on 09/12/2010 1:44:30 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Global2010

What a great idea!


49 posted on 09/12/2010 2:20:23 PM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Paperdoll
Take a koran and use the origami techniques to make a clever little carrying bag.


50 posted on 09/12/2010 2:30:15 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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