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Millennials vs. boomers: You twerps owe us everything
Times Herald Record Middletown, NY ^ | 9/12/10 | Steve Israel

Posted on 09/12/2010 3:44:54 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

Let's get one thing straight, all of you millennials out there.

If it weren't for us baby boomers, most of you wouldn't be here. Literally.

We are your parents. You sprung from our wombs, from our love.

We don't just deserve your respect; we deserve your eternal gratitude — for the food you ate, for the clothes you wore, for the roofs over your heads. By the way, we're still giving food, clothes and roofs to the more than 10 million of you who still live in our homes.

And what have you millennials — the 50 million Americans born between 1980 and 1995 who are becoming adults at the start of this new millennium — given us?

Nada — except the smug expectation that we should give you more.

Let's start with culture — like the music you listen to, on the gizmos we boomers invented.

Not only are Bruce Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, James Taylor, U2 and the late Michael Jackson bona fide, card carrying boomers born between 1946 and 1964. The music we boomers grew up on — the Beatles, the Stones, Dylan, Hendrix, Motown and James Brown — is the music you listen to now, because you hardly have any of your own.

Unless, of course, you count Lady Gaga.

We gave you technology like cell phones.

And did you ever hear of this little invention called the Internet?

Yup. Boomers (not including Al Gore) gave you that, too


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Here's the other side of this age-old argument. I would add that the roots of the internet, i-Pods, MP3's Wii's etc can be traced back to guys like Babbage, Burroughs, Edison, etc. When you think about it, the Morse code was THE original binary code.
1 posted on 09/12/2010 3:44:54 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

And now the boomers want payment in the form of the income of the millennials and the children of the millennials, for their comfortable retirement, healthcare and medications.

I’m tired of this crap. The “Greatest Generation” screwed us all.


2 posted on 09/12/2010 3:49:44 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Impala64ssa

...And we’re going to pick your nursing homes.

Need I say more?


3 posted on 09/12/2010 3:53:20 PM PDT by Julia H. (This tagline for rent--Only $999.99/month!)
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To: Impala64ssa

Boomers, to a large extent, did not raise their kids.

If they had kids at all, they largely left them with a key to get in the door after school. If one of the kids was older, then that one was in charge.

If you give birth to kids but then give them no time aside from feeding them and summer vacations, it comes as no surprise that they don’t really think of you when they are grown

Like in every other culture throughout time, the elderly are in the care of those who know love them. If nobody but other old people know or love you, you wind up in a dingy nursing home in your last years, and nobody cares. It is generally too late at that point, to do anything other than regret your course.


4 posted on 09/12/2010 3:53:44 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Boomers destroyed this country.


5 posted on 09/12/2010 3:53:44 PM PDT by WackySam (To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead.)
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To: netmilsmom
"I’m tired of this crap. The “Greatest Generation” screwed us all."

Quit yer bitchen and get back to work!

6 posted on 09/12/2010 4:28:38 PM PDT by An Old Man
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To: Impala64ssa

The Boomers and Millenials deserve each other.


7 posted on 09/12/2010 4:30:51 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Impala64ssa

Hey: SHOVE IT! I am a Mellenial, and I am not at war with Baby Boomers, Gen X or anyone else (and didn’t vote for Obama)!! Let’s loose this age warfare thing, huh?


8 posted on 09/12/2010 4:33:49 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Battle Ground Vermont..if we make Leahy a toss-up then all Dems are in trouble..)
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To: Impala64ssa

I bet there was some hot morse’ing going on back in the day.

Course, they probably also had Nigerians morsing them on how to get into some hot gold mine.


9 posted on 09/12/2010 4:38:02 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: WackySam
"Boomers destroyed this country."

Sure they did. Too bad your Dad didn't relieve himself on a flat rock.

Then we'd have one less sniveling crybaby here on FreeRepublic.

10 posted on 09/12/2010 4:38:02 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: sfg-18b

Boomers did us no favors.


12 posted on 09/12/2010 4:48:06 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: Impala64ssa
Now I understand why my mother hated the cries of a "generation gap" when I was a kid growing up in the 60's. Yes, I'm on the tail end of the "boomer" generation but my now 30-ish daughter grew up learning from ME. She loved (and still loves) most of my music, movies and TV shows. Her politics are a lot more tolerant than mine but still mostly conservative. She loves Rush AND she loves Lady Gaga. She relates very well to my generation and to the generation behind hers as well as her own.

We can't marginalize someone just because of their age. THAT is unforgivable.

Lighten up and let's start talking about bringing generations together instead of drawing lines in the sand.

America needs all the support She can get, because America is staring at her demise.

13 posted on 09/12/2010 4:51:20 PM PDT by LiberConservative (FUBO)
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To: WackySam

Oh, really? I’m thinking of the “greatest generation” and THEIR parents who kept voting FDR in as Emperor. That’s what started our decline.


14 posted on 09/12/2010 5:01:01 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Alexander Pope said "hope springs eternal." That's ALL it does.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Damn “boomers” owe the “millenials” big for destroying their Constitutional freedoms and the American economy. If only the millenials were educated enough to know it. Of course, the boomers educated the millenials so that’s their fault to. Luckily a lot of the millenials are battle hardened so maybe they’ll be tough enough to make changes after the hippies and self-centered narcissists of the boomer generation die off.


15 posted on 09/12/2010 5:05:50 PM PDT by November 2010
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To: Impala64ssa

Baby Boomers: The do as I say not as I do generation.

The USA is falling apart because a large percentage (though not all) of the boomer generation chose to follow the liberal-left.


16 posted on 09/12/2010 5:06:51 PM PDT by Aglooka (Posting from New Hampshachusetts (Formerly New Hampshire))
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To: Fudd Fan

Then you have our own kids, 18-25, who played by the rules and can’t make any more money working than entitlement people lazing around.

They see this. They’ll understand the net effects of socialism better than any generation we have ever produced.

And they’ll do something about it, eventually.


17 posted on 09/12/2010 5:07:31 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Aglooka

“(though not all)”

50.000 died in Nam.......

Not all Boomers, but all of them in service to their country.


18 posted on 09/12/2010 5:14:41 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: netmilsmom

Wrong. We are the largest, highest, longest paying taxpayers in the nation. We’ve paid into SS since we virtually first started to work. We paid for our Grandparents, we paid for our Parents and we paid enough to PAY FOR OURSELVES and then some.

Save your ire for the politicians WHO STOLE OUR MONEY!


19 posted on 09/12/2010 5:18:54 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Don't make me use uppercase.)
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To: stilloftyhenight

>>We are the largest, highest, longest paying taxpayers in the nation<<

And who caused that?
The greatest generation. What have we done to over come the crap they passed us? Nothing.

My ire is with the boomers who bitch while they vote to happily extend the crap handed to us by our parents. Then hold tight to the goodies while taking from the next generation and their children. All the while moaning how tough we have it. WE continue what our parents started.

I was born in 1961 and I’m sickened by my generation.


20 posted on 09/12/2010 5:41:36 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: MrEdd

Spot on.


21 posted on 09/12/2010 5:42:22 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: randog

Amen! I am between the two groups, late 60s birth. I saw the malaise and embarrassment of Carter and the greatness of the Reagan years. The country I knew is gone...


22 posted on 09/12/2010 5:43:19 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: Impala64ssa
Well, as someone on the trailing edge of the boomer generation...someone stole the money I set aside for retirement. Upon further review it turns out it was politicians buying the votes of the uniformed younger generation and various unions. So now you're going to blame me for being the victim of theft? Go bite yourself.
23 posted on 09/12/2010 5:43:23 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: Aglooka
1. Reagan received the biggest share of his vote from the boomers (ie they gave a bigger % of their vote to Reagan than any other age bracket).

2. The millenials are the only age group to give a majority of their votes to Obama.

24 posted on 09/12/2010 5:45:19 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: WackySam

>>Boomers destroyed this country.<<

Bull. Boomers were only a part.
“The Great Society” started long before their birth.
LBJ and his crap was before most could vote.

Want to blame someone, look to “The Greatest Generation”. Watch them on “Senior Day” in any store in the country. They are the privileged who demand all. Think AARP.

The boomers didn’t bother to improve any of it and thought only of themselves. Now look were we are. This generation, the “South Park” conservatives are our only hope.


25 posted on 09/12/2010 5:45:53 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Aglooka
1. Reagan received the biggest share of his vote from the boomers (ie they gave a bigger % of their vote to Reagan than any other age bracket).

2. The millenials are the only age group to give a majority of their votes to Obama.

3. More boomers carried a rifle in service to their country than protested.

26 posted on 09/12/2010 5:45:57 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: JSDude1
Let’s loose this age warfare thing

Ditto!

I'm a 1964 person. Some say I'm a "Boomer", and some say I'm from the next generation (X?).

I don't really identify with either. I'm me, and I'm a conservative.

27 posted on 09/12/2010 5:46:22 PM PDT by SteamShovel (UTOPIA...Isn't)
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To: Impala64ssa

I understand the interest in intergenerational bragging matches. But they are folly, nonetheless.

Why? Each generation encounters it’s own time, and two times can not be fairly compared. Appreciate the burdens and successes both.


28 posted on 09/12/2010 5:50:02 PM PDT by bvw
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To: SteamShovel

>>I don’t really identify with either. I’m me, and I’m a conservative<<

Me too. 1961. I don’t relate at all to the “If it feels good, do it” of the boomers. I’ve always been into the family values that the boomers didn’t bother to teach their offspring. I find myself parenting my nieces and nephews and they are now all conservatives.

I don’t fit and I don’t want to be compartmentalized.


29 posted on 09/12/2010 5:51:40 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom

I’ve got 20 years to go until retirement, and if you cannot claim to have your name in space I say shut yer damn yapper.


30 posted on 09/12/2010 5:53:22 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

I have a star named after me. ;)


31 posted on 09/12/2010 5:55:15 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom

What a wonderful present. :^) (You all are a bunch of nuts)


32 posted on 09/12/2010 5:56:59 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

>>(You all are a bunch of nuts)<<

We boomers? I was born in 1961


33 posted on 09/12/2010 5:58:40 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom

Oh Lord, I didn’t know you were that old..... :^)


34 posted on 09/12/2010 6:00:07 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: sarge83; Rca2000
Amen! I am between the two groups, late 60s birth. I saw the malaise and embarrassment of Carter and the greatness of the Reagan years. The country I knew is gone...

There is a niche generation between the Boomers and X'ers called "Generation Jones." Many say they were born between 1954 to 1965, but I'd extend the latter a little bit, I was born in 1966, not much of a boomer but I don't quite fit in with the X'ers either. Basically the term comes from where when we were kids, like the Boomers, we were going to have it all but things started to go bust as we get older so the story is that "we are really 'jonesin' for what the Boomers had. "Jonesin'" is a strong desire for something like, "I'm jonesin for a cigarette" but also came from "keeping up with the Joneses." Jonesers tend to be cynical and distrustful of government. I guess the best way to see if you are part of Generation Jones is if you remember the Moon landings and TV being mostly black and white yet in your teen or early adult years, you started to use the first computers that came out for the home.

Oh yeah, I share your grief, the country I knew is mostly gone, heck, I often say to the point of cliche, "I miss the 1980's, it was the last time things really made sense."
35 posted on 09/12/2010 6:00:24 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nowhere Man

1948 and 1964


36 posted on 09/12/2010 6:02:32 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

I’m old and cranky. My kids say “Matronly”

But I’m a conservative so I keep it to myself. ;)


37 posted on 09/12/2010 6:03:55 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Nowhere Man

That’s me!


38 posted on 09/12/2010 6:05:21 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom

I was just teasing. :^) you are a fantastic FReeper!


39 posted on 09/12/2010 6:08:30 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: netmilsmom

Don’t be. We’re now the very people who are out there via Tea Parties, activism etc. trying to right the wrongs done to our citizens by politicians since the ink was barely dry on the Constitution. Chin up!


40 posted on 09/12/2010 6:16:28 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Don't make me use uppercase.)
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To: eyedigress

Well, golly.
Thanks!!!


41 posted on 09/12/2010 6:22:21 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: stilloftyhenight

Thank you.
I’m proud of those of us who are fighting for the kids and grandkids.

I look at my poor nephew, working two jobs to support his four kids (including my namesake) and want to slap his lib boomer mother.


42 posted on 09/12/2010 6:24:51 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Impala64ssa

On the other hand, there is no greater feeling in the world than to have your child, out of the blue, thank you for how well your raised them, as my daughter born in 1978 recently did. It brought a tear to my eye.


43 posted on 09/12/2010 7:03:57 PM PDT by rwa265 (Christ my Cornerstone)
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To: netmilsmom
I love my Boomer mom, my in-laws and my aunts and uncles dearly. Many of them fell into the social traps of the 70's and almost everyone in my family is from a broken home.

We traveled through life's disappointments and difficulties with our parents and we feel a lot of love and compassion for them even while we're rolling our eyes.

But I did have an argument with my mom a couple of months ago that does show where the front-lines of the generational war will be fought and it's Social Security.

My mom went off on how she paid into it for years and it is money owed to her. I told her that my husband pays in $500 a month and we'll *never* see a dime of that money if the Boomers don't take some sort of hit. (Like not getting the money if one already receives a retirement or raising the age to 70, like it already is set for many of us Xers.)

She brought up the "trust fund" and again said that it's "my money!" I had to explain to her that the fund was empty. That politicians had drained it years ago. That my husband and I were already paying for *her* Social Security right NOW. That there was nothing else left.

She got quiet for a bit then told me that she was promised that money and she was damn well taking it. I told her that that promise was a LIE. I asked her why my generation was expected to accept that we were lied to, but her's wasn't.

Finally I concluded with the statement that *everyone* will have to take a hit over the next few years. Seniors, government workers, welfare moms - everyone on the gov't dole. It has to stop or there will not be an America for her grandchildren.

And so the argument goes.

Most Boomers that I've talked to about this mess are bothered, but not bothered enough to do something about it. Not bothered enough to not take the money. And definitely not bothered enough to vote for a politician who promises to mess with their precious gov't check.

This stupid program is going to be the death of our county in many ways. It's ripping us apart economically and ripping apart the generations like nothing else ever could. I'm terrified that the economic pressures *will* bring out the animal in the younger generations and that the solution for an unwanted child since Roe will be applied to an unwanted grandmother very soon.

And no, I don't blame the Boomers for starting this mess. The whole party began with the generation before. With that said, generational warfare gets us nowhere. We're all going to have to act like adults now.

44 posted on 09/12/2010 7:47:14 PM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: netmilsmom
The “Greatest Generation” screwed us all.

Agreed.

45 posted on 09/12/2010 7:48:31 PM PDT by GVnana (I'm a Mama Grizzly)
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To: Marie

>>. With that said, generational warfare gets us nowhere. We’re all going to have to act like adults now. <<

I fully agree with you.

Personally I’ll be saying “Welcome to Walmart” before my kids have to pay for me. I plan on a nice 10% discount for that Mighty Dog I’ll be munching on.


46 posted on 09/12/2010 7:51:11 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom

>>>>This generation, the “South Park” conservatives are our only hope.

We are screwed.


47 posted on 09/12/2010 7:55:45 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (TV News is an oxymoron. MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: netmilsmom

You sound like my husband! lol!

I told my kids that they were going to have to work *very* hard and stay out of financial trouble. “If you make us bail you out when you’re young, then we’re moving in with *you* when we’re old!”

They’re both hustling! ;-)

Seriously, the kids are growing up and will be on their own soon. Hubby and I figure that we’ll need about twenty more years to work and save for *us* before we’re “safe” in our old age. (And you can forget about the retirement home! Our dream house will be one story and handicap accessible!)


48 posted on 09/12/2010 8:08:47 PM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: Impala64ssa

DON’T TRUST ANYONE OVER 30. An old slogan that needs new life.


49 posted on 09/12/2010 8:17:57 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: Rytwyng
DON’T TRUST ANYONE OVER 30. An old slogan that needs new life.

Hardly. We have race wars, class envy and now "generational" warfare is being stoked. How about we stick to Conservatives against liberal loons instead of letting them divide us.

50 posted on 09/12/2010 8:31:20 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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